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Yesterday my BIL and I went to the lease to check a few feeders. The feeders normally fire at 5:00, but it was after 5:00 before we got there and all but one had fired. The one that didn't fire had been assaulted by a band of raccoons that somehow got the top off the feeder and totally messed up the timer. They're next on the list!

Anyway, it was about 6:30 when we finally made it to the blinds. My BIL took a tree stand overlooking a feeder, and I set up a small ground blind - well, not really a blind: I just sat behind a young pine tree to break up my outline - 46 yards from a feeder that sits on the edge of a gas line right-of-way. I wanted to try his shooting sticks, so instead of sitting in a stand I sat on a camp stool behind the pine tree.

The mosquitos were out in force (it is Florida, after all), and the dove and squirrels had moved in to forage some of the scattered corn. I learned a long time ago to pay close attention to them as they will be the first to tell you when pigs are on their way. About 7:25, with about 45 minutes of shooting light left, the dove and squirrels scattered so I knew a pig was coming in. Dove and squirrels don't generally run when turkey come in, and the deer never bother with the corn, so it could only be either pigs or raccoons.

This time it was pigs: three of them, all the same size (about 60-65 pounds), one black sow and two gray boar. I'd seen one of the boar before and recognized him as being the one with the gimp right foreleg. He'd evidently broken it at the elbow at some point, and although it had healed it was still a bit stiff. But it never seemed to slow him down. I'd spooked him before, and he was every bit as fast as his brother and sister. I decided he would be the one I'd take.

Once under the feeder he never would turn broadside to me, so I knew I was going to have to take the shot as he rooted for the corn on the ground. He would turn his head to the left briefly, pick up a kernel, then turn back facing forward. The only clear shot I had was of his backside, and I had no interest in driving the bullet up through his spine, so when he finally turned to the left again to pick up a kernel I took the shot.

The bullet entered just behind the left ear, a little higher than I would have liked, and exited through his forehead. He hit the ground and never made a sound (a good sign of a DRT hit), only pumped his legs a few time as pigs often do. At the shot, the other two pigs disappeared. But they'll be back. Their bellies always get the best of them.

By the way, the Primo Bipod Shooting Sticks (trigger activated) work very, very well in a ground blind. I've ordered a set for myself.

Here's a shot at the young boar:

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Here's the entry wound:

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Entry and exit (M70Fwt, 7x57, 139gr Prvi SP):

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That should be good eatin size!

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Yeah, he'll cook up pretty well.


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and another one bite's he dust. Good on ya' Oughta be tasty.

Coupla thoughts.

Sometimes on the small porkers I'll clean them, then while they're hanging, use a sawz-all and split them longways along the backbone. Season them and throw both halves on the pit. Or put one half in a large browning bag, slather with your favorite mix and bake at 250 until it's fall off the bone tender.

Now as to deterring coons.........

I've seen guys take a 6 foot piece of 4" pvc and put on the feeder legs. When the coons try to climb, the pipe rotates and the can't get to the spinner plate.

I use coon cages

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works on the coons

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Sometimes have pix of two hanging from the cage trying to pull it down.

Determined and persistant critters.

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We cannot use tripod feeders on our property, because the bears knock them over, which usually causes damage.
We hang ours 10 ft off the ground between trees.

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Originally Posted by geedubya
works on the coons

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Sometimes have pix of two hanging from the cage trying to pull it down.

Determined and persistant critters.

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Thanks, G; determined and persistent they are. Love the pic of one hanging from the cage. That fellow is an acrobat. Almost all of our feeders look like this. We don't have to sheet all of them, but those with coons close by get the "aluminum" treatment. The few we have hanging from oak trees, well, we're just going to have to remount them on free standing frames like this one.

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Nice size eating pig easy to drag too.

Ratcoons make great archery targets if you bow hunt just keep both eyes open ,you can climb a tree 15 yards above them -they pay no attention to human scent. Also I enjoy taking my cz 22 and popping them with a CCI Quiet 22lr round I do it the night I fill feeders because hogs won't come in that night anyway -around here at least -panama city beach area.
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grease on the tripod legs will also discourage the coons


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I hang mine between trees on a cable and use a handwinch mounted low on one of the trees to lower and raise the feeder.
I install pvc pipe on the cable on both sides of the feeder.
Discourages most of the accrobats.

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Originally Posted by TBREW401
I hang mine between trees on a cable and use a handwinch mounted low on one of the trees to lower and raise the feeder.
I install pvc pipe on the cable on both sides of the feeder.
Discourages most of the accrobats.


We supplement feed on the ranch I hunt in FL and use a similar setup.

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Otherwise, the little bandits have a field day with the protein feeder cans.

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Where are you located in FL Rev?


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East coast, near Sebastian. You?


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Same, Vero. Hunt the Pressley ranch near Yeehaw junction.


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Vero. My favorite place.


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Great pictures MCT3 !

I might have to get some panels and make a deer/turkey set-up like that. The hogs run off everything except the ratcoons and squirrels. Nice buck.


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Originally Posted by ol_mike
Great pictures MCT3 !

I might have to get some panels and make a deer/turkey set-up like that. The hogs run off everything except the ratcoons and squirrels. Nice buck.



Ditto that.

At one time I kept two pens set up with protein in demand feeders.
And no Mariah, we did not shoot animals out of these pens or even in the general vicinity. They were for supplemental feeding on a 3,000 acre low fenced/no fenced ranch.

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IIRC this one the owner of the ranch called Hartford.

He was like a Dr. Doolittle. Had lived there since 1961. Didn't use A/C or heat or watch TV. Would go to town once every two weeks.
He would name all his critters. Had two big boars that would come up and eat out of his hand. One was named Jimmy Dean, the other Gorgeous. No hunting was allowed on this part of the ranch. I would get a kick out of riding with him in his truck when he'd go out. He'd have a 5 gallon bucket of corn next to him in the seat. He'd stop at particular spots, bang a coffee can on the side of the truck and strow corn out the window. Within a couple minutes there would be fallow deer, sika deer, blackbuck antelope, white-tail does and a sounder of hoglets chomping down.

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Funny stuff ..
How high should the fence be so our small florida deer can get in ?


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Hog panel works. It keeps the shoats out. They go right through the 6 x 6 wire mesh panels and hoover the corn right up. Three foot would be good enough to keep hogs out. Forty or so inches will do if you've got cows. I run tee posts into the ground and run a stand of barbed wire along the bottom and the top. Stretch the bottom tight to keep hogs from digging under. Top is for insurance if you got cows. If you got elk, buffalo or a big Brahma bull, you're SOL. If you've got horses you need a pen also as they can reach up and tongue the spinner plate. Four horses will empty a 350 pound feeder in two weeks.
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Really fine pics! Looks like Prancer, Donder, and Blitzen on summer vacation!


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Originally Posted by ol_mike
Funny stuff ..
How high should the fence be so our small florida deer can get in ?


Vero Beach here also, transplanted from the keys via PA.
Never fired a shot in Florida as i prefer some distance for my hunting.
So the steep ridges and wide valleys of N C PA still get all my attention.
As for the small Florida deer, pick up a copy of the june issue of florida
sportsman magazine or go on line and read the deer article. It just might
change you thinking on that.

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Originally Posted by ol_mike
Great pictures MCT3 !

I might have to get some panels and make a deer/turkey set-up like that. The hogs run off everything except the ratcoons and squirrels. Nice buck.


Nice pics GWB....really nice axis bucks.

Ol mike - Thanks. I've got hundreds of theses pics showing some pretty cool interactions between various animals. Our fences are about 4ft high. The deer clear them with ease. This property is a cattle ranch and GWB is right, it's a good height to keep the cows out.
You mention the hogs running everything off. I've seen our Turkey's (Osceola's) run hogs out from under a scatter feeder on more than one occasion.


