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DIY,
In what situations would you personally see the best uses of Frog Lube vs. One Shot?
Why/when one over the other? Im not sure im really qualified to say (but I will) If I would break a gun down to its base parts for a complete cleaning and had easy access to every surface to apply the lube and then wipe it off, then Frog Lube and One shot would be great choices because the frog lube is viscous and needs to be wiped off after application. If I was not breaking a gun down and was only opening the action and spraying down the action and internal parts that could be reached by the spray tube, I would go with the One Shot because there is essentially nothing to wipe off. It is a dry lube (once the propellant evaporates) I would not open the action of a gun, squirt in a bunch of frog lube, cycle the action a few times and call it good. I would however do that with one shot. The same is true with the bore. I think both would work great for corrosion inhibition and lubrication but Frog Lube would take more time to apply and remove than One Shot. The Frog lube pours like cooking oil (rumor has it has its foundation in avocado oil) and needs to be wiped off where the One shot does not. On this subject an interesting follow up test would be to see if there's a difference between Frog lube and One Shot in how they deal with dirt and grit. Oil that remains on a surface collects and holds grit. The supposed advantage of a dry lube is it doesn't have as much of tendency to collect grit. So ... if you want to test this ... sprinkle some dry dirt on the surface of each test sample and see if there is a difference. Just a thought. BTW, good test. Thanks.
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Thanks for the efforts DIYguy.
It confirms what I've thought about FrogLube. By the way, it does come in a paste as well. In terms of cleaning performance, I wasn't as thorough as you were, but I did completely clean out a barrel of a pistol ( 1k rounds through it) and a rifle (about 50 rds through it) with my (formerly) usual regimen of Butch's bore shine and Montana Xtreme gun oil. After I got clean patches from the Butch's, I cleaned it with FrogLube and got more crud out as evidenced by the junk on the patches.
When I cleaned dirty barrels with the FrogLube first and then followed up with Butch's, I didn't get any dirty patches with the Butch's.
So, in my mind it seems to work as a cleaner as well. Plus, it's non-toxic.
anyway, thanks for the results.
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Outstanding. I appreciate an effort to uncover objective truth. That was one HECK of an effort!
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Thank you, very interesting and informative. This is worthy of sticky status for a time.
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Well done sir. I've always liked the Hornady One Shot products and now I'm a complete convert. Thanks again.
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Upon completion of this evaluation I sent emails to several of the manufacturers of the products used. Thus far (4 days after sending the emails) I have received only one reply and it came from the founders of Frog Lube. Here is that reply.
�Ron,
We are stunned by the exhaustive and comprehensive approach of your testing. And we are quite flattered at the result. You have done something no one else has done.
We do our testing in primarily in operating firearms, but we have done some technical tests such as the corrosion and lubricity testing and have seen the same results.
May we use this link to share with our customers on line and in our facebook page? We have lots of fans (and a few competitors) who would appreciate seeing this.
Also, we very much appreciate your 'objectivity' and your public claims. This strengthens the validity of your results.
Thanks again for sharing this profound work with us.
Larry Lasky & Stacy Lasky FrogLube Founders �
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I replied to them with the following:
�Feel free to share or distribute the info as you see fit. Prior to this evaluation I had never used Frog Lube (or many of the products I evaluated) so I was curious and ended up doing this evaluation. My search for lube and corrosion solution was not entirely firearms centric as I am more of an archer and bowhunter so I would like to make this request. Archery and Bowhunting are very large markets with direct overlap to firearms owners. The same holds true for the rapidly increasing crossbow and crossbowhunting market. All of these user groups require lubrication and corrosion solutions. The main difference for the bowhunting and crossbow hunting market is the scent/smell of products we use due to how close bowhunters and perhaps crossbow hunters have to get to prey to make a successful shot. The minty smell of Frog Lube may keep this user group from using your product. Would it be possible to remove the minty scent and create a scent free version? Breaking into the archery/bowhunting and crossbow hunting market would create another demographic purchasing your product. Please consider it. You would certainly have me as a customer for more than just firearms usage. Ron�
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It will be interesting to see if they take your suggestion seriously. IMO, they'd be wise to do so.
