Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns Well, it turns out Remington's new R51 is a gigantic turd.

Egads and here I am considering a DPMS!

Guess I won't be trading in my under-powered Walther .380 any time soon. It is completely reliable.

A few more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TSZmkJMBBk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvEAr9TJ51M

It's crazy to me how many different issues this thing is having. Front site. Rear site. Grips. Springs. Double feeds. Firing out of battery. Misfires. Bulging cases. Slide stop issues. Triggers failing.

How does a company like Remington put out such a pile of crap? I don't know that there's any part of this gun that is working correctly.

Interesting. I wonder if Remington will redesign the R51. It is interesting they chose a high power round for a gun that originally was designed for low power rounds.

I don't see the point of the pistol, ITS TOO FREAKING HEAVY!!!! its heavier than a glock 26 and the shield, I really just don't see the point of the gun.

Being heavy compared to a Glock is only a problem for some people. Misfires, misfeeds, and other malfunctions are a problem for everybody.

Does anybody know if these pistols are actually produced by Remington - or if they are contracted to some other maker?

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They are made by Para Ordinance now a part of the Remington consortium.

It appears to be a poorly designed and finished pistol.

I wouldn't

DPMS & Bushmaster used to make really nice guns, they have both gone downhill since Remington took them over

Quality improved immensely when Cerberus took over. The crap Remington was putting out in the 2003-2006 time frame was deplorable.

They may indeed have backslid again, it is a bunch of Union New Yorker's after all, but they did make some positive changes when they first took over.

I just watched the video.....seems the majority of the issues are the gun not going into battery fully, possibly firing out of battery, and light primer strikes....maybe it just needs stiffer springs to fix the majority of the problems.....still Remingtons are pieces of schitt

Definitely not ready for prime time.

Too bad Sig doesn't beef up the P230 design a bit and make it 9mm. That would be everything the new R51 was intended to be.

I can't get past how ugly it is.

Sounds about right coming from Remington. Actually, wouldn't expect anything less.

That is a nice gun as I've had a chance to handle one although not shoot one.

I'm not mechanical engineer nor do I play one on TV but from what I understand that type of design does not lend itself to high power or high performance rounds.

Not necessarily:

X-Mark Pro trigger problem prompts major recall of Remington Model 700 and Model 7 rifles

http://blogs.militarytimes.com/gear...-remington-model-700-and-model-7-rifles/

Due to its being a simple blow back action. They would need to address that.

He was very thorough in demonstrating Remington has effectively managed to chamber a turd for the 9mm Luger cartridge

That appears to be the major problem with R51 it's a simple blow back trying to handle a high powered round. One of those earlier videos explained that.

It's not a simple blow-back. It's the Pederson action. There is a mechanical delay in the unlock, but it's done differently than the Browning design. The only delay with a blow-back is from the case expanding against the chamber. Big difference.

For the Sig 230 to run well with 9mm, it would have to look more like a Hi-Point.