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Originally Posted by HugAJackass
Yet, Anarchist join political parties whose purpose is to elect Government officials.

Gotta love the irony in that...


I don't know about other anarchists but I don't belong to any political party any more. I also don't belong to any church for the same reason I'm anarchist.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
*shrugg*

I'm being light about it.


laugh

Touche!


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Originally Posted by HugAJackass
So, to sum up, libertarians are not Libertarians, and anarchist are not Libertarians, and Anarchist Capitalist aren't anarchist, but they are Libertarians....

Well that's simple.


Don't forget that conservatives aren't Conservative (ala Isaac) and Conservatives aren't necessarily Republicans.

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Originally Posted by derby_dude
I don't know about other anarchists but I don't belong to any political party



That makes perfect sense to me; I am leaning more & more in that direction but am libertarian and not officially affiliated with a party either.


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I also don't belong to any church for the same reason I'm anarchist.


Totally different subject; Luther's two kingdoms wink .

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At this point, I'm just watching it all play out.

There's not going to be a good resolution to this mess.

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"Totally different subject; Luther's two kingdoms."

Thanks, I thought I was alone.


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Oh yeah, if your example of anarchy working is people so spread out they never see one another, that's isolation, not anarchy.

Detroit might be more like it. Similar results.


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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
Oh yeah, if your example of anarchy working is people so spread out they never see one another, that's isolation, not anarchy.

Detroit might be more like it. Similar results.


Detroit isn't an example of anarchy. It has a government.

A classic government, actually.

http://metrotimes.com/columns/how-corrupt-is-detroit-1.1285299

Last week the federal government announced that it would stop sending a $50 million annual grant to the Detroit Human Services Department due to nepotism, reckless spending and corruption. In another case, the U.S. Justice Department records allege that contractor and Kwame Kilpatrick pal Bobby Ferguson obtained $58.5 million through extortion and other illegal means as part of the alleged "Kilpatrick Enterprise." Meanwhile, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has recently formed a special multi-agency task force in its Detroit office, declaring a war on public corruption.

"The city of Detroit has been hit hard by public corruption crimes. The individuals who commit these crimes are driven by greed and have no regret for their selfish actions," said IRS-CID Special Agent in Charge Erick Martinez during a March 1 press conference announcing formation of the task force.

That sounds appropriate. When you look at the investigation into dealings at Wayne County under Executive Robert Ficano, the Mayor Kilpatrick et al. indictments, former City Council member Monica Conyers cooling it in the cooler for taking bribes, it would seem this is about as corrupt an area as you can get. Google "Detroit" and "corruption" and you'll find such choice phrases as "notoriously shady U.S. city," "reign of corruption" and (from Wikipedia) a "reputation as one of the most corrupt cities in America."




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Sorry, B, dat was a joke, but not a bad example of when govt breaks down to near anarchy. It's also a pretty good rap on progressivism.

I am pretty sure Detroit would not improve if its remaining govt went away, tonight. That is, until enough folks were killed off to arrive at individual isolation. ;-{>8


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Originally Posted by oldtrapper

I am pretty sure Detroit would not improve if its remaining govt went away, tonight.


I think it would improve dramatically.


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We seriously, but convivially disagree.


What would ensue, would make Attila the Hun look like P T Barnum.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
At this point, I'm just watching it all play out.

There's not going to be a good resolution to this mess.


Me too!


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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
We seriously, but convivially disagree.


What would ensue, would make Attila the Hun look like P T Barnum.


I don't see why you say that.

The government of Detroit is just a bunch of powerful crooks. (like government everywhere)

Why would the city suffer if the most powerful crooks in the city ceased to exist?

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Originally Posted by derby_dude
I don't know about other anarchists but I don't belong to any political party



That makes perfect sense to me; I am leaning more & more in that direction but am libertarian and not officially affiliated with a party either.


Originally Posted by derby_dude
I also don't belong to any church for the same reason I'm anarchist.


Totally different subject; Luther's two kingdoms wink .


I had to go look up Luther's two kingdoms as I'm not Lutheran. I'm not a dualist so I don't subscribe to dualist principles but I can see your point.


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Maybe because all the Detroit gangs would take over?


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Detroit's main problem is that it's full of nig gers.

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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
Sorry, B, dat was a joke, but not a bad example of when govt breaks down to near anarchy. It's also a pretty good rap on progressivism.

I am pretty sure Detroit would not improve if its remaining govt went away, tonight. That is, until enough folks were killed off to arrive at individual isolation. ;-{>8


Actually, Detroit would improve dramatically because there would be justice something that is impossible under government.


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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Detroit's main problem is that it's full of nig gers.


Under anarchy it would not be full for long. The Muslims would see to that.


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Maybe because all the Detroit gangs would take over?


So,...Detroit needs the government crooks to control its non government crooks?

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