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For a tactical carbine intended for serious work, which do you prefer and why?
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The Aimpoint has withstood several explosions in it's immediate vicinity and kept on functioning. It's built like a tank.
It stays "on" without needing a new battery for years. Brightness is superb and can be adjusted upwards to whatever is needed.
The EoTech? For older eyes, I much would prefer it with it's 65 encircling the 1 image to pick up easily. It's not in the same ballpark as far as battery life with the Aimpoint nor is it as durable.
The Aimpoint H1's and T1's are really small and lightweight.
Gosh, get both.
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The Aimpoint has withstood several explosions in it's immediate vicinity and kept on functioning. It's built like a tank.
It stays "on" without needing a new battery for years. Brightness is superb and can be adjusted upwards to whatever is needed.
The EoTech? For older eyes, I much would prefer it with it's 65 encircling the 1 image to pick up easily. It's not in the same ballpark as far as battery life with the Aimpoint nor is it as durable.
The Aimpoint H1's and T1's are really small and lightweight.
Gosh, get both.
I've had an Eotech on my M-4 pattern AR for seven or eight years now. Never had an AimPoint, though. I just bought a Bushmaster ACR Enhanced, and have to start thinking about mounting an optic. Leaning towards an AimPoint. I'll look into the H1 and T1. What are the differences between the H1 and T1?
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As to the H1 and the T1, one is night vision compatible and the other is not. Night vision model obviously cost more and it works in line concert with a night vision device.
When I said bomb proof, I was referring to the Aimpoint Comp 2 and Aimpoint Comp 4 models used extensively in our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Aimpoint H1 and Aimpoint T1 are tiny compared to the Aimpoint Comps so I don't know if they would handle a grenade.
But that's why some love them because they are so small yet still afford one the view and sized MOA dot they want.
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I love the Eotech reticle have shot them but hate to turn them on when needed. If they would make an Eotech that would turn on when the rifle moved I would buy it because I shoot them better. My T1 stays on all the time, replace the battery once a year. When you need the carbine, slap the bolt release while shouldering the carbine and your ready to pull the trigger. I like the small aimpoints OK as well, I got rid of my bigger CompML. The tiny ones just look at and around the sight and not thru it 4MOA works fine for anything I want to shoot with one. I got the T1 on the off chance I might get NV monocular.
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My wife is the AR shooter in my family
She has 4 AR rifles
3 wear Aimpoints atop DD risers
About 3 months ago one wore an Eotech.......
After a couple hundred rounds she said it had to go
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So if I got the H1, is the mount that comes with it going to line it up to co-witness with my Magpul flip-up MBUS sights?
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My wife is the AR shooter in my family
She has 4 AR rifles
3 wear Aimpoints atop DD risers
About 3 months ago one wore an Eotech.......
After a couple hundred rounds she said it had to go Daniel Defense? Why a riser?
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Nope......the base it comes with is very short
The DD is lower 1/3 for your irons
The riser gives you comfortable cheek weld
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Nope......the base it comes with is very short
The DD is lower 1/3 for your irons
The riser gives you comfortable cheek weld I think they have a full co-witness base for it, too. With flip ups, that's not an issue, as they stay out of the way anyway.
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Whatever floats your boat
She likes lower 1/3 but prefers no steel in her eyes
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I believe it was a T1 on board the Daniel Defense Larry Vickers threw from a helicopter, dropped out of a moving jeep and blew up with a little more explosive than was needed. The electronics are designed for extreme duty, the size is easy to live with, battery life is unreal and a solid dot is simple to use. I preferred a lower 1/3rd cowitness mount myself and used LaRues mount. I wanted a QD mount cause even though I can shoot the flip up irons through the sight, I preferred to take it off when practicing with the irons. I've had a few eo-thingies too and usually wound up changing batteries too often. They have some newer models that are GTG but I think the Aimpoint is a better sight. To me a red dot is for close range, fast shootin. I don't see the need for the special reticle, just put the dot on it and press the trigger. That's what red dot is for.
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Haven't most "Evolved" on to ACOG's now. Have to define the specific use per Nutnfancy. Home defense, street fight, open fields, house to house, etc. Couldn't help it. Sorry I have about given up on optics in a fluid situation. Give me my AC 556's govt, AK 74's, 47's, and we'll spray and pray 'til we get 'em.
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Haven't most "Evolved" on to ACOG's now. Have to define the specific use per Nutnfancy. Home defense, street fight, open fields, house to house, etc. Couldn't help it. Sorry You left out weekend dress up rifle range warrior supper tac
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It had a dual meaning. Half was a private joke between Hawkeye and myself while the other half with open sights I was half way serious about.
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LOL, I guess I have evolved to an ACOG and a 1-6 for tactical coyote shooting.
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I find the higher mounted sight faster to use, really has little to do with flip up sights.
LT659 (Tall, 1.725) for standard AR15 / M16 / M4 uppers
Medium provides absolute co-witness.
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I like Aimpoint but have never used an eotech.
My friends son told me when he got back from Iraq that an IED knocked his M4 out of his hands at high speed down the highway. He was able to grab it back up after it bounced down the highway for 100 yards. Next day at range; no change on the Aimpoint, no adjustments needed, functioned flawlessly.
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Aimpoint Micro or Trijicon ACOG for extended ranges.
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