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Funny stuff ..
How high should the fence be so our small florida deer can get in ?


Vero Beach here also, transplanted from the keys via PA.
Never fired a shot in Florida as i prefer some distance for my hunting.
So the steep ridges and wide valleys of N C PA still get all my attention.
As for the small Florida deer, pick up a copy of the june issue of florida
sportsman magazine or go on line and read the deer article. It just might
change you thinking on that.


Very cool and welcome to Vero. There is a lot of great hunting around here and west to Okeechobee. I've been here about 15 yrs and hunting FL took some getting used to.....having grown up hunting the mountains of VA. There are some quality deer in this area of FL. Here's a pic of one of the nicer bucks that I've taken in this area.

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MCT3,

nice buck.

Sounds like you guys got it goin' on.

Good on ya'!

I for one would luv to see any pix you wanted to post of the country you hunt, the way ya'll do things and any game cam pix you wanted to post.

I very much enjoy seeing how others do things.

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No problem GWB. I too enjoy seeing pics and you've posted some great ones from Texas.

We have a lot a variety on this cattle ranch - oak flats, pine flats with lots of open palmetto areas and swampy, cedar areas.

Here's a pic I took from my climber over looking a winter food plot.

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Took this buck that day with a 260 at about 200 yds

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Some cam pics:

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that buck is the mount you showed is it not?

I do like the 260 cartridge among others. I shoot a 130 gr.
Accubond out of mine.

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I'm amazed that the cows and hogs don't knock over that low feeder. All of mine are on 10' EMT legs and each leg has two pieces or #4 x 2' rebar driven into the ground then wired with tie wire.

Also quite diverse topography. Our country is so rocky that a food plot would involve a major expense......

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and irrigation. lol

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Yes it is. Nice country. Sako 260?

We've converted more to food plots which do well in FL as price of feed is getting prohibitive. Occasionally the feeders would get knocked over but it has never been too much of a problem.

The creek swamps offer some good fishing as well. My son is my guide now.

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The Seminole indians inhabited this land at one time. One of the cool things about this ranch is some of the artifacts that you find and a lot of the small groves, grapefruits, oranges, tangerines that they planted in the middle of some of swampy areas are still flourishing. We harvest some fruit from them every year.


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Looks like ya'll have your own slice of heaven.

Good stuff.

Yes,sir, Sako 75 Varmint. Love the set trigger.

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I'll post tonight's adventure tomorrow after a Jack Daniels and a good night's sleep. But another east coast Florida boar fell to the old 7x57 this evening.


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Till then.

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I'll post tonight's adventure tomorrow after a Jack Daniels and a good night's sleep. But another east coast Florida boar fell to the old 7x57 this evening.


Yesterday afternoon, my BIL and I went to the lease to fill the feeders and check on a few things. It was hot, and by the time we finished it was almost 6:00 p.m. and still around 90 degrees in spite of a thunderstorm moving through. Luckily, it went just to the west of us and we didn't get drenched as is so often the case this time of year. The ground lightning kept things interesting, though.

A little after 6:00 I dropped BIL at a ground blind and headed to a stand about 3/4 mile north. You can barely see the feeder in the picture below, just at the end of a natural shooting lane. Note the two small palmettos on either side where the lane narrows. That is exactly 23 yards from the stand. The feeder is another 15 or so yards beyond that.

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I sat watching a few squirrels nibble on some corn when a raccoon came in and began to eat. There was enough corn on the ground that he didn't feel like he needed to attack the feeder so I let him eat. He was going to be my signal when something bigger started to move in.

At about 7:35 I saw him freeze, look to the north, then scamper up a tree. I looked to my right and there was a pig moving towards the corn, but before he got there he disappeared into a myrtle thicket. Something spooked him. I know he didn't see or hear me, and while it's possible he smelled me - you gotta use a lot of DEET this time of year - I don't think so as I was far enough away and the wind wasn't blowing his way. But for whatever reason he never came back.

The racoon came back down the tree to eat, and just after 8:00, with shooting light fading, I texted my BIL to tell him I was climbing down. I'd no more hit "send" when the coon went back up the tree. I sat back down and about two minutes later five pigs, all in the 85-90 pound range, came in from my left. Oddly enough, they didn't head to the feeder but instead, crossed the lane single file just on the other side of those two small palmettos in the picture. The first pig, a brown one with black spots, started across, stopped for an instant, then continued on. The next pig, identical to the first, did the same. I had my rifle up with the crosshairs on where the third pig would cross. It did the very same thing as the first two, but when it hesitated I pulled the trigger. Once again, the old 7x57 did as expected.

Here's the boar, showing the entry wound.

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Here's the exit wound.

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As usual, the CNS shot anchored the pig where he stood. No tracking required.

My wife told me that I'm killing them faster than she can cook them. I told her they're reproducing faster than I can kill them. All in all, it ain't a bad way to spend a summer evening.


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Great job Rev.....keep hammering them! I'd love to see a pic of that ole 7x57.


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That shot will do it every time. By the look of that country ya'll probably have rattlers and or cotton-mouths. Seems like one would want to be careful where he placed his foot.

Great story, I can picture it in my mind.

I know it ain't hunting elk after humping 20 miles in, but it sure ain't a bad way to spend an evening.

I'm hoping to go to my place on the 19th. It will have been almost a month since I pulled the trigger on a critter and my SDD (shooting deficit disorder) is starting to make me itch, scratch and bite.

Question fer ya'll, do you ever use a thermo-cell to ward off mosquitios and gnats. I use one here, mainly in bow season when it can be in the high nineties.

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Originally Posted by MCT3
Great job Rev.....keep hammering them! I'd love to see a pic of that ole 7x57.


Thanks. It's the cartridge that's old. The rifle, not so much.

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That shot will do it every time. By the look of that country ya'll probably have rattlers and or cotton-mouths. Seems like one would want to be careful where he placed his foot.

Great story, I can picture it in my mind.

I know it ain't hunting elk after humping 20 miles in, but it sure ain't a bad way to spend an evening.

I'm hoping to go to my place on the 19th. It will have been almost a month since I pulled the trigger on a critter and my SDD (shooting deficit disorder) is starting to make me itch, scratch and bite.

Question fer ya'll, do you ever use a thermo-cell to ward off mosquitios and gnats. I use one here, mainly in bow season when it can be in the high nineties.

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We call it "going to group therapy" when it's just to the range; but I like SDD when the itch to take a pig needs scratched. I just bought a Therma-cell last week, but haven't had a chance to use it yet. Everyone I know swears by them. After a while DEET makes stuff go numb!


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Thanks. It's the cartridge that's old. The rifle, not so much.

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7x57's come and go, all that is except this one.

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A friend who was an itenerant gun-crank built it. Mauser 96 action, douglas air gauged barrel, timney trigger.
The guy that built it hand carved (so he says) the stock out of Mesquite. It is a shooter. I pretty much load 140's in all my other 7's, but 150 gr. ballistic tips is what it feed this.


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Very nice Win 70 in a great cartridge to boot!

GWB beat me to it. I started using a Thermacell a few years ago....works great when you are going to be stationary for awhile. It's been a game changer.
It's miserably hot and humid already and the time of day Rev was out when he shot his hog is when the mosquitos, Horse flys and No-See-Ums are out in force.


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Originally Posted by MCT3

It's miserably hot and humid already and the time of day Rev was out when he shot his hog is when the mosquitos, Horse flys and No-See-Ums are out in force.


Although its hot in the hill country I've hunted near the Texas gulf coast all my life. It can be 100 degrees in September and October and the humidity be 95%. Sitting in a Tri-pod 8 foot off the ground in long legged and long sleeve synthetic leafy wear cammo with necessary face mask and gloves with not a puff of breeze and sweat trickling down your back between your shoulders and into your eyes, glasses fogging up and trying to ignore the biting flies while waiting, waiting waiting waiting then seeing a doe coming in, coming to full draw, she gets hung up, your muscles are burning and then she gets your wind, snorts, flag goes up and poof..........



