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No doubt this is for the Coast Guard to shoot at pirates.

http://offgridsurvival.com/dhsammopurchases/

At what point does the American public start asking why?

In the latest mass purchase of ammunition by our federal government, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is yet again stockpiling massive amounts of ammunition for their �federal officers.� In a solicitation placed on the Federal Governments FBO.gov website, DHS is requesting bids for 25 Million Rounds of Shotgun Ammunition �12 Gauge �Slug� and �Buckshot�.

In October 2013, DHS estimated it already had approximately 159 million rounds in inventory, but as we�ve highlighted in the past, these numbers are probably much higher. In fact, in February of this year, we found a report from the Government Accountability Office which exposed DHS plans to spend $22.7 million to buy an estimated 75.1 million rounds of ammunition.

And let�s not forget the DHS purchase orders placed in 2013 for a shocking 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition � which is still in effect, allowing the feds to manipulate the ammo markets and take possession of this ammo anytime they wish.

At what point does the American public start asking why?

Multiple agencies following DHS example and starting to stockpile ammunition:

It�s not just the Department of Homeland Security; it�s pretty much ever federal agency who is now stockpiling massive amounts of ammunition. While the government scrambles to pass laws limiting the public�s second amendment rights, they are at the same time arming federal employees like nothing we�ve ever seen.

In August of 2013, The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) placed a solicitation for 3,454,000 rounds of .347 SIG ammo.
In January of 2014, the United States Postal Service placed a solicitation for �proposals for assorted small arms ammunition.�
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration even got in on the action and placed orders for 56,000 Rounds of .40 Caliber 180 Grain Jacketed Hollow Points and 16,000 Rounds of .40 Caliber Frangible Lead Free Rounds.

At what point does the American public start asking why?

Militarization of Local Police Forces

While these ammunition purchases raise alarm bells, even more troubling is the amount of battlefield gear and equipment being pumped into local police forces throughout the United States � something that we�ve covered numerous times over the last couple of years.

United States Army gives DHS & Local Police forces 13,000 MRAPs (Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected Vehicles) � all at no cost!
Small Rural Towns � many with populations under 30K � receiving $793K Mine-Resistant Military Vehicles
DHS in the process of building a fleet of Predator B Drones that will be deployed throughout the United States.
DHS admits to spending 1.4 Billion Dollars to Spy on American Public through Fusion Centers

Questions every American should be asking:

Why do our local police forces need advanced weaponry and Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected vehicles intended for the field of battle?
Why does DHS need a fleet of battlefield drones?
Why do so many government agencies � all of which have no real law enforcement power � need to be armed?
As the Feds cut billions of dollars to our military, and purge over 20,000 marines, why are they shifting that money to arm local police forces and government agencies?

At what point does the American public start asking why?

Those who know history should take note. Remember one of the big factors of Germany successfully using "Blitzkrieg" tactics was their big military buildup prior to the war. This was in direct violation of the WWI treaties which limited Germany's military. The allies weren't unaware, they just ignored it and some even thought it was good. Then the tanks rolled into Poland and the Sudetenland.

Lots of Americans know about all this but we assure each other that it's "normal" and listen to dickweasels who relentlessly flame those who are calling attention to these activities, "tin foil hat wearers" and the like. Some of these questions are valid.

Disconcerting is an understatement.

Yet the media gives them a pass on these purchases.

Even though they would lie, has the government ever given a reason for stock piling ammo?

When did these massive purchases start? Was it in 2013?

At what point does all the secrecy truly move from needed "National Security" to clandestine, treasonous ops being made by persons who either are attempting to or have already co-opted the government? At what point do we admit to ourselves that in reality, the destination of the majority of Democrat politicians and our faves, Republican politicians, are one in the same even if the paths taken to get there differ?

I do not hate my government and I love my country. However, I do fear that the one is being taken over by forces who wish to control the other.

And, when the players change, it'll all get sold as government surplus for pennies on the dollar.

Some here claim that they are normal. That they have always done business this way. I am not privy to that info and so have been pretty middle-of-the-road about the whole thing. However when put into context by taking all of these different moves being made together, I think one has to at least seriously consider some very scary possibilities.

If I understand correctly, they haven't taken possession of most of it.

Kind of a "Will Call" situation.

Really? To whom? I have not seen any such thing. As a kid I remember cheap military surplus stuff, but not for years. Military surplus items, excluding ammo even, at least from the USA, certainly do NOT seem cheap to me. Ammo itself has fluctuated somewhat, but has never came back down to where it was pre-Obama and before that even, the cheaper calibers such as 5.56 had taken significant increases from the 90's. There are other possible explanations for this but...You go to buy from the DCMP and even that stuff is high-dollar.

The point was made in the article that this allows the .gov to manipulate the market at the very least, without even actually purchasing the ammo.

I'm well stocked on most stuff, but to me anyway, there's a big difference between 1000 rounds of 44 Mag. and the same amount of 223. 1000 rounds of 44 is a huge amount whereas 10,000 of 223 would be about right. I saw some 900 round cases of 223 at Academy last weekend for $500. For many years the going rate for 223 premium grade, new manufactured milsurp...say Winchester whitebox, was $150-200 per 1000.

Sounds like somebody placed an order for five years worth of shotgun ammo.



Travis

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...re_on_the_22_rimfire_shortag#Post8785940


What goes up always comes back down.

Why aren't the Republican Congressmen screaming about this to the American people daily...?

Because they work for Team Fed and the Party of Gov't just as much as the other party.

One of two reasons
1 Either they just see it as a necessary means to an end.
OR
2 It's just business as usual and they think we're nuts for raising such a ruckus over nothing.

You pick.

Yup. My guess is that prices will drop pretty quick when that second amendment abolishionist leaves the white house. I hope any gun owners who voted for him have learned their lesson.

I don't disagree that folks need to watch this, but the .gov folks are in the same boat we are in also, I"ve advised my local LEO and actual city police also, that if they are smart they'll stockpile 2 years of ammo adn then rotate, instead of buying qual ammo 2 months before qual and then be amazed there is none.

If you have EVERYONE following the same advice, no wonder we ain't catching up.

What does amaze me though, is that if I was .gov, and wanted to stock up for another blitz, and I sure ain't gonna be the one that says it'll never happen again... I'd open my own .gov branch to make brass, bullets, primers, powder and load my own. Much like LC does in a way for military ammo for our troops. The amazing part is why have they not done that yet?

They did.



Travis

unca sugar cant enact gun control.............


so he buys up ammo in huge orders and creates raw material shortages across the entire industry

then you have all the tackleberry,s buying shyt up as fast as it hits the stores with nothing else to do all day besides stand in line at wally world at 5 am eating breakfast bisquits waiting for 7am stocking time


it all equals informal gun control

if a brick of 22's don't last the rest of your life you better find another way to get it done.