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17 years for me. No emails by now surely means nothing drawn.
Hey Chip, My phone ate your number. Call me this weekend. Im in Odessa right now. Leaving for home tomorrow.
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How do you guys go so long without drawing, at least as residents.
Do you guys study the application statistics to try to make it work for you? One of the things i've found for people that don't understand the draw is that they try to apply for 3 different awesome hunts with incredibly low draw odds. With the way NM's drawing works, this isn't logical.
There's no sense in putting down- #1-Valle Videl 1st rifle Bull #2-16D 1st Rifle Bull #3-15 3rd Archery ES
This kind of application is kind of a waste of 2 spots in my opinion. Instead make your first choice a awesome hunt with low draw odds, make the second choice a decent unit with ok success rates and make your third choice for something like a Dec cow tag or a 5B bull tag.
This kind of application mindset has made me successful in drawing a elk tag, even some of them were 'not good' units, almost every year. I'd rather be hunting for elk in a crappy unit like 5B or chasing cow elk around unit 9 or 15 than sitting at home.
BTW- I'm just trying to add some insight here. Not trying to insult anyones intelligence.
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I am not even putting in for Valle Vidal, Gila, or Sargeants. I am studying odds that give me best chance, especially for antelope, deer, etc.. I put in for 2b for deer, but my #1 choice was best odds by a mile.
Oh well, I still have the Colorado draw in a week.
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I won't be sitting home! It's war on ducks and geese!
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No luck here.
Time to start looking for landowner tags.
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Just nabbed a late season cow tag... Gotta at least fill the freezer!
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I am not even putting in for Valle Vidal, Gila, or Sargeants. I am studying odds that give me best chance, especially for antelope, deer, etc.. I put in for 2b for deer, but my #1 choice was best odds by a mile.
Oh well, I still have the Colorado draw in a week. You CAN do that stuff with deer too, but i never put down the crappy tags for those guys. There are almost always some left over tags that you can pick up if you get desperate. I won't waste the fuel to go on a wild goose chase somewhere for some of the less successful deer units.
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How do you guys go so long without drawing, at least as residents.
Do you guys study the application statistics to try to make it work for you? One of the things i've found for people that don't understand the draw is that they try to apply for 3 different awesome hunts with incredibly low draw odds. With the way NM's drawing works, this isn't logical.
There's no sense in putting down- #1-Valle Videl 1st rifle Bull #2-16D 1st Rifle Bull #3-15 3rd Archery ES
This kind of application is kind of a waste of 2 spots in my opinion. Instead make your first choice a awesome hunt with low draw odds, make the second choice a decent unit with ok success rates and make your third choice for something like a Dec cow tag or a 5B bull tag.
This kind of application mindset has made me successful in drawing a elk tag, even some of them were 'not good' units, almost every year. I'd rather be hunting for elk in a crappy unit like 5B or chasing cow elk around unit 9 or 15 than sitting at home.
BTW- I'm just trying to add some insight here. Not trying to insult anyones intelligence. I used to think like you are saying, but when you get your third or 4th choice in a worthless area with no animals, it's a complete waste of time. Rather just hunt coyotes...
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0/7 years running now on elk.
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I drew unit 33 archery mule deer and a Barbary tag. No elk
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Unit 53 first rifle bull and Burros mountains Coues tags...pretty good year.
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Big goose egg here again.....
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Goose egg for me too,no cow elk tag again.
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Archery Ibex for me! My wife got 36 rifle Elk and 17 Sept. Archery Deer!
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Archery Ibex for me! My wife got 36 rifle Elk and 17 Sept. Archery Deer! Congrats.
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Congrats to you SLM for your Antelope tag. Congrats to all who drew tags.
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How do you guys go so long without drawing, at least as residents.
Do you guys study the application statistics to try to make it work for you? One of the things i've found for people that don't understand the draw is that they try to apply for 3 different awesome hunts with incredibly low draw odds. With the way NM's drawing works, this isn't logical.
There's no sense in putting down- #1-Valle Videl 1st rifle Bull #2-16D 1st Rifle Bull #3-15 3rd Archery ES
This kind of application is kind of a waste of 2 spots in my opinion. Instead make your first choice a awesome hunt with low draw odds, make the second choice a decent unit with ok success rates and make your third choice for something like a Dec cow tag or a 5B bull tag.
This kind of application mindset has made me successful in drawing a elk tag, even some of them were 'not good' units, almost every year. I'd rather be hunting for elk in a crappy unit like 5B or chasing cow elk around unit 9 or 15 than sitting at home.
BTW- I'm just trying to add some insight here. Not trying to insult anyones intelligence. I probably shouldn't let this out, but I've taken three 300+ 6x6 bulls out of 5b, two more in the 270-280 range, and several raghorns. So don't bother applying for this crappy unit. Also, I've been told that your 3rd choice is weighted exactly the same in the system as your first choice. In other words, the odds of drawing a decent hunt with your third choice are just as good as with your first or second. Maybe that's true, maybe it isn't. Personally, I've gotten to the point where I'd rather stay home as opposed to hunting in a non-productive area in this state (and there's a number of those), particularly for deer. You'd be inclined to take any old elk tag, but the deer hunting in NM has deteriorated over the last 20 years to the point where it's not worth the effort and expense unless you can draw something decent.
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