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Very nice Win 70 in a great cartridge to boot!

GWB beat me to it. I started using a Thermacell a few years ago....works great when you are going to be stationary for awhile. It's been a game changer.
It's miserably hot and humid already and the time of day Rev was out when he shot his hog is when the mosquitos, Horse flys and No-See-Ums are out in force.


Danged old yellow flies were out too. They'll drive you insane. Thermacell work on them?


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Originally Posted by geedubya
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It's miserably hot and humid already and the time of day Rev was out when he shot his hog is when the mosquitos, Horse flys and No-See-Ums are out in force.


Although its hot in the hill country I've hunted near the Texas gulf coast all my life. It can be 100 degrees in September and October and the humidity be 95%. Sitting in a Tri-pod 8 foot off the ground in long legged and long sleeve synthetic leafy wear cammo with necessary face mask and gloves with not a puff of breeze and sweat trickling down your back between your shoulders and into your eyes, glasses fogging up and trying to ignore the biting flies while waiting, waiting waiting waiting then seeing a doe coming in, coming to full draw, she gets hung up, your muscles are burning and then she gets your wind, snorts, flag goes up and poof..........



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Danged old yellow flies were out too. They'll drive you insane. Thermacell work on them?


Thermacells work. May not keep off chiggers and ticks, but work for everything else IMHO.

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Very nice Win 70 in a great cartridge to boot!

GWB beat me to it. I started using a Thermacell a few years ago....works great when you are going to be stationary for awhile. It's been a game changer.
It's miserably hot and humid already and the time of day Rev was out when he shot his hog is when the mosquitos, Horse flys and No-See-Ums are out in force.


Danged old yellow flies were out too. They'll drive you insane. Thermacell work on them?


Yes! Give the Thermacell about 15 mins and you can sit in the swamp pretty much unmolested.....at least from the flying, biting insects.


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Yes! Give the Thermacell about 15 mins and you can sit in the swamp pretty much unmolested.....at least from the flying, biting insects.


You can count on that because even the DEET isn't enough - and I'm using 98%! sick


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Originally Posted by geedubya
By the look of that country ya'll probably have rattlers and or cotton-mouths. Seems like one would want to be careful where he placed his foot.


Sure do!

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You guys seeing many Rattlers on your place? We've definitely been seeing more big ones the last few years.

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The east side is a piney sand ridge, and they really like that, so yeah, we see a few.

When I come across one I might as well go home since I'll be hunting snakes for the rest of the day.


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That's a big'un.


I've hunted the Texas hill country for 15 years now. Seen only two rattlers on the four leases I've been on
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However we had a place in east Texas between 1961 and 2007 Four acre lake and a mile of frontage on Peach Creek. Moccasins, rattlers, coral snakes, and copperheads were the poisonous varieties. Tons of cotton-mouth moccasins. One thing about them (moccasins) is that many times, especially on the water, when you got near them you could smell a rotten-egg/putrifaction smell. You knew then you were getting too close.
Over the years it seemed I developed almost a sixth sense when it came to snakes. I'd be walking along a path hunting squirrels. Don't know whether ya'll still hunt or not. My grandfather taught me to walk a few steps, then stop for five minutes or so, then walk a few more steps then stop again for an interval. Slip along quiet and slow, especially under white oaks with a canopy. Many times you would see them moving before they would see you, or you'd hear them cutting acorns or pine cones. I'd use my grandfather's Winchester 63. Nailed many a squirrel. Any how back to snakes. I'd be slipping along looking up and the next thing I'd know I'd get a feeling and either jump back or take a leap forward. Almost always would be a snake that I'd have stepped on in the pathway. Can't tell ya' how many times that happened.

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That's a big'un.


I've hunted the Texas hill country for 15 years now. Seen only two rattlers on the four leases I've been on

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No problem GWB. I too enjoy seeing pics and you've posted some great ones from Texas.

We have a lot a variety on this cattle ranch - oak flats, pine flats with lots of open palmetto areas and swampy, cedar areas.

Here's a pic I took from my climber over looking a winter food plot.

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How are you keeping the pigs out of those plots? And glad to know there's another .260 in Indian River County!


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By the look of that country ya'll probably have rattlers and or cotton-mouths. Seems like one would want to be careful where he placed his foot.


Sure do!

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You guys seeing many Rattlers on your place? We've definitely been seeing more big ones the last few years.

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As for coons, don't you guys just get some coon cuff traps and anchor them to a big log? That way when ya catch a coon, the hogs come by and kill the coon and eat it? Two bird with one stone it seems. (1) Kill the coon, (2) get rid of the coon without even touching it, (3) might make good hog bait! No? Some here shoot coons over a bear bait and in a few days those coons are eaten.


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sounds like a plan.

I'd invest in some.

Been planning to buy some foot hold traps and get started trying to trap coyotes while I'm there. All of a sudden we have three packs.

Any particular brand of coon cuffs you recommend.


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Originally Posted by RevMike

How are you keeping the pigs out of those plots? And glad to know there's another .260 in Indian River County!


We can't....free range for hogs, deer, cattle, or whatever else. The plots survive pretty well, despite.

Yeah, I really like my 260 and 6.5x55's. I also have a Win 70 FWT but in a different metric than yours, swede that likes 140gr NPT's.

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As for coons, don't you guys just get some coon cuff traps and anchor them to a big log? That way when ya catch a coon, the hogs come by and kill the coon and eat it? Two bird with one stone it seems. (1) Kill the coon, (2) get rid of the coon without even touching it, (3) might make good hog bait! No? Some here shoot coons over a bear bait and in a few days those coons are eaten.


Very interesting. We use coon cuff traps but I've never seen a hog eat a coon. I was telling Rev that one of the land owners has a friend who likes trapping. He was running coon cuff traps daily for several weeks. He was just focusing on a 1000 acre area of the ranch and trapped 90 coons in a 2 week period. I don't know what brand he uses or if he makes his own....I'll ask next time I see him.


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Yeah, I really like my 260 and 6.5x55's. I also have a Win 70 FWT but in a different metric than yours, swede that likes 140gr NPT's.

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Thermo cell is awesome. The best $20 you'll ever spend.
Here in Florida it is a necessity.
Permetherin works well for ticks.
Wearing boots, or gaiters, is the only thing that works for chiggers.

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Thermo cell is awesome.


I'll definitely be firing it up the next time I'm in the stand.


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Another nice pig Revmike ..

I too love the 260 -have a model seven stainless -great little cartridge.

At first glance I thought that plot was a golf coarse -laf.


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A few of us went to the camp yesterday to do some work around the cabin. We cleared palmetto off the lakeshore, built a new generator shed, and put a new floor in the outdoor shower. It was mid-afternoon by the time we finished, and rest of the guys decided to get cleaned up and settle in for the evening. I decide on a late afternoon hunt.

About 4:00 the skies opened up and we had one of our usual summer afternoon thunderstorms, but by 5:30 it had slacked off enough to drive to the stands. I headed north to check out one of the feeders on a gas line right-of-way, and when I got there three hen turkeys were already there. They didn't hang around long and there was plenty of corn on the ground, so I decided to stay.

Since there wasn't any movement around the feeder, I decided to head north to check out another stand. I parked on the main road leading to the feeder, headed east across the right-of-way, and eased my way south of the oak from which the feeder hangs. I have killed pigs under that feeder before even making it to the stand.

This time, however, the feeder never fired. The raccoons had jimmied the latches on the feeder lid, knocked it off, and had helped themselves to some of the corn. As they did they also disconnected the wires from the battery, so the feeder hadn't fired. I'm going to put snaps on the latches this week!

