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If I wanted to mischaracterize you I wouldn't ask you a question.

And psychopath, really? At least be creative Chris.


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your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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I've made many of them to be liars on the witness stand. It is usually pretty easy to do since the average cop statement will have at least three or four lies in it.


You must be a better attorney than me. When I was doing criminal defense I had a hell of a time proving the cops were lying on the stand.


It depends doesn't it? DWIs are the easiest because the statements all say the same thing, but there is always a DVD. So the jury can see that you're client wasn't swaying and wasn't slurring his words and so on and so forth. That is why DWIs only have a about a fifty percent conviction rate for those that actually go to trial.

"Immediately upon the subject rolling down his window, I noticed the strong odor of alcohol. The subject exhibited red bloodshot and glassy eyes, while slurring his words, and fumbling for his documents...."





Thats rich. Ive never herd a cop tgat has been out of the academy more than two weeks say that he smelled alcohol


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I've made many of them to be liars on the witness stand. It is usually pretty easy to do since the average cop statement will have at least three or four lies in it.


You must be a better attorney than me. When I was doing criminal defense I had a hell of a time proving the cops were lying on the stand.


It depends doesn't it? DWIs are the easiest because the statements all say the same thing, but there is always a DVD. So the jury can see that you're client wasn't swaying and wasn't slurring his words and so on and so forth. That is why DWIs only have a about a fifty percent conviction rate for those that actually go to trial.

"Immediately upon the subject rolling down his window, I noticed the strong odor of alcohol. The subject exhibited red bloodshot and glassy eyes, while slurring his words, and fumbling for his documents...."





Thats rich. Ive never herd a cop tgat has been out of the academy more than two weeks say that he smelled alcohol


Sometimes instead of alcohol they'll say "intoxicants". Make you feel better now?

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And, it's closer to a 68% conviction rate with forensics,rather than PC, being the major reason for not guilty findings or acquittals;for those very rare cases that go to trial by jury.

I'll look forward to you having evidence to the contrary, cossatojoe.


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I would assume jurisdictions vary, but in mine, the last statistics I saw were 54%. And forensics are always an issue at DWI trials. Who claimed otherwise?

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If when at the zoo the monkeys begin flinging poo, you step briskly away from their cage you will get none on you and they will eventually exhaust their current supply.

I suspect, too, that - If when at the 'Campfire' the police begin flinging personal insults, you step briskly away from their personalizations and back to real issues you will get none on you and they will eventually exhaust their current supply.

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"The real issues"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHGAHAHA


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
"The real issues"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHGAHAHA


Whoa, step back from the cage...monkey poo incoming.

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And, it's closer to a 68% conviction rate with forensics,rather than PC, being the major reason for not guilty findings or acquittals;for those very rare cases that go to trial by jury.

I'll look forward to you having evidence to the contrary, cossatojoe.


But of course, with the administrative hearings, PC is generally the only issue. And surprisingly, they screw that up a lot too. In my area, they'll commonly screw that up where a local makes the stop and calls a DPS to actually administer the tests and make the arrest. Then they'll fail to document the PC properly. I had one last week where the arresting officer wrote everything in the third person so that his entire statement sounded like it was hearsay within hearsay and then he failed to even sign it. I simply said who I was and what I was there for and before I could even get out another word, the DPS attorney said, "We're dismissing that one. You can go and I'll send you an order."

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First off, I was never in police academy. Furthermore, after scoring 98th percentile on the entrance exam shortly after high school, and after being informed that my score put me in the first hiring slot, and that I should expect to be contacted in the next week or two about coming in for the physical, I was sent a letter informing me about the stay on the hiring process because a civil rights group sued the police department claiming the test was racist since no blacks made it into the first or second hiring slots based on their test scores.

Anything you've heard different has been the product of the fevered imaginations of the likes of Bob, who have ulterior motives for discrediting people with whom they cannot hold their own in honest debate.
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Then tell us more about your personal knowledge as to how police officers are trained. Did you read a book?


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Originally Posted by isaac

Then tell us more about your personal knowledge as to how police officers are trained. Did you read a book?
I get it. This is your twisted way of suggesting that unless someone is a cop, or been to academy, they cannot have anything to say about the police, right? But wait a minute, Copernicus. Don't you criticize US Senators and Representatives? Please fill us all in with the details of your personal experiences serving in either of those offices.

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Nice try,bullshitt artist. I'm not surprised at the grossly illogical comparison,however. No one is, actually. However, you professed to know a great deal of how police officers are trained. Spoke many times about it, in fact.

What premised all that blather? What facts did you reply upon since you didn't have such training?

It's ok to finally admit you were just running your mouth. We're all used to that.


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Originally Posted by isaac
Nice try,bullshitt artist. I'm not surprised at the grossly illogical comparison,however. No one is, actually. However, you professed to know a great deal of how police officers are trained. Spoke many times about it, in fact.

What premised all that blather? What facts did you reply upon since you didn't have such training?

It's ok to finally admit you were just running your mouth. We're all used to that.
Yes, in this age of information, facts about police training are simply beyond accessing for mere mortals. Right Copernicus?

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Then tell us more about your personal knowledge as to how police officers are trained. Did you read a book?
I get it. This is your twisted way of suggesting that unless someone is a cop, or been to academy, they cannot have anything to say about the police, right? But wait a minute, Copernicus. Don't you criticize US Senators and Representatives? Please fill us all in with the details of your personal experiences serving in either of those offices.


Chris, i think what he is saying is without the experience of the training how can you make a statement on the content or structure of the training.


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If when at the zoo the monkeys begin flinging poo, you step briskly away from their cage you will get none on you and they will eventually exhaust their current supply.

I suspect, too, that - If when at the 'Campfire' the police begin flinging personal insults, you step briskly away from their personalizations and back to real issues you will get none on you and they will eventually exhaust their current supply.


Which police are flinging insults?


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Nice try,bullshitt artist. I'm not surprised at the grossly illogical comparison,however. No one is, actually. However, you professed to know a great deal of how police officers are trained. Spoke many times about it, in fact.

What premised all that blather? What facts did you reply upon since you didn't have such training?

It's ok to finally admit you were just running your mouth. We're all used to that.
Yes, in this age of information, facts about police training are simply beyond accessing for mere mortals. Right Copernicus?


Yes, especially about how they attain their vastly superior marksmanship skills.

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Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. ~ Frederic Bastiat

When peace and order are the focus a few police chase a few criminals around, and ordinary citizens hardly ever have to risk interaction with either police or criminals.

When power and plunder are the focus many police chase many ordinary citizens around, and ordinary citizens must constantly risk interaction with both police and criminals - if he can any longer tell them apart.

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Are you an expert in police training too,nurse?


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Yes, in this age of information, facts about police training are simply beyond accessing for mere mortals.
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Having not ever been there or a participant, upon what do you premise the HS you blather? Are you saying you read about it?

Games up, tard.


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Originally Posted by HugAJackass
Most of the idiots posting here have never been victims of crime.

They believe that men are angels, or that they will shape up because a community wants them to play along with others.

Step into any city on the planet and the people living there can tell you otherwise.

Newsflash, men are not angels...




Bring back the local lynch mobs! Because they were arbiters of justice!.... TFF... crazy


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