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Dammit Jim! #8715392 03/25/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky Between you, Sharpsguy, Gunner, Woody and now Ed, I didn't have a chance. The auction ended today, and hopefully I'll have it in my hands soon. I was shocked to see a Montana Roughrider chambered for 45-70, and with a 30 inch barrel, show up on Gunbroker. I was torn between this and an 1874 Military Rifle. This one showed up first and the price was reasonable. "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8715396 03/25/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8715400 03/25/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8715818 03/25/14 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,840 Western N.Y. D dvdegeorge Campfire Ranger dvdegeorge Campfire Ranger D Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,840 Western N.Y. That's a beauty Joel! Hope you bring it to the hog hunt so I can touch it! My dog is a member of the "Turd Like Clan" Covert Trail Cameras are JUNK 3 Time Dinkathon Champion #DinkGOAT

Re: Dammit Jim! dvdegeorge #8715824 03/25/14 Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 4ager Campfire Ranger 4ager Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 That's just a quick chamber punch away from some real horsepower. You know you want to do it� Originally Posted by Mannlicher America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.

Re: Dammit Jim! dvdegeorge #8715831 03/25/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky Thanks Dan. If I live, it'll make it to the Hunt in 2015. You are more than willing to shoot hell out of it. "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! 4ager #8715836 03/25/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky Originally Posted by 4ager That's just a quick chamber punch away from some real horsepower. You know you want to do it� Oh Lord. It is not enough that Jim and Bill have nudged me closer to bankruptcy? Must you see my retinas detach? LOL "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8715851 03/25/14 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska Another one bites the dust! VERY NICE Joel you're gonna love it!! You better be afraid of a ghost!! "Woody you were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops Woody

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8715883 03/25/14 Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 4ager Campfire Ranger 4ager Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 Originally Posted by CrimsonTide Originally Posted by 4ager That's just a quick chamber punch away from some real horsepower. You know you want to do it� Oh Lord. It is not enough that Jim and Bill have nudged me closer to bankruptcy? Must you see my retinas detach? LOL The .45-90 and .45-110 are not heavy recoilers at all; just big pushes. Your retinas will be quite fine. Originally Posted by Mannlicher America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.

Re: Dammit Jim! 4ager #8715916 03/25/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky I know it, but have to have something to bitch and whine about. "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8715953 03/25/14 Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 4ager Campfire Ranger 4ager Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 Originally Posted by CrimsonTide I know it, but have to have something to bitch and whine about. Quit bitching, get a 'smith lined up to punch that chamber to -90 or -110, and order a 1/4 pallet of powder. Originally Posted by Mannlicher America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.

Re: Dammit Jim! 4ager #8716009 03/25/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky As an old friend of mine used to say quite often, "Therein, lies the problem". If I lived where I could drive by and pick up a sheetpot of KiK powder, I'd be leaning harder in that direction. Last edited by CrimsonTide; 03/25/14. "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8716044 03/25/14 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska I've gone through almost #20 of KIK since I got my gun Jim always said "ya load 110's with a coal shovel." That's a fact at 95+100grs a pop! You better be afraid of a ghost!! "Woody you were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops Woody

Re: Dammit Jim! FlyboyFlem #8716064 03/25/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky Prezactly! Thank God, Sharpsguy was the voice of reason saying that the standard 45/70 would do anything that needed doing. Basically, I will be shooting Whitetails, maybe black bear if all goes well and pigs with this rifle. Surely the 45/70 will handle it. If I were running up against real buffler or African game, I'd look harder at the -90 or -110. "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8716069 03/25/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky I already have a teenager I can barely afford to feed. Don't need a rifle that makes matters worse. "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8716112 03/25/14 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska The 45/70 will serve you well and gunner has a way of making it the little engine that could! You better be afraid of a ghost!! "Woody you were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops Woody

Re: Dammit Jim! FlyboyFlem #8716141 03/25/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky Now I'll be looking to pick up a couple lyman molds. "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8716395 03/25/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY EvilTwin Campfire Ranger EvilTwin Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY VELCOMM to der Darkside Powder Inc will ship a case right to yer door so not to worry about availability NOW the Buffler Gun Mafia will work on you to get ya using paper patched slugs Gorgeous rifle Joel!!!! Yer going to love it!! Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8716510 03/25/14 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma BWAAHAHAHA!!!!! I knew you was screwed. LMAO, a Big Congrats from Okleehoma Joel. Gunner Trump Won!