I reconnected the battery, reset the timer, put everything back together and headed for the truck. As I was crossing the gas line, I noticed something under the first feeder I'd stopped at so I decide I would give it another try. As I turned the truck around and headed back out the access road, I spotted for 4 or 5 pigs standing together in the road. Evidently they were on their way to the feeder when they saw me, and froze when they saw my truck heading their way.

I stopped the truck and began to wonder how this was going to play itself out. If I waited too long, they would all be gone. If I opened the door with the truck running, the "dinging" of the key alarm would undoubtedly spook them. So I put the truck in park, took the key out of the ignition (so the key alarm wouldn't sound), and opened the door just enough to slip the rifle barrel between the door frame and the cab since we were facing one another head-on. All but one of the pigs slipped away. This sow stayed put. I had to take the shot left handed, but the old M94 once again did what it has done for the past 52 years: put meat in the pot.

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They say a wink is just as good as a nod to a blind horse.

An off- handed shot at a target of opportunity is better than one not taken. And as the pics prove ,sometimes a plan comes together.

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Originally Posted by geedubya
Hog panel works. It keeps the shoats out. They go right through the 6 x 6 wire mesh panels and hoover the corn right up. Three foot would be good enough to keep hogs out. Forty or so inches will do if you've got cows. I run tee posts into the ground and run a stand of barbed wire along the bottom and the top. Stretch the bottom tight to keep hogs from digging under. Top is for insurance if you got cows. If you got elk, buffalo or a big Brahma bull, you're SOL. If you've got horses you need a pen also as they can reach up and tongue the spinner plate. Four horses will empty a 350 pound feeder in two weeks.
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Originally Posted by geedubya
That's a big'un.


I've hunted the Texas hill country for 15 years now. Seen only two rattlers on the four leases I've been on
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However we had a place in east Texas between 1961 and 2007 Four acre lake and a mile of frontage on Peach Creek. Moccasins, rattlers, coral snakes, and copperheads were the poisonous varieties. Tons of cotton-mouth moccasins. One thing about them (moccasins) is that many times, especially on the water, when you got near them you could smell a rotten-egg/putrifaction smell. You knew then you were getting too close.
Over the years it seemed I developed almost a sixth sense when it came to snakes. I'd be walking along a path hunting squirrels. Don't know whether ya'll still hunt or not. My grandfather taught me to walk a few steps, then stop for five minutes or so, then walk a few more steps then stop again for an interval. Slip along quiet and slow, especially under white oaks with a canopy. Many times you would see them moving before they would see you, or you'd hear them cutting acorns or pine cones. I'd use my grandfather's Winchester 63. Nailed many a squirrel. Any how back to snakes. I'd be slipping along looking up and the next thing I'd know I'd get a feeling and either jump back or take a leap forward. Almost always would be a snake that I'd have stepped on in the pathway. Can't tell ya' how many times that happened.

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I do the same with a 63 in the switch cane and palmetto bottoms and pin oak bottoms and pine and post oak and white/red oak hills around Piney Creek in Polk Co. There are very few rattlers but a fair bit of moccasins and copperheads.

It's nice to still hunt down a trail by the creek in the switch cane after the pin oaks drop acorns. A startled cat squirrel will notice something amiss and jump up on a trunk. Then it's time to try a head shot before it's gone.


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Rev/MC: just now saw this thread. You guys are about two hrs south of me. Are you in cattle country? Pigs roam up here too, even in populated areas of Orange Park where I live. Nice to see open country in Florida. Again, thanks for sharing.


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Are you in cattle country?


Yep. Millionaires to the east of us, cows to the west. Y'all are having problems with bears up there now, aren't you?


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Do you get by with a circular pen with cattle around or do you have to make square corners with guy wire anchors?


One guy in particular does a round pen at his two locations and has not had a problem with cows getting in .

As hog panel is 16'in length I generally make my pens 31' x 31' square, overlapping a foot and space the T-posts about 6' apart or so. Yes, I usually brace from the inside corner with a diagonal T-post.

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Originally Posted by eyeball

It's nice to still hunt down a trail by the creek in the switch cane after the pin oaks drop acorns. A startled cat squirrel will notice something amiss and jump up on a trunk. Then it's time to try a head shot before it's gone.


Fox squirrels are easy.

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Catching a cat squirrel sitting still long enough to get a shot with a 22 can be a whole 'nuther ball game.

Polk County, Texas? Our place was north of SH-105 just east of Cut-n-Shoot.

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Dats whats gonna happen to couple pigs in FL. when I introduce them to the 223ai�.. grin


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Dats whats gonna happen to couple pigs in FL. when I introduce them to the 223ai�.. grin


Either that or run like a little girl like the fellows in this clip! Actually, I think Elk was right: you're way smarter than that, even if Mule Deer accuses you of being an Irishman.

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Run�hell�under those circumstances I can FLY! laugh


And I am Irish�..50% of me anyway�.


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Ain't that the truth! What's the sober half?

I'm going to go out and check feeders this week. We have a little TS brewing just off the coast, so it'll bring a bit of rain and barometric pressure drop. I'll be interested to see how the pigs react. Might even get in a little Winchester action.


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Mike,
I mentioned it on another thread, but I�ve access to a tract that is about 300 yds. wide and a mile deep (40 acres)that is adjacent to the Brazoria National Wildlife Preserve near Danbury Texas. About 28 miles from my house.

It used to be an old tree farm that was abandoned.

Has an irrigation canal that bisects it.

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Great area for geese, ducks, snipe, and dove. Probably nutria in the canal.

Tons of small game.

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I could have shot a dozen cottontails, but just wasn�t in a killing mood.

Did put a few rounds through a 28 Ga. CZ Ringneck I recently acquired.

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First time I went there was early in the year. One of the first things I noticed was a hog highway.

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Evidence of coyote, and suspect there will be bobcat also.

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Probably will go back and check the game cam later this week. Whet my appetite. Will wait at least a month before I take any hogs though. Want them piggies to get it in their noggin's that this is where the groceries are before I start popping them.

I�m calling this my �Honey Hole�. Will be able to get there in 45 minutes. Should help assuage the symptoms of SDD (shooting deficit disorder).

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That looks great! And that game trail is definitely a thoroughfare. Post some pictures once the pigs have cleared the brush from under and around the feeder...in about a week!


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I'm working on my lease this weekend. Most concerned about a protein feeder for the deer and fixing blinds, but I'll also put out some feed for pigs, and then hopefully thin the pig herd.

Who knows, I may actually put the 1907 to work, too...

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Sometimes I get stuck on stupid... "apologies to Corbett" ??

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Originally Posted by slg888
Sometimes I get stuck on stupid... "apologies to Corbett" ??

Corbett WMA?


As in "JW" in Palm Beach County? No, this would be Jim Corbett who is famous for shooting man-eating tigers and leopards in the jungles of India in the early part of the 20th century. Perhaps his most famous book about it is "Man-Eaters of Kumaon," hence the title, "Corn-Eaters of Florida (w/apologies to Corbett)". I figure we can share stories of our varied pigs hunts (wherever they may have occurred). I always enjoy hearing other stories and seeing the pictures as I'm always learning.


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"The Temple Tiger" is another very good book by Corbett.

He was born in India of British parents, became a successful engineer, and was best known for his skill and bravery, hunting down a number of man-eating tigers and leopards - saving a number of Indian lives in the process. He later wrote his best selling books, and filmed wild tigers. Later he spoke up for protection of habitat. He also helped train British commandos in bushcraft, around WWII.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Corbett

The people of India were generally none too fond of Englishmen, but they deeply revered Corbett, and their largest national park is named in his honor.

Altogether, I'd rank he and Teddy Roosevelt together, for having lived some of the most interesting lives in the past century.


