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I am in the process of designing an experiment, process and device to do further lubricity evaluations on these products. The first evaluation was for the coefficient of �static� friction but I fear it was lacking (even though it was a reasonable side by side evaluation) so Im working on evaluating �dynamic� friction forces. The long holiday weekend should provide me with time to get this going.
Static coefficient of friction was pretty straight forward with the weighted sled and the addition of water to eventually break free the friction forces between the two metal plates but I am devising a constant motion evaluation so I can capture the friction forces between two metal plates that are continually moving to gauge lubricity of the products as well as wear over a great duration than the static friction evaluation.
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Ive completed the device I assembled and plan to use to measure dynamic friction forces. There are some refinements I need to make but I think the concept is pretty straight forward.
In the coming days I will evaluate the friction reducing properties of the products I have previously evaluated for lubricity and corrosion resistance. That's cool. Really appreciate the work and my bottle of Frog CLP arrived this week. Looking forward to a real-world test in Sept in Newfoundland.
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Actually record players are from the past (and hard to come by these days) I got the idea from ET and his "phone home" device that used a record player and saw blade.
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Here is an update on the corrosion boards after 43 and 42 days outside. The last three samples on board #1 are about to give up. Board #2 samples are all finished. Every sample is showing corrosion. The indoor samples (after 41 days) are showing more failures. (Only in the thumb print area) Rust prevent, WD 40 regular), Militech1, Strike hold, Archoil, 3 In One iol, Kroil, Hoppe's MDL. Mil Poro 7 have now failed along with the others that had failed earlier.
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As mentioned earlier I put together a device to capture the dynamic coefficient of friction for all the products I have previously evaluated (including a static friction evaluation) Ive tabulated the results and they are similar to those of the static coefficient of friction evaluation. Here is a video showing how the evaluation was conducted and how excess lube actually worsens or confounds our attempts to make metal slide easier against one another. The video will show that only in the absolute minimalist state do the gun lubes actually reduce the friction/drag forces. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5LeeIfvLm0All the products were run through the friction device and the chart below shows how each product performed in comparison to one another as well as dry steel (no lube at all)
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After 62 days the outdoor evaluation has concluded. This past June was one of the rainiest on record. I did not post the failure date of the last three products on the date of the failure so I could lump them together. Here are the final products to show corrosion. Frog Lube after 54 days Hornady One Shot after 58 days and WD 40 Specialist at 62 days. The indoor evaluation is still on-going.
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I'm sure it's a great read but I wouldn't spend that much time on the phone with a good friend that is contemplating suicide. +1. I JUST 5 minutes ago was made aware of this thread. The man did a magnificent job presenting all the data, but I would suggest that IF anyone has the time to read all of this, well mister, you have WAY too much free time.
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He's moved on.... Working up a miracle whip spreadsheet.
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DIYguy,
Thank you TONS for doing this report and posting it. I read it before, but failed to give the credit and kudo's that I should have back in May and June. AWESOME job, sir. Very useful and informative.
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I think they runned DIYguy off awhile back.
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