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Why the heck does the Campfire care about Alpine climbing? laffin' Climbing Everest is far from 'Alpine climbing'. Well, there's about a couple handful of folks that have done Everest in Alpine style. May be more now, but I've not really followed climbing for about a decade.
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Why the heck does the Campfire care about Alpine climbing? laffin' Climbing Everest is far from 'Alpine climbing'. Well, there's about a couple handful of folks that have done Everest in Alpine style. May be more now, but I've not really followed climbing for about a decade. Very doggone few, especially compared to the numbers of people who have attempted it...and the numbers of people who have been successful. Alpinists don't use sherpas, fixed ropes, or bottled oxygen...and they don't have a line of fixed camps (stocked) along the way. It's completely self-sufficient. That's WAY different from the 'expedition' style of climbing that is overwhelmingly done on Everest these days.
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Personally, I think you have got to be about half crazy to desire to do that climb.
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Why, you don't think it's appropriate?
I do think it's appropriate. Which gets back to why would you start it in the first place.
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Just who was it that made the Sherpas climb? Seems they had a choice and knew what the going rate was.
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Doesn't seem all too different that what those of us see when we hunt Africa.
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Why, you don't think it's appropriate?
I do think it's appropriate. Which gets back to why would you start it in the first place. Jesus. Why does anybody start a thread in this forum? Are you serious? Don't ask again.
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Seriously. Your first post reeked of righteous indignation, then you mocked it.
So yeah, I asked why you would start it in the first place.
Seems juvenile.
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Seriously. Your first post reeked of righteous indignation, then you mocked it.
So yeah, I asked why you would start it in the first place.
Seems juvenile. I thought the entire purpose of the Hunter's Campfire was to be juvenile? Travis
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Sorry, of course you're right.
So this was awesome.
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Can't get the article to pull up yet. Fort Worth Star Telegram. Today
Big part of the Sherpas say they are not climbing this year and are heading off the mountain. Still 3 bodies missing under the snow, they said they would not walk on their friends under the snow.
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Isn't Weathers the guy who was left sitting on a snow bank for hours because everybody who looked at him was certain he was already dead?
Yes, His brother is a dentist in the ATL area. Beck is a pathologist in Dallas. On the climb, he had problems with the intense UV exposure at that altitude because he had done RK on his eyes years before. Blinded, his guide left him to help some others and never came back to get him. Beck overnighted in the open, passed out from hypothermia, then awoke and found the strength to stumble down back into camp. His mates were sure he was going to die, so they made him comfortable in a tent and left him. Next day, he wasn't dead! He was airlifted off of the mountain and survived. From that, I lost any appetite to climb tall, cold mountains with or without Sherpas.
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How much do you tip a sherpa?
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Supply and demand will fix . The sherpas hold the winning hand they just need to up their daily rates 10x normal. Make the teams buy them a heavy duty life insurance policy and they in turn would have to make that many less dangerous climbs bailing out these ungrateful nature lovers .
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Seriously. Your first post reeked of righteous indignation, then you mocked it.
So yeah, I asked why you would start it in the first place.
Seems juvenile. I thought the entire purpose of the Hunter's Campfire was to be juvenile? Travis 8th graders always have the best righteous indignation
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There is probably a load of youngster who have done nothing but dream of carrying sh1t up a mountain that will gladly step in and take over when the sherpas strike. I do think the climbing companies should pony up some money- at least they would look better to the Nepalese!
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Personally I think they should shut down the whole mountain. At least until the climbing companies go up there and cart down all of their darn garbage. Shameful the trash they've left up there. Ya, actual piles of frozen sh$t at base camp the way I read it. With respect to the money situation my first guess is the Nepalese government is screwing the deal with the Sherpas by coming between the Sherpas and the employers. Birdwatcher
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Isn't Weathers the guy who was left sitting on a snow bank for hours because everybody who looked at him was certain he was already dead?
Yes, His brother is a dentist in the ATL area. Beck is a pathologist in Dallas. On the climb, he had problems with the intense UV exposure at that altitude because he had done RK on his eyes years before. Blinded, his guide left him to help some others and never came back to get him. Beck overnighted in the open, passed out from hypothermia, then awoke and found the strength to stumble down back into camp. His mates were sure he was going to die, so they made him comfortable in a tent and left him. Next day, he wasn't dead! He was airlifted off of the mountain and survived. From that, I lost any appetite to climb tall, cold mountains with or without Sherpas. If I remember correctly, didn't a Nepalese army officer set a record for the highest assent in a helicopter to get him out? Mike
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ehh. what the hell else they going to do? what with their brown leathery skin, squinted eyes, stubby sausage fingers and giant lungs. walmart greeter? i don't think so.
get back to work sherpa's or we're bringing in the mezzicans.
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Personally I think they should shut down the whole mountain. At least until the climbing companies go up there and cart down all of their darn garbage. Shameful the trash they've left up there. Ya, actual piles of frozen sh$t at base camp the way I read it. With respect to the money situation my first guess is the Nepalese government is screwing the deal with the Sherpas by coming between the Sherpas and the employers. Birdwatcher Well the last thing I"d be worried about among trash and O2 bottles and such, is something actually thats natural and biodegradable. Of course from our point of view they should get more. But then I"d assume they are getting more already than they should be by farming or such. And that they choose to do this, not forced labor so to speak. But then if they were even given say 100,000 life insurance policy for them, would that not possibly equate to a million or more for one of us? Point being whats the cost of living there and if you pay them more, what would they do with it? Certainly I"d hope they make more than other jobs. Just like miners should make a bit more than farmers due to the inherent risk... but they probably already are.
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