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"The Man-Eating Leopard of Rudraprayag" is also a great read. I believe that's the book in which he mentions his first "magazine rifle": a .275 made by Westley-Richards. Interestingly, the Rigby-made .275 that he received as a gift, as well as his 450/400 double rifle are still around, but I can't find any information on the WR.


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Big Corbett fan here too. The man had the patience of Job and brass balls the size of volkswagens...


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Big Corbett fan here too. The man had the patience of Job and brass balls the size of volkswagens...


No doubt. And we know he used the correct cartridge for much of his shooting. grin


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Duh�which is why he and Bell achieved Iconic status��.


Kinda like you and me are working on�... grin


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Duh�which is why he and Bell achieved Iconic status��.


Kinda like you and me are working on�... grin


We're heading there, aren't we. cool


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Duh�which is why he and Bell achieved Iconic status��.


Kinda like you and me are working on�... grin


I thought Bell used a .256 Mannlicher...







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Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
I thought Bell used a .256 Mannlicher...

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He did, but then he woke up, smelled the coffee, and jumped on board the Ingwe Train.


Actually, I think he quit using the Mannlicher when he couldn't readily get ammo for it. As least that's what I've read. I like my explanation better. whistle


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for some odd reason I've never owned a Model 70. This one looks nice, though I am not crazy about the big honking Cabelas logo on the floorplate:

A 7x57

But I already have more projects than time... smile



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Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
for some odd reason I've never owned a Model 70. This one looks nice, though I am not crazy about the big honking Cabelas logo on the floorplate:

A 7x57

But I already have more projects than time... smile



Yeah, those are nice. That one has particularly nice figure on the butt. Read the next to last paragraph on this link. I think the author is referencing an article in an old American Rifleman. Check out what Bell said he'd take to Africa if he could do it all over again.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/bell_elephants.htm


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Yesterday afternoon, BIL and I went to the lease to see if we could scare up a pig or two. We're in our rainy season now and things are beginning to get wet out there. The low spots are full of water and most of the trails are pretty muddy.

We have reset the feeders so they fire at 6, since it doesn't get dark until after 8 and this time of year the pigs come out just before all shooting light is gone (because of the heat), but yesterday it was overcast and not quite as hot so we thought the pigs might come to the feeders a bit early. The heat and the rain also brought out the mosquitos, but between a nice breeze blowing from the southeast and a Therma-Cell, I was pretty comfortable. The Therma-Cell even kept the gnats away. I am now a firm believer!

As I slipped to the stand, I had to pick my way through a few low spots that are now full of water. The ground just below the feeder was also full of water since the constant rooting of the pigs has removed the dirt from around the roots of the oak tree from which the feeder hangs. Now when the feeder fires, most of the corn winds up under the water, although some of it falls on the dry ground around the edge.

I sat in the stand, watching a few birds peck at the corn, when at about 6:50 p.m. three pigs, all about 85-90 pounds, came from the north straight towards the feeder. One was mostly white, with black spots, one was mostly black with white and brown mixed in, and the other was entirely black. The water under the feeder didn't seem to bother them at all: they just rooted the corn right out of it.

I watched them feed for few minutes when a larger black sow also came in from the north to join them. She must have been following right behind them, but she never got into the water. She was content to stay on the edge and eat the fewer kernels of corn that had fallen on drier ground.

I didn't have any interest in taking the sow, so tried to line up a clear shot on the predominantly white pig. But I never could get a clear shot. The multi-colored pig was directly behind her, and I didn't want to risk killing one but potentially only wounding the other. So I settled for the black pig behind them.

Three things became pretty clear as I lined up the shot. First, a Williams Fire-Sight on a M94 glows like a fireball even in pretty poor light; second, a black pig in the shadows doesn't; and third, my eyes aren't what they were when I was 30. Sad to say, this may be my last evening hunt with the old Winchester.

In any event, when the two pigs in front of the black one finally moved out of the way I took the shot. It wasn't quite 7:00 and I had been in the stand for less than an hour.

Unfortunately, sometimes pigs fall in some pretty messy places. But that's hunting.

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The shot placement could have been better. The bullet entered high on the left side of the neck, but the angle I was shooting from drove it through the spine and down into the vitals. Again, no tracking required.

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Ah, I see...especially those friends who would rather shoot their own. wink


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
You know,you help me eat my pigs,I'll help you eat yours.


Don't y'all have javelina out there?


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Dang! Just had four shoats and a nice size sow just spook from a feeder. Dang!!


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Originally Posted by ingwe
I would have, had he been carrying a .270�...


Nope, was carrying the Featherweight. Another little boar for the pot. Details on this thread to come.


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Went out with grandson this morning and discovered I'm knee deep in pigs,,, again!!!

Logan with pigs!

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I don't really want to wish the blight of having pigs on to the landowners and farmers of Indiana. The state has passed rules/laws that appear to be helping prevent their spread and increase. That said, I think I could enjoy having such a tasty critter (I shot pigs in AL and TX last year) to chase/hunt year round. You guys are having too much for doing such good 'work'. laugh

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Dude I cooked up some loins on the grille the other night. OUTSTANDING! laugh


Ain't bad, huh?


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Last Sunday my BIL and I went to the lease for an evening hunt. He sat on a stand that was being visited by a pretty large pig, and I decided to alternate between two stands about 400 or so yards apart. The feeders are still firing at 6:00 and it was about 6:20 when we got to them. I slipped towards the western-most feeder first to see if anything was moving and when I got there four shoats, all about 30 pounds, had already eaten the corn and were trotting away. I squatted down to see what was going to happen and heard some movement off to my right. The path leading towards the feeder is pretty narrow at that point, and a nice size sow - about 125 pounds - crossed in front of me no more than about 10 feet away. Before I could get off a shot she grunted and disappeared into the palmetto. I could hear her blowing at me from the palmetto, but there was no way to see her since the palmetto there are tall and dense. The shoats, of course, had disappeared at her grunt, so I walked up to the feeder and spun the plate a couple of times. Perhaps a little more corn would bring them back.

I headed to the other feeder, but before I could get to the stand I spooked three or four hen turkey. They had been under the feeder, probably since it had fired, and had cleaned up most of the corn. There was still a little on the ground, so I climbed into the stand hoping that a pig or two might come in to clean it up. I hate turkey!

I sat in the stand until about 8:10 and since nothing was moving, I decided to head back to the other feeder to see if anything had eaten the extra corn I'd dropped. Sure enough, all the corn was gone; however I caught some movement just to the right. It was one of the shoats, facing towards me. It probably hadn't left even after they'd finished the extra corn since the birds and squirrels will often knock corn off the plate on the bottom of the feeder.

As I eased the rifle to my shoulder, two more of the original group joined the first. They were all under the shadow of the palmetto, and since I was losing light pretty quickly, I picked the lightest colored one, put the crosshairs on his face and pulled the trigger. His two companions were gone in a flash as he lay kicking for a few seconds. As you can see from the picture, it isn't likely he ever even heard the shot.

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The pig was only about 25 yards away when I shot. The bullet entered the right side of his face (his right side) and exited his side. Because his body was turned a bit as I shot, you can see another wound just behind the second one. I assume that it was caused by a fragment. There is also another wound on the skin inside his right hind leg.

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You can see all four wounds in this picture.

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He wasn't very big, but he was young and he'll cook up fine.

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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Went out with grandson this morning and discovered I'm knee deep in pigs,,, again!!!

Logan with pigs!

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They're some eaters in that trap!


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Don't kill them all before February Rev! shocked


Not a chance, Ingwe. There are way too many of them. Besides, I'll probably slow down a bit for the rest of this month and August as it's hot! eek That ought to give them enough time to replenish.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Seriously? Mosquitoes in February? eek


Are you going to be hunting near water/marsh?


