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In my experience th Oregon kimbers were hit or miss on accuracy. My NY kimbers have all been very good shooters. In fairness to the annie I haven't shot it much yet.
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The cooper and kimbers feel very much alike, the Anschutz 54 sporter is a whole different breed. I am assuming that you are saying that the Anschutz is better. I have owned the kimber NY and cooper - I agree with most others on this thread that these rifles are not only accurate, but have a quality *feel to them. Is the Annie really better?
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Slick reticle in the Super Soaker scope Larry.
Local 22 aholic SWEARS by Cooper over all others.....I do like an And Shoots - have one in mag by Savage
My 77/22 with chopped Butler Creek barrel - bull SS - that was also rechambered to zero tolerance drives tacks, and my trigger job - spring change and hone. Love rotary 10 shot flush mag, under .5k when built. CPC did bbl work.
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I have owned 2 541s, 3 different 54 sporters and 2 CZ's. And 2 64 sporters. From my experience, a used 54 sporter is hands down the most consistent bet. Look at posts and you will not find many stating that they could not get a 54 Annie to shoot. I am not a big fan of the stocks, but love how they shoot. I will say that my 54's have not shot great with cheap ammo. If using inexpensive ammo is a must, I would stay with a CZ. I am considering ordering a NULA .22.
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No I don't think the annie is better than the coopers and kimbers. It is just a totally different feel. I probably stated it wrong the first time. They are all great sporters. I've only handled a Win. 52 sporter. Very nice but I like the stocks on the others much better. I shoot all of mine with scopes.
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If using inexpensive ammo is a must, I would stay with a CZ. Interestingly, my 2 CZ's both require the Wolf MT/S&K ammo. they spray less expensive CCI
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My cz 453 American will print its smallest groups with Wolf but CCI SV is damn close for a fraction of the price. When I'm able to buy bricks of SV again I intend to buy a bunch.
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Happy my 77/22 wads up WW PP at 50 yds....built for a tackdriving hunting rifle....
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I can't believe Larry chopped a Annie Model 54 Metallic Sillouette.
It's shocking. I'm shocked. You've got grit man. What an experiment!
This thread has put me back in the rimfire market, but dem rifles jump past the 1k mark quick.
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My cz 453 American will print its smallest groups with Wolf but CCI SV is damn close for a fraction of the price. When I'm able to buy bricks of SV again I intend to buy a bunch. I see lots of praise for the CZ. I love the way that trainer feels. But, the actions are rough, real rough. It feels like there are burrs in there. Post some pics of your groups. I'd love to see the rifle too.
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The Anschutz 1407R arrived. It absolutely rocks. Boxer was spot-on with the info on these rifles. His info on the rail was icing on the cake... and the D&T receiver holes. I wouldn't mind finding a beater 54 to dork with but if you want a turn-key rifle the 1407R is a steal. Was pressed for time but I managed more one-hole 3-shot groups than I can remember. 5-shot groups with CCI Minis was in the 0.2's at 50 yards. Chesebro said Wolf Match would cut that in half. I've no doubt it'll shoot better, even without match ammo. Just need some time to wring the sucker out... and my rest sucked that day. The Chese-schutz blows the CZ I had out of the universe. 1407R was stacking bulk, Minis, and match. I don't recall the CZ shooting anywhere close to the Anschutz... not by a long shot. I'd like to run the 1407R alongside some CZ, Cooper, and Kimbers though. Anyone in Oregon that wants to stretch the legs on those rifles let me know. I've got 26-mils left with the Super Chicken. Targets and places to shoot in the "hills" are all lined up. Jason
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Just got offa floats and am opening mail. It's been good to me. Batteries are charging,grabbing a bite,swap duds,grab a few rifles,confirm zero and then it's on.
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4th Point, where in Oregon are you located? I'd love to get my Win 52, Rem. 40x, and a couple others out and have a day killing targets just for fun.
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Bob, I'm on the westside of PDX, and shoot in the coast hills. How much elevation do you have left with your scopes? I've got a good spot that let's you have fun at medium range but is protected from the brunt of the coastal swirls. Still enough wind to make it challenging. Only catch is that you'll need the ups/reticle to get to 500y. Other spots can accommodate shorter shots, but can be at the mercy of the wind Jason
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Boxer,
I dig that McM. How's the comb height compared to the factory 1407R?
I've been meaning to replace the 3-15x with a 10x, but will be looking forward to your thoughts on that 12x.
Jason
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You must be pretty close to my area. I'm in Hillsboro and I shoot in the coast range also, but most of my best spots have been closed as they block the old logging roads more each year.
Your place sounds like a kick. Maybe we should get together some time soon.
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