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Refunds could still be possible with a flat tax. Not everyone collects a bi-weekly paycheck or pays a single tax bill at the end of the year.
I too like the idea of a flat tax. Not a fan of a federal sales tax though. File quarterly or annually or whatever. File AFTER the money has been made, then you write out a check for the amount. No refunds needed.
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A flat tax I agree with.
A federal sales tax won't help the economy, I think it would hurt it. Most states already have a state sales tax and some are pretty high, throw on a fed sales tax........
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A flat tax I agree with.
A federal sales tax won't help the economy, I think it would hurt it. Most states already have a state sales tax and some are pretty high, throw on a fed sales tax........ One reason a sales tax is superior is that it hits the super wealthy too, who ordinarily don't actually "make" much "income" to be taxed in a flat tax, but every time they buy a yacht, a Maserati, or a jet, they will be hit with the tax like everyone else. It also gets the crime bosses and such in exactly the same way for exactly the same reason.
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A flat tax I agree with.
A federal sales tax won't help the economy, I think it would hurt it. Most states already have a state sales tax and some are pretty high, throw on a fed sales tax........ One reason a sales tax is superior is that it hits the super wealthy too, who ordinarily don't actually "make" much "income" to be taxed in a flat tax, but every time they buy a yacht, a Maserati, or a jet, they will be hit with the tax like everyone else. It also gets the crime bosses and such in exactly the same way for exactly the same reason. Another nice feature of the sales tax is that you can keep it off of the true necessities (food & clothing) so it's impact to the poor is minimal.
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I understand that TRH, but there more little people that are trying to survive than folks buying yachts or jets.
A fair/flat tax is a good place to start. Leave it at that.
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Or better yet, lets just elect fiscally responsible people to get our budget in check. We all know that taxes don't go away, politicians just add more.
I know it's a stupid concept but someday it may take hold.
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Just part and parcel of the imposition of a new feudalism. You didn't really think that a few words put on parchment in 1215 and 1776 alone would stop the Government Class from taking it and us all back.
Uncle Sam Revives Feudal Practice to Collect From Children of Debtors
Holding children responsible for the debt incurred by their parents is a feature of historical feudalism and a few modern third-world [bleep].
Developed countries, by and large, assume that a debt dies with the person who willingly incurred it, or at least stops with his or her estate. "By and large," I write, because the U.S. government has broken with centuries of tradition holding individuals responsible for their choices, opting to withhold tax refunds from children whose parents incurred vague and often ill-documented obligations to the feds.
http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/11/uncle-sam-revives-feudal-practice-to-col
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Why stop at parents? Why not collect from aunts, uncles, stisters, brothers etc?
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The IRS should sieze money from lawmakers who happily 'borrowed' from the fund.
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Snowballs chance in hell that our tax system will ever change. Period. "Refunds" have become their own industry. H&R, Liberty Tax service, etc just wanna give you a high interest loan on your money that you overpaid. People are duped into believing a tax refund is a good thing. You paid too much, find a better accountant.
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The IRS should sieze money from lawmakers who happily 'borrowed' from the fund. this , [bleep] crooks , one word commies
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Does anybody know if this "refund" is actually money paid in refunded, or the loss of an earned income tax credit?
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Does anybody know if this "refund" is actually money paid in refunded, or the loss of an earned income tax credit? It is EIC's. The wetbacks have figured out another way to milk us dry.
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I understand that TRH, but there more little people that are trying to survive than folks buying yachts or jets.
A fair/flat tax is a good place to start. Leave it at that. We've had a flat tax and it turned into the monstrosity we have now. Originally, the income tax was a flat tax.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
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The news link , it's was SSI over pay in 1977 to the ladies mother who is now dead , so they kept the daughters income tax refund , EIC or not still wrong in a big way.
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Snowballs chance in hell that our tax system will ever change. Period. "Refunds" have become their own industry. H&R, Liberty Tax service, etc just wanna give you a high interest loan on your money that you overpaid. People are duped into believing a tax refund is a good thing. You paid too much, find a better accountant.
DITTOS +1,000!
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
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Does anybody know if this "refund" is actually money paid in refunded, or the loss of an earned income tax credit? Good question. I was at work earlier today and asked the boss if he had heard of this and he said he was unaware of this tax confiscation. My gut felling is I bet it's refundable credits.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Anonymous
"Self-reliance, free thinking, and wealth is anathema to both the power of the State and the Church." Derby Dude
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Or better yet, lets just elect fiscally responsible people to get our budget in check. They don't exist in American politics.
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1600 Pennsylvania Ave is thick with thieves.
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