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Seriously? Mosquitoes in February? eek


It just depends on how wet and warm it is. If we have some cold weather they shouldn't be too bad. If you're hunting a stand and it's windy no problem. If it's still and you're in the shade you might get a nibble or two, especially if it's been warm and wet. Personally I handle warm, wet, and bugs a lot better than the cold y'all are used to.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Im gonna get one of those wet it/snap it cooler cloth thingies for my punkin head�.


I don't know what that is, but February should be really nice. If you're ever here in the summer or fall, just pretend you're in India. It's about the same.


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I have been there in summer and in February. Summer was a preview of hell for me�February wasn't all that bad�


Though the natives around me suffered greatly from the 'cold'... grin

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I have been there in summer and in February. Summer was a preview of hell for me�February wasn't all that bad�


Though the natives around me suffered greatly from the 'cold'... grin


What makes it pretty miserable in the winter, at least here on the coast, is the never-ending wind and 90% humidity. Add that to 45 degrees and it'll chill the bones

But you haven't lived till you've sat in a stand when it's 90 degrees with 97% humidity...and there's not a puff of breeze. You might be right about it being a preview of hell. But the pigs like it.


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I have been there in summer and in February. Summer was a preview of hell for me�February wasn't all that bad�


Though the natives around me suffered greatly from the 'cold'... grin


What makes it pretty miserable in the winter, at least here on the coast, is the never-ending wind and 90% humidity. Add that to 45 degrees and it'll chill the bones

But you haven't lived till you've sat in a stand when it's 90 degrees with 97% humidity...and there's not a puff of breeze. You might be right about it being a preview of hell. But the pigs like it.



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Dang, GW! eek


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This morning is the first time in a about a month I've had the chance to go to the lease. I knew the feeders would all be empty, but there was still sign that the pigs had been under them. I guess the whirr of motor spinning the scatter-pan is like a dinner bell whether there's corn in the feeder or not.

My BIL and I filled the feeders, sighted in his new Cabela M70 7x57 (he's hooked), and were heading to fill the last feeder when we ran across this fellow...almost literally. He was about 5 feet long and was on his way back to the small flag pond from which he came. Sorry that the pic isn't the best, but this was taken with my smaartphone through the windshield of my truck and I'm not the best photographer in the world.

By the way, at 10:30 a.m. it was already 91 degrees and you could swim through the humidity. I think I'll head out some evening this week and see if I can't kill one of Ingwe's pigs. I'm sure they're going to be happy to actually get some corn when they hear the feeder fire. grin

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bout the same here.
I looked at the weather on my phone yesterday.
Concan Tx. (location of my lease) said it was 102 with 24% humidity. Felt like 102F.
Pearland Texas, said it was 93F, with 57% humidity, felt like 104F.
It was miserable out.

I didn't make it up to my lease for almost two months between May and July. The ranch has brought in feeder cows. Result, total devestation. Cow [bleep] everywhere, electrical cords, bungees straps chewed to pieces. Even chewed off sections of a plastic table. One of my buds had three of his four jack-up feeders destroyed. Luckily only one of mine was destroyed.
So a weekend ago I spent Thursday through Sunday filling up feeders and putting things back together. Only set out once,being the Thursday eve I arrived.Took my Merkel K1 in 9.3 x 74R to the stand along with my Thermocel( after dousing with Deep Woods Off) as the gnats and no-seeum's are like black clouds. Had three small rooters come out just after 7PM. I waited and sure enough all three lined up just long enough to get a shot.

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One droppped, DRT. The other two split left and right. When I walked up to the POI, I could see meat and crap heading to the tunnel through the cactus on the left, and I'd seen the one on the right limping pretty good. There was no breeze, 95 plus degrees. I decided to go back to the stand and have a cool beverage. Buzzards gotta eat same as the worms.

Next evening I was heading to my spot at the very back of the lease. It was about 5 minutes after 7PM and it was just starting to cool down. I was approaching a feeder that had just spun. I was on my Polaris 500 pulling a trailer with 600 lbs of corn and paraphanelia for repairiring whatever had been jacked up when I saw pigs under the feeder. At my approach they scattered. I turned off the motor and got my 6 x 47 model 7 Rem. out of the scabbard. Five minutes and they were back.

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If anyone doubts the ability of these critters to reproduce, this sow probably wasn't much more than six to eight months old and about 50 lbs. Had 7 football size piglets with her. Life is tough in the hill country and she was so poor from those piglets sucking the life out of her that she was positively boney. Definitely no fat hog there.

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Thinking about heading back up for September 1 opening day of dove season. Last week there were almost as many white-wings as there were gnats.

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Dang, Gee, that's just hot however you measure it. I mowed the grass this morning and I don't think there was a thing on me that was dry. The humidity is something else.

I have a question for you: I know you hunt with a lot of different rifles, but in your environment - which seems to be a lot like mine - do you ever really get a chance at a second shot? In other words, do you ever feel handicapped with a single shot? About the only time I ever get a chance at a second shot is when a sounder of young pigs comes in, and they're not sure what the "bang" means. Occasionally one will hold up in order to go back to the corn, but that's a pretty rare occurrence.

That's a big ol' hole, by the way. I assume he was the one in the front.


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Oh, and I forgot to mention, great shot of the sky. I love watching the sun set when I'm sitting in a stand.


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Originally Posted by RevMike


I have a question for you: I know you hunt with a lot of different rifles, but in your environment - which seems to be a lot like mine - do you ever really get a chance at a second shot? In other words, do you ever feel handicapped with a single shot?

That's a big ol' hole, by the way. I assume he was the one in the front.


In reverse order, yes, that was the one in front. When I purchased this Merkel, it came with 100 rounds of handloaded 286 gr. Partitions. I've been slowly using them on hoglets.

In regards to being handicapped by a single shot? No I do not feel handicapped by a single shot.

I have an AR in 6 x 45 and access to my son's 6.8 SPC, but I really am not a black rifle guy.

Perhaps if I was under pressure to kill a bunch, maybe so, but I'm not. When it comes to killing stuff, I've always been lucky. I get to go afield enough and have been doing it long enough that if I don't kill, I'm not bothered, there's always the next time. I usually have a camera on me and I end up employing it much more than a rifle or pistol. There's almost never a time that I don't see something or have an experience that makes it worth the effort.

And as to the topography/environment........

I have five different spots that have a feeder. Four are elevated. One is ground level. All are open spaces of about 20' to 30' in diameter, in reasonably dense cover.

The ground level stand I have a box blind set up about 100 yds. away and a couple tripods that I use for bow and crossbow.

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Being at ground level makes it much easier to take two or three with one shot than at an angle.

I have two feeders set up at my canopy stand. The topography of this is similar to the other three.
This one is to the northwest @ 174 yds.

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You can see the stand under the black dot looking uphill from the feeder.

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It's an opening about 30' in diameter.


And feeder #2 is south of the canopy stand. It is about 164 yds. to the south.....

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As you can see, pretty much one shot is all you get. I have had a couple occasions where I was up close with a lever gun and have caught them running up the side of a hill and nailed 3. Also, as you mentioned, I've had a couple instances where I've shot and killed and a couple will run off and be back within a couple minutes. Most of the time that don't happen.

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There must not be any goats on that ranch, otherwise they'd knock over the feeder smile

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Almost don't see any free ranging goats anymore. I don't believe the gov't is subsidizing the mohair industry as it once did. That and predators and predation.



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Well, let's hear it.


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Great story! Still taking steaks, cigars, and Patron to your brother's in-laws?


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Absolutely!

Lord willing,this will be the 15th year to hunt with those guys. Opening weekend has become more of a Rendezvous than an actual hunt. We've all slowed down a bit, but the older I get, the better I wuz!

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Originally Posted by geedubya
... but the older I get, the better I wuz!

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Amen to that!


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Yesterday, BIL and I went out to the lease to sit in a stand for a bit. We'd gone out earlier in the week but got skunked: there wasn't a pig in sight even though there was corn all around the feeders. At 8:30, with shooting light entirely gone, we called it a night. So we decided to try it again yesterday afternoon.

