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Just a quick perusal of the chapter titles tells me all I need to know about the book - the chapter that is titled "Following (or harassing) the money." The only cases I worked, or was aware of, where following the money (who has the most to gain from the commission of the offense) were those murders committed by true sociopaths who had psycho-sexual fantasies. The sociopath would select an appropriate target to act out his fantasy with, then he would strike. In the cases I was aware of the perpetrator didn't give a shhit about money. When investigating a offence the first step is to try and discover who had the most to gain or lose - depends on the context.

We all have it bad but haven't resorted to stealing! Your continual hiding of what they did only makes them look so guilty of something really bad! I couldn't really care WHY they can't get a job! Honest people can't get jobs either!

I understand your calling is God and forgiveness but expecting a whole town to turn the other cheek just isn't going to happen! If ya really want to help them, let them work for you!

It grinds me even more that while your here gathering support for a criminal, honest folks are hungry and homeless! They have kids suffering thru things also! Where's their forgiveness!

Just a quick perusal of the chapter titles tells me all I need to know about the book - the chapter that is titled "Following (or harassing) the money." The only cases I worked, or was aware of, where following the money (who has the most to gain from the commission of the offense) was useless were those murders committed by true sociopaths who had psycho-sexual fantasies. The sociopath would select an appropriate target to act out his fantasy with, then he would strike. In the cases I was aware of the perpetrator didn't give a shhit about money. When investigating a offence the first step is to try and discover who had the most to gain or lose - depends on the context.

The thesis of the book is that you have almost certainly already committed some act, most likely many of them, for which a prosecutor, should he take it into his head to do so, can get you arrested, indicted, convicted, and imprisoned.

I'm not talking about crimes you have committed that you're pretty sure nobody knows about.

I'm not talking about things you've done that you didn't know were illegal at the time.

I'm not talking about things you've done that were probably legal but may have at times approached the boundary of illegality.

If you've ever done any of those things, this book isn't about you.

This is about people who didn't do anything even approaching an illegal act, but who were still successfully convicted of felonies by prosecutors and judges with axes to grind.

The point to be made here is not that there are preparations you should make if you want to stay out of prison. That ship has sailed. If a prosecutor or a judge wants you in prison, you'll end up in prison no matter who you are or what you have or haven't done. As they say in the field, any halfway decent prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich. It's no longer clear that a defense lawyer is even worth the expense anymore.

The point to be made here is that the fact that somebody else ended up in prison is a reliable indicator of...pretty much nothing at all.

Lots of folks act as though it is, but there's a significant amount of money to be made and business to be done and competitors to be fleeced by people who understand that it isn't.

EXACLTY...where is it? an no, I did not expect a town to, just enough for the person to get a foothold to a new start

Didn't read the whole thread so don't know if this has been covered�.but a for instance is my ex-wife, who cheated on me.

When will she be forgiven?


Easy���never.




I pretty much take that approach to most malfeasance.

Actually I'm very sorry if I've said anything that may have offended you! Your trying to do good things and I sure respect ya for it! I'm going thru a lot myself and this morning I have to do something I've dreaded for a long time and its very painful!

I hope ya can help this fella, and I hope even more that your kindness and caring will also help non criminals to get on their feet also!

Exactly what I was trying to say in my post above, dang I envy you eloquent speakers. smile

Gunner

Perfect people demanding the company of perfect people........

Good luck with that.

No Dutch, it's very simple, I'm not ever gonna:

Try to screw your wife
stab you in the back on a business deal
steal from you
commit crimes against others

If people would pull their fu-kin heads outta their asses and do the right thing they wouldnt be asking for forgivness, plus, I AINT GOD, and I aint in the forgivin business.

Gunner

I don't know if it's because it's Sunday or what, but I find this post very confusing.


Travis

When you break the social and moral contract with a community you will likely NEVER be "forgiven".

Nor should it be as the individual has demonstrated and proven that they are not worthy of the trust and respect given to those who follow the laws and standards.

It sounds like much more than "I made a mistake".

It's very easy for a man to do wrong on all fronts everyday, keep your head in the path of the straight and narrow young buck.

Gunner

Nice touch on your keyboard,Gunny. You nailed it.

Good advice, Gunner....
for both my heads.

Thanks Bob and 'Slave, testosterone in an evil being all it's own. lol

Gunner

The small one is deaf.
I forgive.

Confucius say, man who eat cracker in bed have very crumby sleep.

Gunner

I've been straight my whole life but I can't say I've always picked the narrow one.

50/50 ain't bad.

Thanks Gunner.


Travis