Re: Dammit Jim! FlyboyFlem #8716527 03/25/14 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma Originally Posted by FlyboyFlem The 45/70 will serve you well and gunner has a way of making it the little engine that could! Yes it will, and yes I can. Gunner Trump Won!

Re: Dammit Jim! EvilTwin #8716534 03/25/14 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma Ya, and now he's gotta sign on to the buffler hunt this fall. Gunner Trump Won!

Re: Dammit Jim! gunner500 #8716578 03/25/14 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! nice rifle Between all of us, next March, the guides will hear a number of deep throated BOOMS and wonder what the heck is going on up that hill "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Dammit Jim! tex_n_cal #8716605 03/25/14 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma You may as well saddle up and ride on out with us Tex. Gunner Trump Won!

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8716616 03/25/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 19,822 Alaska/Texas A APDDSN0864 Campfire Ranger APDDSN0864 Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 19,822 Alaska/Texas Outstanding, Joel! Good looking rifle! Now you need the following molds to begin; a Lyman 457125 (the Government bullet) and at least the 457121, the 475gr Parker Hale bullet. Maybe a 457193, the 405gr RNFP that was loaded in the Cavalry loads. Oh, you can be sure that Jim will start in on you to start paper patching, too. P.S. don't let them know you EVER shoot a smokeless powder load in your rifle. Jim WILL hunt you down. Ed "Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell

Re: Dammit Jim! APDDSN0864 #8716652 03/25/14 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma .........then Sharpsguy will show up with a twelve pack of Handmade Damascus fillet knives. Gunner Trump Won!

Re: Dammit Jim! gunner500 #8716729 03/25/14 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! Originally Posted by gunner500 You may as well saddle up and ride on out with us Tex. Gunner what sort of adventure do you miscreants have planned? I oughta have my Sharps late this spring or early summer. I was gonna smoke a deer with it, but now you have me intrigued... "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8716733 03/25/14 Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,275 wyoming Ranch13 Campfire Tracker Ranch13 Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,275 wyoming Originally Posted by CrimsonTide Now I'll be looking to pick up a couple lyman molds. No if you want that thing to shoot you'll be getting a saeco 645 if you plan on shooting grease groove bullets. Remington cases. the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8716829 03/25/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 29,839 Burns/Hines, Oregon, USA 1minute Campfire Ranger 1minute Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 29,839 Burns/Hines, Oregon, USA Now you've done it. One can tweak loads, bullets, and technique until the end of time. No one ever really masters those things. 1Minute

Re: Dammit Jim! APDDSN0864 #8716950 03/26/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY EvilTwin Campfire Ranger EvilTwin Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY Originally Posted by APDDSN0864 Outstanding, Joel! Good looking rifle! Now you need the following molds to begin; a Lyman 457125 (the Government bullet) and at least the 457121, the 475gr Parker Hale bullet. Maybe a 457193, the 405gr RNFP that was loaded in the Cavalry loads. Oh, you can be sure that Jim will start in on you to start paper patching, too. P.S. don't let them know you EVER shoot a smokeless powder load in your rifle. The Sharps Buffler Gun Mafia WILL hunt you down,put you nekkid into a small very cold room wid only Nancy Pelosi to keep you warm Ed THAT'S more like it Last edited by EvilTwin; 03/26/14. Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!

Re: Dammit Jim! EvilTwin #8717074 03/26/14 Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,958 SD M Magnum_Man Campfire Regular Magnum_Man Campfire Regular M Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,958 SD ET hit it. Powder Inc, FFg Kik to your door $347.50 delivered /25#. Only other options as I see it is Olde Einsford at about $500 /25. The others are 3rd choice powders, no need to lengthen your learning curve using them unless somebody dumps them on you for $5 a can. Sharpsguy, gave you good advice leave it alone as a 2.1 especially so with that buttstock and drop combo. Longer brass is 2 to 3 x the cost and has spotty availability right now. Shoot and use as is instead of just talking the talk. Magnum Man

Re: Dammit Jim! tex_n_cal #8717117 03/26/14 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma Originally Posted by tex_n_cal Originally Posted by gunner500 You may as well saddle up and ride on out with us Tex. Gunner what sort of adventure do you miscreants have planned? I oughta have my Sharps late this spring or early summer. I was gonna smoke a deer with it, but now you have me intrigued... Thats good news Tex, by saddling up I meant get 'you' a Sharps, but it seems like your already ahead of the game, I didnt know you had one on order. Gunner Trump Won!

