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My 250AI has a #2 barrel at 21". If I do another it would be a #1 at the same length.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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I have three 25-284's...22",23" and 24".
It shoots so soft,so accurately and hits so hard,that I couldn't see going the opposite direction in powder capacity.
The two oldest started shooting the 23 incher with Warp Nine 75's(3700fps+),at 8yrs of age and the only complaint I get,is when I'm slack on reloading duties.
The 22 incher is on a S/S Sucks 700,the 23" on a 600 and the 24" on a blued Sucks 700. The shorties are on McMillan Mountain Rifle patterns,the 24" on a Classic.
For portable precision that really puts a whack on stuff,it'd be tough to do better............................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Campfire Kahuna
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Ooops...contours run #1,#1 and #3,shortest to longest and all are twisted 10"...........................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I have a 250AI barrel that I bought from Mule Deer within the last month or 2. I was going to make a 25-284 out of it, but will gladly sell it, so that you can scratch your 250 itch! I don't really need another 25-284, but I know that I need it more than another 250-3000 or 250AI.
Jeff
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I'd look long and hard for Kurz Mauser action and build a Mannlicher stocked rifle.
An honest man's pillow, is his peace of mind... JM
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Which action for a .250-3000? That�s easy, a Swede Mauser would be dandy. Barrels are available at Brownell�s and you won�t find a better quality action for a low pressure cartridge anywhere.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Why a compromised action,for a chambering that employs readily available brass,which operate at pressure levels commensurate with same?
I don't get it..........................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I think that a late production 1938 action would be a pretty safe action. The only downside of the pre-1898 Mauser style action, besides the cock on closing feature, is the smaller gas shield and the action's ability to handle escaping gas. How often do you reload to the point of blowing primers? Frank DeHaas felt that a Swedish Mauser in good condition could safely be rebarreled to 308, which is not generally considered a low pressure cartridge. That said, I think that if a guy/gal is going to spend $$ on a serious rifle, there are several actions that are better options. My 1943 Husqvarna is a nice action, but I put far too much $$ into it and would have been way ahead of the curve if I'd put that $$ into a Rem 700 action.
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KyWindageII:
My 250-3000 was made by Flaig's in 1963 using a SAKO L579 Action and a No.2 contour 24.5 inch Douglas Premium Barrel having a 1/12 inch twist. I believe that the gunstock is cherrywood, and appears to have been a semi-inletted blank finished by the first owner. This Action suits the 250-3000. Feeding is so smooth that it is difficult to tell that cartridges are being stripped from the magazine and chambered. I cannot say this about many of my other rifles. The rifle is accurate. Without too much difficulty, I developed Deer Loads that group less than an inch and GroundHog Loads that group less than 3/4 inch at 100 yards. Scope Mounting is a little less flexible than for other Actions. I normally use the Burris/Redfield two piece bases and Burris Signature Rings to mount scopes on my SAKOs. I chose a Leupold FXII 6X36 to mount on this rifle because of the great fore/aft mounting flexiblility.
Changes I would make if putting together a 250-3000 today: A shorter barrel (22 inch?), a faster twist (1/10 inch?), a synthetic stock, and a variable scope to better suit this dual purpose cartridge.
I think the choice of the 250-3000 cartridge for Deer and Varmint hunting at normal eastern hunting ranges is a good one. It is powerful enough and shoots flat enough to be effective on Deer and Groundhogs. Because it burns less powder, it is easier on barrels, kicks less, and is inherently more accurate, than any of the bigger 25 cal. alternatives. (All else being equal.) Consequently it will be superior in the light-weight Walking Varminter role.
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My hierarchy of short action 25s would be:
1. 25-284 with >/= 22" barrels 2. 25 Souper with </= 22" barrels 3. 257 Roberts or 257AI, flip a coin or take your pick 4. 250-3000 or 250AI, flip a coin or take your pick
If you don't mind the Winchester 70 action, the 25 WSSM is very impressive. You have to run them at/near full throttle, but man do they shoot!
Jeff
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I've got a 25-284 built on a remmie 600, 23" #1 Pac-Nor. It's the cats Meow of 25's Were I going to build a 250-3000, it would be on a Ruger compact with an 17" #1 barrel. Light and fast pointing. Kinda like a factory 10/22 Virgil B.
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Campfire Kahuna
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You know...that itty-bitty #1 angle,is sorta intriguing.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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You know...that itty-bitty #1 angle,is sorta intriguing............. Better yet, a small action Hagn or one of those sveldt Dakotas. I'd prefer the small Hagn.
An honest man's pillow, is his peace of mind... JM
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Campfire Kahuna
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The '10 is a sweet sumbitch.....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I can appreciate the concept of the striker instead of the hammer. Goes a long way to helping make accuracy a bit easier to accomplish. Though a man can dude up a No.1 in all sorts of ways before reaching the cost of the Dakota. The 10 is a sveldt madam, nothing compared to the small frame Hagn though.
An honest man's pillow, is his peace of mind... JM
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I think I just came up with a formula for another rifle I NEED! (grin) This should be a BlackTail killin sumbitch! Virgil B.
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I think if I was to build a .250 to go with the two factory models I already use, it would be duded up with nice wood and the trimmings. Kind of like that 7x57 Mannlicker BForrest(think it was him) has shown from time to time. Might not be as practical as the Stick formula .25-284s, but would sure warm the heart whenever I held it. Would make a hell of a rifle for whitetails and groundhogs too.
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Bah, drop the bolt action nonsense and for a .250, use a Savage 99.
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funny you should ask, I did just that. mine started as a model 70 compact, sent it to douglas for a new barrel in 250-3000 and they duplicated the original contour. dropped it right in the stock and good to go. so far, kids have shot 7 deer with it, all one-shot kills. love that little 250 and they are not afraid to shoot it.
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