It was hot as we were driving into camp: 94f at 4:30 and not much of a breeze. There wasn't any cloud cover either, so we sat on the cabin porch for a while and let the sun drop a bit. We talked about which feeders we wanted to hunt, and since we had already been at the south feeders on Monday, we decided to try the north feeders. Normally we alternate in order to keep the pressure at a minimum.

At about 5:50 we headed out. The feeders fire at 6:00, and we normally try to be in the stands before then, but since it was hot we didn't think the pigs would be moving until almost dark. We were wrong.

I dropped BIL at the road leading to a feeder that sits on a right-of-way and I drove to a feeder about a half-mile north, close to the right-of-way but not quite on it. There is a natural head of myrtle, pine, and palm that separates the feeder from the right-of-way, and this not only provides a little shade to the feeder in late evening, but it also allows a hunter to slip to the south of the feeder and then head eastward to the stand without being seen.

I parked the truck on the access road about 30 yards from the right-of-way, crossed it to the south of the feeder, then headed in. The access path was a muddy mess, since we're finally back to our normal "summer monsoon" cycle - afternoon rains from about 2-5, which makes the humidity pretty rough - and the pigs had been using it as a wallow. Nevertheless, I was able to pick my way through the mud without getting it above my boots, and when I came to the end of the path I peered around a myrtle to see if by chance there was anything under the feeder. Sure enough, there under the feeder was a nice boar.

He had settled in to the corn pretty well, and was facing directly towards the west as he fed. If he stayed that way, I would have a perfect side shot, and I watched him for a minute or two to see if any other pigs were going to join him, but tonight he was dining alone. He raised his head to test the wind - I wasn't sure if he had winded me or not - but when he went back to eating I eased the hammer back on my old M94, put the Firesight on the base of his ear and squeezed the trigger. He hit the ground, pumped his legs a few times, then lay still.

As you can see from these pictures, he must have moved his head a bit between my brain saying, "squeeze" the bullet making impact since the bullet went through the outer part of his ear, straight into the ear canal, and directly into his brain. He never heard the shot.

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A little cleaner.

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Anyway, about 165 pound boar taken at 6:19 p.m. on a hot summer day with a 52 year old .30-30 at 27 yards. And I never even made it to my stand. Not a bad way to end the day.

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Rev. I just worked up a 223AI load for your Florida Hogs�gonna test it in Texas first, in January then descend upon Florida for Aporkalypse II: The Silence of the Hams laugh


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Rev. I just worked up a 223AI load for your Florida Hogs�gonna test it in Texas first, in January then descend upon Florida for Aporkalypse II: The Silence of the Hams laugh


Sounds like you'll have to save some for me!!!


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Mike, do you eat all those pigs? Seems like a powerful pile of pork.



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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Mike, do you eat all those pigs? Seems like a powerful pile of pork.



A lot of it, yes. PPP - priest provided pork - is a favorite at parish potlucks. I also give some away to friends who like to eat organic: you don't get more organic than that.

Oh, and giving some to the Bishop is always a good thing. wink


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I should also mention that while I'd love to give a lot of it to the local homeless shelter we support, they can't take it. Something about processing rules. I guess if it's not USDA they can't use it...which is really a shame.


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Well, then�they're not really hungry�.


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Oh, they'd eat it, Ingwe; but I think the health department would have something to say about it. "Big Government" you know.


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I know�Im just grinding an axe. We are supposed to be fighting hunger in a country where you literally can't find any�.even the homeless are able to turn down perfectly good protein.
People in this country have no concept of what 'hard times' are�.


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I'll grant you that. We have churches in places (I'm thinking India, primarily) where what we eat for dinner would feed a family for the better part of a week.


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The privately run homeless shelter my old church used to support would take all the venison they could get.


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Rev. Our local meat cutters take in deer and grind into burger, wrap and take to the local food bank, free of charge. My family generally donates at least 2 a year. OK now to the meat of the matter. I know both you and Ingwe have read all/most of Col. Corbett and Kenneth Anderson's books, as I have, and I would like to know something. What is/are "L.B." loads for shotguns they reference? I believe that it refers to a "Lethal Ball" load but are they buckshot or single ball/slug? I also expect one of you to use them on a hog (we don't have them here) and give a verrry detailed report! BTW was at a yard sale yesterday and got 200 Rem 175 RNSP's in orig boxes for the 275.-Muddy

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Rev, I think I answered my own question about the lethal ball load. On another forum (nitroexpress) there is a photo from an old Kynoch catalog of a "Lethal" bullet which consists of a sphere that is separated vert. and horz. into what appear to be 4 sections above and below its equator, each triangular with one radius side and a flat base. They were 12, 16 and 20 bore dia. for choke and cyl. barrels. with the thing having a steel frame that held the sections together until it "smashed effectively on impact". Anyway our Col. Corbett history lesson for today, God speed-Muddy

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Hey Muddy:

Sorry I haven't gotten back with you before today. It's been hectic around here.

You asked a really great question. I've seen "LB" mentioned as well as "LD". I figured one was probably something like a slug, the other something like buckshot. Glad you found something a bit more definitive.

I'll check out the nitroexpress forum as I'd like to see what it looks like myself.

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The only thing like that I remember from Corbett was "LG" �.12 ga. 'Large Game' loads�basically the equivalent of a 0 or 00 buck shot load. A fave for follow up on leopard.


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That's it!!!

At least I didn't think he was hunting with LBJ.


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Today is opening day of deer season (gun), and yesterday a bunch of us gathered at the camp to sight in guns, eat, etc., and while the guys were getting tuned up before dinner, I decided to slip down to the south feeders to see if anything was using them. The two feeders to the east fired but nothing was under either of them, so I headed to the one just to the west. As I was walking in, a couple of turkeys were heading out. It had been about 45 minutes since the feeders had fired and the turkey had had pretty well cleaned up most of the corn from under this one. But I climbed into the stand anyway just to see if a pig that I had seen twice before might show. Sure enough he did.

I wasn't in the stand more than about 15 minutes when he came out. I knew it was him because he was a copper/brown color, and had a light blaze going right down the middle of his forehead. But he wasn't alone: right behind him was another boar, only he was black and a little bigger. As soon as they got under the feeder, the brown one did something that surprised me. Instead of foraging the remaining corn, he just lay down under the feeder, while the black one stood a little behind him and off to the side.

Both pigs looked up to the stand where I was sitting, so I didn't move until they both turned away. When they did, I put the crosshairs on a spot between the eye and ear of the pig lying down, but just as I squeezed the trigger he moved his head a little. It was still a good shot, though, as the bullet entered just to the right of his right eye. He dropped and pumped a few times, and that was it. He was the first thing I've killed with the Zastava.

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Wednesday, my BIL and I went out to see if we could scare up a pig or two. We sat in the stands till dark and neither of us saw a thing, with the exception of a few squirrels and turkey nibbling the corn. It was a full moon, and since the pigs are almost exclusively nocturnal right now, we figured they would probably be feeding at night. But the feeders are still firing at 5:00, giving us about 45-50 minutes of shooting light should the pigs decide to show.

Since we didn't see anything Wednesday evening, we decided to go back out yesterday (Thursday) to try a couple of stands that hadn't been shot for several weeks. I dropped him off on the path leading to a stand overlooking a right-of-way and drove to another stand about a half-mile north. We were in the stands by about 4:30 and the feeders fired at 5:00, right on schedule.

It was warm, about 75 degrees, and I sat watching a few squirrels and a couple of cardinals nibbling at the corn. I was also glad I had my ThermaCell since the mosquitos and gnats were out in force - was very little breeze.