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8717460 03/26/14 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ We just recently had a really good discussion about this "Chamber Stretching" bit, and how many perfectly good .45-70s have been SCREWED up, in that process. The .38-55s hogged out to .38-50 were a similar parade of bodged work. Leave that chamber alone. GTC Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: Dammit Jim! crossfireoops #8717486 03/26/14 Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,867 S sharpsguy Campfire Regular sharpsguy Campfire Regular S Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,867 That rifle will flat out work as is. Leave the damned chamber alone and call me.

Re: Dammit Jim! sharpsguy #8717872 03/26/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY EvilTwin Campfire Ranger EvilTwin Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY C'mon Bill. Give us some time to torment Joel in our finest tradition!! Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!

Re: Dammit Jim! sharpsguy #8718107 03/26/14 Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,635 P Paul39 Campfire Outfitter Paul39 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,635 Originally Posted by sharpsguy That rifle will flat out work as is. Leave the damned chamber alone and call me. A big "Amen" to that! Paul Stupidity has its way, while its cousin, evil, runs rampant.

Re: Dammit Jim! Paul39 #8718131 03/26/14 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! There is also a .50-90 on GB, if CT decides a .45-70 isn't big enough for him My #1 Sporter went into production last week, so hopefully I should have it in a few weeks. .45-90, 30" std octagon, and extra-fancy wood just cuz I'm a wood slut "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8718183 03/26/14 Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,275 wyoming Ranch13 Campfire Tracker Ranch13 Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,275 wyoming Originally Posted by CrimsonTide As an old friend of mine used to say quite often, "Therein, lies the problem". If I lived where I could drive by and pick up a sheetpot of KiK powder, I'd be leaning harder in that direction. Just go here thru the internet, save the wear and tear on your vehicle. http://www.powderinc.com/catalog/order.htm the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com

Re: Dammit Jim! Ranch13 #8718252 03/26/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 19,822 Alaska/Texas A APDDSN0864 Campfire Ranger APDDSN0864 Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 19,822 Alaska/Texas Originally Posted by Ranch13 Originally Posted by CrimsonTide As an old friend of mine used to say quite often, "Therein, lies the problem". If I lived where I could drive by and pick up a sheetpot of KiK powder, I'd be leaning harder in that direction. Just go here thru the internet, save the wear and tear on your vehicle. http://www.powderinc.com/catalog/order.htm Or, he could just make a slight detour on his way out here and pick up a load. Ed "Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell

Re: Dammit Jim! APDDSN0864 #8718277 03/26/14 Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,275 wyoming Ranch13 Campfire Tracker Ranch13 Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,275 wyoming That's true, then he could pick up a 25 lb bag or 2 of powder and it'ld be cheaper yet,, altho when you pickup from Jerry you pay Arkansas sales tax, so there goes any savings on shipping... the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com

Re: Dammit Jim! Ranch13 #8718657 03/26/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 19,822 Alaska/Texas A APDDSN0864 Campfire Ranger APDDSN0864 Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 19,822 Alaska/Texas Last time through I picked up 10# and even with sales tax it was cheaper than shipping it. Gotta go back up in that part of the world in a month or so on bidness. Might have to stop in again. Ed "Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell

Re: Dammit Jim! tex_n_cal #8718747 03/26/14 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,840 Western N.Y. D dvdegeorge Campfire Ranger dvdegeorge Campfire Ranger D Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,840 Western N.Y. Originally Posted by tex_n_cal There is also a .50-90 on GB, if CT decides a .45-70 isn't big enough for him My #1 Sporter went into production last week, so hopefully I should have it in a few weeks. .45-90, 30" std octagon, and extra-fancy wood just cuz I'm a wood slut That sounds nice Patrick! My dog is a member of the "Turd Like Clan" Covert Trail Cameras are JUNK 3 Time Dinkathon Champion #DinkGOAT

Re: Dammit Jim! dvdegeorge #8719586 03/26/14 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! Thanks - it's been on order 18 months, so I am looking forward to it... maybe I can choot the first Nilgai ever shot with a Sharps? Last edited by tex_n_cal; 03/26/14. Reason: fixt it "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Dammit Jim! tex_n_cal #8744148 04/03/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky Finally got her in my hot little hands. Many thanks to the enablers who got me hooked!!! "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8744159 04/03/14 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky That will make a good hunting rifle... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Dammit Jim! ingwe #8744200 04/03/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky I gotta get some cartridges loaded....This weather will have the groundhogs out and about in a few days. I doubt a 500 grain Govt. cast bullet will bounce off... "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8744233 04/03/14 Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,867 S sharpsguy Campfire Regular sharpsguy Campfire Regular S Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,867 That is a proper rifle. That'll work!

