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The demo video looks badasser too. Did you eat it? Not yet. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Add me to the lot of lads appreciating your study/testing, DIY. Thank you.
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Once again, excellent review.
I've used Frog Lube paste in the last couple months and have been very impressed with the lubricating qualities. For anyone who cares, it's also bio-based, USDA approved, Made In The USA, and the company was founded by a retired Navy SEAL.
One comment regarding the corrosion test, my guess is some samples showed rust faster without the salt spray due to slightly acidic rainwater in your area. I could be wrong though.
I'm going to find some WD-40 Specialist for my shop!
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It's amazing to me how one person could spend this much of their time and publish it free for the common good of others, and somebody's first thought is to make fun of it.
I guess I need to work on my sense of humor also. Thanks again for your efforts, I have several of your posts saved. Couldn't agree more Thanks for the hard work and the time it took to post all the info. I'd be curious to see how Ultra Gun Shield would hold up? https://www.24hourcampfire.com/cata...;osCsid=ca7a404e7201da2fdda06f45c1f76bd5
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I am impressed that someone has the time to do such a thorough works. I am envious. Nice job.
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We have been experiencing torrential rains and flash flooding. When it isn�t raining its very humid. Its certainly been a wet spring. The UV rays have now completely erased the sharpie marker labels on the boards but I know which is which from prior photos. Here is a picture of the two boards with board #1 at 15 days (360 hours) and board #2 at 14 days (336 hours). The top 3 performing products are continuing to protect the steel plates.
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Color me impressed. Thanks for the effort and valuable info.
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Great work. I bet your wife would like her patio table back now.
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Upon completion of this evaluation I sent emails to several of the manufacturers of the products used. Thus far (4 days after sending the emails) I have received only one reply and it came from the founders of Frog Lube. Here is that reply.
�Ron,
We are stunned by the exhaustive and comprehensive approach of your testing. And we are quite flattered at the result. You have done something no one else has done.
We do our testing in primarily in operating firearms, but we have done some technical tests such as the corrosion and lubricity testing and have seen the same results.
May we use this link to share with our customers on line and in our facebook page? We have lots of fans (and a few competitors) who would appreciate seeing this.
Also, we very much appreciate your 'objectivity' and your public claims. This strengthens the validity of your results.
Thanks again for sharing this profound work with us.
Larry Lasky & Stacy Lasky FrogLube Founders �
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I replied to them with the following:
�Feel free to share or distribute the info as you see fit. Prior to this evaluation I had never used Frog Lube (or many of the products I evaluated) so I was curious and ended up doing this evaluation. My search for lube and corrosion solution was not entirely firearms centric as I am more of an archer and bowhunter so I would like to make this request. Archery and Bowhunting are very large markets with direct overlap to firearms owners. The same holds true for the rapidly increasing crossbow and crossbowhunting market. All of these user groups require lubrication and corrosion solutions. The main difference for the bowhunting and crossbow hunting market is the scent/smell of products we use due to how close bowhunters and perhaps crossbow hunters have to get to prey to make a successful shot. The minty smell of Frog Lube may keep this user group from using your product. Would it be possible to remove the minty scent and create a scent free version? Breaking into the archery/bowhunting and crossbow hunting market would create another demographic purchasing your product. Please consider it. You would certainly have me as a customer for more than just firearms usage. Ron� I hope they asked for your address to send you some swag.
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Great work. I bet your wife would like her patio table back now. With the constant rains she has not longed for the great outdoors.
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I hope they asked for your address to send you some swag. To accept anything would be improper and cause concerns for integrity. I plan further evaluations and don�t want there to be any hint of impropriety.
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I tried to find some One Shot this weekend due to this test, but unfortunately was unable to find any. The WD-40 Specialist stuff will definitely be getting used around the shop too. I'd seen it but never payed much attention, never expected it to be this good. The Ultra Gun Shield is one I'd love to see tested as well, as its a different type of product than most commonly used gun care products. It seems like a good product, but then I thought a few of the ones you tested would have fared much better so you never know. Thanks for putting in the effort.
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Thanks DIY! Good data to be sure without interference from the manufacturer. Props to your wife as well for putting up with the evaluation. Tag.
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She understands just how lucky she is so she does not complain.
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Awesome test. Biggest surprise to me was all of the top three were none I had ever heard of. Ones I've purchased in the past (Ballistol, Breakfree CLP) that were winners in other tests only came out middle-of-the-road here. And I like your idea for testing lubricity, very clever.
While I haven't seen Frog Lube on any shelf I did notice that the local Sportsmans Warehouse carries the Hornady One-Shot gun cleaner/dry lubricant. I'll be grabbing some of that and some WD-40 for non-gun related uses.
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If you do more testing, might want to include the "Bull Frog" rust preventer line. (Actually I thought that's who produced the Frog Lube that did so well, but see it is an entirely different company)
Bullfrog has an advertising display where steelwool has been treated with it and is in a jar of water and hasn't rusted in the year or so it's been on display. I've always been curious to see an independent test of their products.
Thanks for all your effort and the detailed results.
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Its been 20 days since I started board #3 which is the indoor board with the (hotdog) fingerprint. The first (and only) sample so far to exhibit corrosion has appeared. The rust is only in the fingerprint area. The sample plate is the one coated with Eezox. For all the positive comments about Eezox, it has been a complete disappointment in lubricity and corrosion resistance.
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Update on the two outdoors corrosion boards. Hornady One shot has finally failed on Board #2 Leaving Frog Lube and WD 40 Specialist but the Hornady product is still going strong on board #1.
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looks to me like the frog lube is begining to fail on the bottom edge of board 1. i believe you have a winner.
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yes but the foam is now water soaked and quite heavy. THe portions of the metal plates contancting that foam are essentially under water so the contact line is not only always wet but has the potential to wear off the lube so all pates got a pass for any corrosion forming at that point.
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