At about 5:20 I caught a glimpse between the trees of something dark moving just to the right (north) of the feeder. I was sure it was a pig heading towards the feeder along a game trail that leads to it. A minute or two later, a nice young boar came into the corn. I could tell he was young from the way he approached the corn on the ground: not very cautiously. As a matter of fact, he didn't seem to be paying attention to much at all, just concentrating on the corn.

I waited a few more minutes to see if anyone was going to join him, but it looked as though he was going to be dining alone; so I put the crosshairs on a spot just behind and below his right ear and pulled the trigger. As usual, he dropped at the shot, pumped his legs a few times, then never twitched again. I sent my BIL a text and we loaded him up and took him back to camp. He was a nice healthy young boar, about 130 very compact pounds. He'll cook up just fine.

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Deer season is in full swing right now, so yesterday several of our lease members and guests went out for a weekend hunt. I don't deer hunt, so I thought I'd sit in the stand overlooking the same feeder from which I shot the young boar pictured above. My BIL went as my guest, and he sat in his usual place about half-mile to the south of me, along the same gasline right-of-way.

As soon as I left the right-of-way and got on the trail leading to the stand, I heard a couple of faint grunts and saw the head of one very small pig and the backside of another. They were part of a sounder that came in the other evening as I was sitting in the same stand. It was late and a sow, followed by 6 or 7 young shoats, came to the feeder to pick up whatever corn the turkeys had left behind. I watched them through the scope but didn't take a shot. The shoats aren't piglets anymore, but I figured they are still young enough to need "mama," so I left the family alone. They'll grow. The two young pigs I saw yesterday afternoon were definitely a part of that family.

As they scooted off, I walked towards the stand and about the time I got there, I looked back to see of anything was under the feeder. We had a pretty good rain the other day, and the ground around the oak tree from which the feeder hangs was mostly under water. I know the pigs don't mind, but evidently the turkeys don't either as there were 5 or 6 picking up the corn that some of the fellows spilled earlier in the day as they were filling the feeders. Once the turkeys saw me climbing the stand, they didn't stay around long.

I got into the stand at exactly 4:45 p.m. The feeders still fire at 5:00 and since shooting light is entirely gone by 5:45, I figured I had about an hour to hunt. At just a few minutes before 5:00, I heard something walking through the woods behind me. Whatever it was was making a lot of noise, so I figured it was either a turkey or pig coming towards the feeder. Since deer couldn't care less about the corn we scatter, I knew it wasn't that. Sure enough, two hens walked in, took up positions directly under the feeder, and waited for it to fire. Their internal clock is amazing. When the feeder fired, they never spooked. The sound of the motor spinning the pan is nothing other than the dinner bell for them.

They spent a few minutes eating some of the corn that landed on the dry ground, then moved off. A couple of squirrels foraged a few kernels as well, then a few minutes later another hen arrived. She ate for a bit, stopped, and looked off towards my left while the squirrels scampered up the tree. That's always a telltale sign: something was on its way.

Sure enough, from my left a nice size boar came walking in. As soon as I saw him, I recognized him. A couple of weeks ago, as I was waiting for my BIL to arrive to help me load the pig in the picture above, I could barely make out a form against some palmetto about 15 yards to the north of me. All I could see some lighter spots, but it was far too dark to see anything else. I knew it was a pig, though, since it popped its jaws at me and growled a few times. Most people don't believe that a pig will growl, but they do. It's an eerie sound, especially when you can't see well enough to know from where it's coming, but after a few seconds of growling, it moved off. The light spots I saw that night was the light copper color on this pig.

He headed straight from my left towards the feeder, and once he got there he started foraging the corn that was under both it and the water. I was hoping that he would eventually work his way out of the water, or that another pig would come, but he never did. Neither did another pig show. I knew it was going to be a mess, but I put the crosshairs of the Burris just behind his ear and squeezed the trigger. It was exactly 5:15 when I shot, and I'd been in the stand for exactly 30 minutes.

Sometimes they fall in some pretty inconvenient places.

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I knew I couldn't load this fellow by myself, so I drove down to pick up my BIL to help. Our agreement with one another is this: since it's generally near dark when a pig is shot, once a pig that is too big for one person to handle is on the ground the hunt is over. We try to get them cleaned as soon as possible since it's generally dark and hot when we're doing so, and there are always other days to hunt. It works out well for both of us.

We didn't have a scale, but our "heft-guesstimate" was that he weighed around 175 or 180 pounds. Even though he was big and had a few battle scars, he wasn't a very old boar since his cutters were only about an inch long and he hadn't lost much hair along his spine. Nor were his teeth worn down. His markings, though, were pretty.

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When I got back to the house this morning, my wife said, "Let me have those backstraps. I have some mojo sauce, and those will be good for dinner."

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Not a bad way to spend a "Black Friday" if I do say so myself.

Oh, and by the way, the rifle was my Zastava Mauser, 7x57, with the Burris 3-9x40 (illuminated "German" reticle). It generally stays on 3x and I have yet to use the illumination feature. I have nothing against it; I just never think to turn it on. The load was just the standard factory Prvi 139 grain PSP. I'm going to buy a few boxes of the new Hornady .275 Rigby ammo just to see how it shoots. I might just have to start wearing a pith helmet as well.


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Im still almost three months away from cutting a swath of swine destruction through the sate of Florida....


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You realize they're taunting you, do you? They have natural defenses: heat, mosquitos, bugs, snakes, marshes...did I say heat and mosquitos? You're half defeated before you even enter the fray. But bring it on, they're ready!


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Light clothes for heat, Thermacell for skeeters. Snakes don't skier me, I LIKE them!

I feel sorry for those pigs, Im gonna unleash the .223AI on them with some Barnes TTSXs...


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That oughtta work fine. Just remember to post pictures, otherwise....


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Rev, It's 20 degrees here and to be minus 1 tonight, but I got my Bombay bowler ON. BTW a friend of mine used that ammo in our Veterans Day military rifle match 2 weekends ago in a pristine 1908.-Muddy

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Originally Posted by ingwe
Snakes don't skier me, I LIKE them!


I've been trying to post a picture of a 5 foot eastern diamondback a friend of mine shot early Friday afternoon, but for some reason the cell phone pics always want to post upside down from Photobucket. If you look at the pictures on a laptop they're fine; but look at them with a smartphone and they're upside down. I wish I knew why or how to fix it.

Anyway, my friend likes snakes too...says they taste good.


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Originally Posted by muddy22
Rev, It's 20 degrees here and to be minus 1 tonight, but I got my Bombay bowler ON. BTW a friend of mine used that ammo in our Veterans Day military rifle match 2 weekends ago in a pristine 1908.-Muddy


I'll be passing on those temps, Bombay Bowler or otherwise. How'd he like the ammo, though?


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You coming down to Florida? Where to?


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Rev, He beat me 338 2X to my 330 1X (dads 30 .carb). Short little bugger is hard to shoot offhand!-Muddy

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Here's a nice, young boar my BIL shot the other evening. He was about 120 pounds on the hoof. No grandiose Corbett story on this one: it was taken with a Browning X-Bolt in .308.

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So far the landowner on my lease manages to keep them trapped out. I haven't seen a hog on it in two years, though I have seen sign.


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You should toss out some yellow acorns and put a game camera if you've seen sign. Bet you get come pictures.


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I'm behind.

180 pound "bar" (cut boar) - Zastava M98 7x57:

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146 pound boar - Zastava M98 7x57:

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94 pound sow - Montana ASR 7x57:

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149 pound boar - Montana ASR 7x57:

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Dayum...I got some big time catching up to do!


Ands its gonna be awhile till I can do it.


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Between us, my BIL and I were right at 30 for 2014. 2015 has started a bit slow, but now that all the hunting seasons are just about over (spring gobbler ends next Sunday), a couple of us will seriously start chasing pigs again. And from all the young I've seen so far, there'll be no shortage.

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