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How and where can I learn to set up an off the grid system. I'm talking small scale---just enough to run my pellet stove and or my propane furnace. Pellet stove is 200-400 watts and propane furnace should be less than 1000W. Thanks, Mark.


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Tons of information on the Internet & numerous magazine articles & books at your library. Backwoodsman & Backswoods Home Magazines are two to start with.


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Read the fine print on the wind turbines. I looked at a small one a while back. In tiny lettering they said that to get the rated wattage you needed a 24 mph sustained wind. That's a lot of wind.


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How and where can I learn to set up an off the grid system. I'm talking small scale---just enough to run my pellet stove and or my propane furnace. Pellet stove is 200-400 watts and propane furnace should be less than 1000W. Thanks, Mark.


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Unless you live in the plains states, solar-12v battery system would probably be the best. What about a refrigerator? A lot of people buy 12 volt RV stuff. You can store propane for a long time, so a propane generator (I have one 10,000 watts) can almost run your entire house.

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Here's a good place to get info from, the guy knows his stuff.

A combination of the two is usually best.

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Solar isnt worth a dang here in the winter. A month or more of inversion, which also brings little to no wind would have a guy hurtin if he was dependent on it.

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I agree with a combination of the two being best, but I'd still want a generator option. 12vdc stuff for RV's and switching lighting to led's is key to keeping load down but some stuff has a big draw.

If you set up a battery bank, inverter, and split loads 12vdc and 110 you'll be better off than running all 110vac. In my area a outdoor furnance with radiant heat floors is highly thought of. I've been wondering how hard it would be to set up a steam generator with the condensate being used to heat before returning to process.


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We seem to have a regional "energy fair" on an annual basis here in the PNW. Folks show up and discuss/present designs and equipment with a ton of vendors around too.



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Well, you need four sources of power, a generator, batteries windmill and solar panels. You set it up to charge your storage batteries and the batteries powers your home. How big a system you will need will depend where you are and how big your home is going to be? The place I lived in when I worked in AK, was set up that way. but it was a 180sf cabin- that was purposely built to not need much to heat, I heated with wood. The Battery house had just six lead acid batteries and it ran the place well most weeks the generator would run for maybe 4 to 6 hours in Winter and maybe 2 hours in summer. Making your own power is not cheap on a KWH basis. There are people that build these sort of systems. Plan on spending some money.


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I have propane (extra tanks) and a generator. I just want something to run the low wattage heat stoves without firing up a generator and burning up my propane just to run a 300 watt pellet stove. Thanks to all replies.


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The condensate needs to be fairly hot before it is returned to the boiler or you'll end up with thermal shock to your boiler.


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