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Well, according to what I've read and already posted, 40,000 (approximate) belong to Customs and the Border Patrol. I'm pretty sure they're located at Ports of Entry and Border Patrol Stations.
I don't know how many uniformed personnel the Coast Guard employs, but I'm pretty sure they can be found on Coast Guard vessels, and bases.
Hope this answers at least part of your question.
So tell me, how many shotgun shells should DHS contract?
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Thanks. Still sounds like a shi#load of ammo in the aggregate. I think it would ease a lot of peoples minds if they broke down the amount of ammo each agency/department gets and for what purpose. Also prior years use and average per year of agencies existence. __________ Some of these agencies I wouldn't trust with a Barney Fife shotgun. ______________ As far as the TSA goes, form 'em in a circle and give them enough ammo until there is no more TSA.
Pardon the lack of quotes, damn ipad is doing what it feels like doing. And typing on this mofo ain't easy. My sincerest apologies.
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I'd like to see what the ammo requirements and purchases were for each agency before they became part of DHS and compare them to what they are buying now.
Are the post office, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the IRS, branches of DHS?
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1) Is the USCG a branch of the Military?
2) Is there anything that states the USCG can't carry HP ammo whilst performing it's Law Enforcement activities? Hell if I know. I was Army, we were military.
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You don't feel the Border Patrol, Customs, etc. should have shotguns? Travis They aint patrolling or securing chit Bro Flave. Gunner
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I'd like to see what the ammo requirements and purchases were for each agency before they became part of DHS and compare them to what they are buying now.
Are the post office, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the IRS, branches of DHS? Ask your State Representative.
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You don't feel the Border Patrol, Customs, etc. should have shotguns? Travis They aint patrolling or securing chit Bro Flave. Gunner So that's a no? Travis
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Ask your State Representative. Why? Don't you know?
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Hell if I know. I was Army, we were military. So was TAK... Travis
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1) Is the USCG a branch of the Military?
2) Is there anything that states the USCG can't carry HP ammo whilst performing it's Law Enforcement activities? Hell if I know. I was Army, we were military. Guess you need to know where the fmj use in military comes from first. Then see if it applies to the USCG whilst conducting LE. How about the Boarder Patrol? Butler, NJ police?
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Ask your State Representative. Why? Don't you know? I do. Travis
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Ask your State Representative. Why? Don't you know? Don't you? All you do is ask questions. It's not my job to answer them. Worse than a 6 yr. old.
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Ask your State Representative. Why? Don't you know? I do. Do tell. We're all ears. Travis
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Well, according to what I've read and already posted, 40,000 (approximate) belong to Customs and the Border Patrol. I'm pretty sure they're located at Ports of Entry and Border Patrol Stations.
I don't know how many uniformed personnel the Coast Guard employs, but I'm pretty sure they can be found on Coast Guard vessels, and bases.
Hope this answers at least part of your question.
So tell me, how many shotgun shells should DHS contract?
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Thanks. Still sounds like a shi#load of ammo in the aggregate. I think it would ease a lot of peoples minds if they broke down the amount of ammo each agency/department gets and for what purpose. Also prior years use and average per year of agencies existence. __________ Some of these agencies I wouldn't trust with a Barney Fife shotgun. ______________ As far as the TSA goes, form 'em in a circle and give them enough ammo until there is no more TSA.
Pardon the lack of quotes, damn ipad is doing what it feels like doing. And typing on this mofo ain't easy. My sincerest apologies.
I've listened to Senator Tester explain it. But personally, I'll take common sense and basic mathematics over anything somebody tells me. Consumables go quick. Just a fact of life. Travis
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All you do is ask questions. It's not my job to answer them. Napolitono wouldn't answer questions either.
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Here is one for you Watch4bear?
Under what administration were the agencies you mentioned given an enforcement arm?
Is this the first time they have bought ammunition?
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Find a buddy from the Army, open a new tab in Google, and buy a calculator. I can't hold your hand all night. Travis
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Here is an article in the Military Times that explains the purchase contracts, what has actually been purchased and what has just been advertised for. I'd like to see what the ammo requirements and purchases were for each agency before they became part of DHS and compare them to what they are buying now. That should shed some light. Military Times DHS Ammo Puchases I have a question about that article. What civilian training courses does one shoot 1800 rounds in a single weekend? DHS is a massive umbrella agency, with over 100,000 armed law enforcement personnel according to a DHS spokesperson. If we divide 90 million by 100,000, that means each agent gets 900 rounds per year to shoot. That isn�t a whole lot, considering that civilians going through handgun training courses sometimes shoot twice as many rounds � in a single weekend.
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National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Noodles. Travis
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