Re: Dammit Jim! sharpsguy #8744283 04/03/14 Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana rattler Campfire Ranger rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana between my brother and i one of my favorite rifles for ground squirrels is my Marlin Guide Gun in 45-70.....first shot at one i had 405 hard casts loaded and held on dirt....the bullet went through 6 inches or so of fluffed up dirt on the near side, couple inches of gopher, another 6 inches of fluffed up dirt on the far side, put a 5 foot divot in the ground, hit a chunk of sandstone and cracked it but finally stopped it.....we had been shooting the critters for high talley and upon seeing the damage promptly declared me a cheater and he will get to shoot it for the rest of the trip and i was stuck with the 10-22 A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

Re: Dammit Jim! rattler #8744447 04/03/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky The 45-70 on ground squirrels is roughly equivalent to the Paris Gun of WWI. "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8744596 04/03/14 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska Congrats Joel that's a beauty and welcome to the club! You better be afraid of a ghost!! "Woody you were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops Woody

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8744731 04/03/14 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! Originally Posted by CrimsonTide Finally got her in my hot little hands. Many thanks to the enablers who got me hooked!!! Nice rifle! "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Dammit Jim! tex_n_cal #8744937 04/03/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky Woody and Patrick, Thanks a bunch. I have pawed the poor thing to death today. Really looking forward to giving it a test drive. Apologies for the poor photo, it was the best I could do with my phone today. "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8745505 04/03/14 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 213 The North Coast R1150R Campfire Member R1150R Campfire Member Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 213 The North Coast Originally Posted by CrimsonTide Finally got her in my hot little hands. Many thanks to the enablers who got me hooked!!! Very nice buddy

Re: Dammit Jim! R1150R #8745728 04/03/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY EvilTwin Campfire Ranger EvilTwin Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAA!! yer one of US now!!. You are now entitled to be and do evil things to NON Sharps people until the see the Dark Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8745804 04/03/14 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,233 Arkansas Otter Campfire Tracker Otter Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,233 Arkansas Looks really nice, congrats and . . . welcome to the dark side ! ! ! When ya gonna get to take her out for a test drive? One more question though . . . What's that funny lookin thang what's hangin down between the buttplate and the triggers ? Someday I hope to be the person my dogs think I am . . . The only true cost of having a dog is its death. Someone once said "a nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves." Shiloh Sharps . . . there is no substitute. NRA Endowment Member

Re: Dammit Jim! Otter #8746916 04/04/14 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida Oh your poor, wretched and soon to be tormented soul! A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Dammit Jim! jorgeI #8747067 04/04/14 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska Originally Posted by jorgeI Oh your poor, wretched and soon to be tormented soul! Oh yeah jorge .....and BTW Joel not many plausible excuses for shooting smokeless or you'll get the evil eye from his "Evilness" ! You better be afraid of a ghost!! "Woody you were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops Woody

Re: Dammit Jim! ingwe #8747474 04/04/14 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,840 Western N.Y. D dvdegeorge Campfire Ranger dvdegeorge Campfire Ranger D Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,840 Western N.Y. Nice Joel! My dog is a member of the "Turd Like Clan" Covert Trail Cameras are JUNK 3 Time Dinkathon Champion #DinkGOAT

Re: Dammit Jim! dvdegeorge #8747479 04/04/14 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,840 Western N.Y. D dvdegeorge Campfire Ranger dvdegeorge Campfire Ranger D Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,840 Western N.Y. Seems to me 45/70 screams smokeless! Why dirty and foul it with nasty black powder! I'm sure you'll get better accuracy and velocity with smokeless Joel My dog is a member of the "Turd Like Clan" Covert Trail Cameras are JUNK 3 Time Dinkathon Champion #DinkGOAT

Re: Dammit Jim! dvdegeorge #8747595 04/04/14 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska Originally Posted by dvdegeorge Seems to me 45/70 screams smokeless! Negatory.. Maybe out of a Guide gun but not a Sharps or the ODG {Old dead guys}will haunt him for sure! You better be afraid of a ghost!! "Woody you were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops Woody

Re: Dammit Jim! FlyboyFlem #8747695 04/04/14 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 383 K Kurt71 Campfire Member Kurt71 Campfire Member K Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 383 The day smokeless powder will shoot as well as the black powder load did in this .44-90 bn using barrel sights at 135 yards. 4 shots in the top group 6 shots in the center In this .44-100 Rem st I used a scope for load developement @ 135 yds. Or this .44-90BN with the scope mounted on it @ 200 yds target from left to right has 10 shots, 18 shots and 10 shots I might consider using smokeless, but only if I cant get black powder anymore

Re: Dammit Jim! Kurt71 #8747791 04/04/14 Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,958 SD M Magnum_Man Campfire Regular Magnum_Man Campfire Regular M Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,958 SD dvdgeo, only a dick shoots smokeless in a Shiloh Sharps 45-70, yeah you heard that from me.