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The minty smell of Frog Lube may keep this user group from using your product. Would it be possible to remove the minty scent and create a scent free version? Well, that's pretty funny. I've never seen a bottle of Frog Lube, and had no idea that it smelled minty. "Minty Frog." Sounds like a flavor of Ben & Jerry's ice cream. But I will certainly try it on your recommendation.
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Upon completion of this evaluation I sent emails to several of the manufacturers of the products used. Thus far (4 days after sending the emails) I have received only one reply and it came from the founders of Frog Lube. Here is that reply.
�Ron,
We are stunned by the exhaustive and comprehensive approach of your testing. And we are quite flattered at the result. You have done something no one else has done.
We do our testing in primarily in operating firearms, but we have done some technical tests such as the corrosion and lubricity testing and have seen the same results.
May we use this link to share with our customers on line and in our facebook page? We have lots of fans (and a few competitors) who would appreciate seeing this.
Also, we very much appreciate your 'objectivity' and your public claims. This strengthens the validity of your results.
Thanks again for sharing this profound work with us.
Larry Lasky & Stacy Lasky FrogLube Founders �
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I replied to them with the following:
�Feel free to share or distribute the info as you see fit. Prior to this evaluation I had never used Frog Lube (or many of the products I evaluated) so I was curious and ended up doing this evaluation. My search for lube and corrosion solution was not entirely firearms centric as I am more of an archer and bowhunter so I would like to make this request. Archery and Bowhunting are very large markets with direct overlap to firearms owners. The same holds true for the rapidly increasing crossbow and crossbowhunting market. All of these user groups require lubrication and corrosion solutions. The main difference for the bowhunting and crossbow hunting market is the scent/smell of products we use due to how close bowhunters and perhaps crossbow hunters have to get to prey to make a successful shot. The minty smell of Frog Lube may keep this user group from using your product. Would it be possible to remove the minty scent and create a scent free version? Breaking into the archery/bowhunting and crossbow hunting market would create another demographic purchasing your product. Please consider it. You would certainly have me as a customer for more than just firearms usage. Ron� Almost sounds like a Frog Lube advertisement from this post.. If I didn't know better...
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Almost sounds like a Frog Lube advertisement from this post.. If I didn't know better... Im sure he has his saleman hat on when he emails people. I dont fault him for being pleased with the results of the evaluation. If at some point any of the other Mfrg's I sent emails to reply, I will post them as well.
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Its been 288 hours (12 days) since Board #1 was placed outside and 264 hours (11 days) for Board #2 so I thought I would update. There has been some rain this week but lots of sun and wind and the trees are spreading all manner of pollen and debris in the air. The Sun�s UV rays have all but made the sharpie marker unreadable but I have a map and can still make it out enough to see. Here are the two boards where they are residing on the patio. And here are the close-ups of the samples. As for Board #3 in my house. Its been 240 hours (10 days) and as expected, the indoor protection in a constant environment has them all still in fine shape.
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May have to give the WD-40 Specialist and Hornady One Shot a try. I've been using Rem Oil for the last 20 years or so. Thanks for posting all the results. Great Thread & very helpfull.
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20 years tells me Rem oil has served you well.
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great study!
In your next test, please include Krylon flat black. I dont think so. I think you read the wrong evaluation. Save me the trouble and tell me how it works after you spray it into your guns inner workings. Make sure to do all your guns at once so its a fair evaluation. Include the inside of the bore as well. SMDH With your background, I figured you'd know that Krylon would be an external protectant and inappropriate as a lube. It'd be interesting to see the results of a bolt gun sprayed with these products and put in and out of a freezer for a few days allowing them to frost up and then test cold-function.
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Cool story Bro. Let us know how it works out for you.
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Frog Lube is a bad ass product.
Fire Clean is more bad asser IMO.
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The demo video looks badasser too. Did you eat it?
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