Re: Dammit Jim! Magnum_Man #8747918 04/04/14 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma A hearty CONGRATS CT, you'll be rubbing the blue offa the barrel flats in no time from all the heavy fondling, I know, I did. LOL Gunner Trump Won!

Re: Dammit Jim! dvdegeorge #8749188 04/05/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY EvilTwin Campfire Ranger EvilTwin Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY Originally Posted by dvdegeorge Seems to me 45/70 screams smokeless! Why dirty and foul it with nasty black powder! I'm sure you'll get better accuracy and velocity with smokeless Joel If you owned a Sharps and did that, the Buffler Gun hit squad would abduct you, and you would be put into a very small,very cold room nekkid with only Nancy Peolosi to keep you warm Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!

Re: Dammit Jim! EvilTwin #8749224 04/05/14 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,840 Western N.Y. D dvdegeorge Campfire Ranger dvdegeorge Campfire Ranger D Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,840 Western N.Y. Awww you guys are so easy to rile up ...I know the rules ET's been very emphatic about "NO SMOKELESS IN A SHARPS" I get it! My dog is a member of the "Turd Like Clan" Covert Trail Cameras are JUNK 3 Time Dinkathon Champion #DinkGOAT

Re: Dammit Jim! dvdegeorge #8749248 04/05/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY EvilTwin Campfire Ranger EvilTwin Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY The absolute ONLY dispensation is IF it is absolutely necessary to shoot up ONE box of factory ammo to get the cases for BP loading!! THEN eventually ya get one of these for sleeping and seduction purposes Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!

Re: Dammit Jim! EvilTwin #8749961 04/05/14 Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,867 S sharpsguy Campfire Regular sharpsguy Campfire Regular S Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,867 Not even one box. Pull the bullets and dump the powder to get the cases, OR shoot them out of another rifle. Out of a Shiloh Sharps, never.

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8768106 04/10/14 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,800 The U.P.'s U.P. BullShooter Campfire Regular BullShooter Campfire Regular Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,800 The U.P.'s U.P. Originally Posted by BullShooter on Hog Hunt Thread -02/28/14 Here's one from last year of ET, Gunner & sharpsguy. It's sort of fuzzy and blurry 'cause it was the morning after. Note to newbies: Stay away from these individuals. When they start talking about "Shiloh", it ain't about April 1862. It's about making your Credit Card start to whimper and curl up in a fetal position. --Bob . Joel- I tried to warn you. I even posted a photo - (with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back.) But would you listen?? NOOOOOOOO! You hang around with those miscreants and it's going to cost you! Nobody warned me about them in 2013. I got my rifle just a week before snow shut down the local range, so I've only put 15 shots through it. There are still 3-1/2 feet of snow in the range driveway, and if I did snowshoe in, the snow is still covering the benches. The photo below is from a muzzleloader match from last Saturday at another local range. Have fun in the sun! --Bob .

Re: Dammit Jim! Otter #8771846 04/12/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky Dangit! I know.... Just had to be an individual. "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! BullShooter #8771854 04/12/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky You called it, for sure. By the way, you ended up with a gorgeous Sharps yourself. When I get done knocking the wild onions down in my yard, I'm going to spend some time rubbing my rifle down.... Muhahaha "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Dammit Jim! CrimsonTide #8771943 04/12/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 19,822 Alaska/Texas A APDDSN0864 Campfire Ranger APDDSN0864 Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 19,822 Alaska/Texas Joel, have you started casting for it yet? Ed "Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell

Re: Dammit Jim! APDDSN0864 #8772246 04/12/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide OP Campfire Ranger OP CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky No I haven't. Kicking around trying some of Jerry Dean's 480 grain FP's to see how they run. I have to make a powder order and get a few items put together like a drop tube and a compression die as well. Now that I have the stuff that required the FFL, I can piecemeal in the other stuff. "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis