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Don't feed the troll and he will go away.

"Don't feed the troll and he will go away."

We can only hope and pray for such relief!!

What these guys said...

Under this premise, it would be illegal to operate this craft in US airspace.

I am very well versed in the FAA/FCC laws and bulletins and provisions of such craft.

Blindly using a drone for scouting would seem a bit labor intensive. I can think of several instances in my past, however, where they would have been quite handy for herding game off deeded property and into range on public grounds.

Most hunters I know past a certain level of experience have grown comfortable with the methods they use. The bottom of their game freezers have not been seen in years. Bagging one more elk becomes secondary to the hunt itself, the experience, the method, succeeding on their own terms.

I don't see an accomplished hunter deciding to begin using a drone or suddenly deciding to pay for a high fence hunt. Pretty much to a man they would rather go the other way, read the signs, tracks, natural evidence, and eat the tag if it comes to that.

Extra bonus that drone thing...good choice.

Lefty

I will preface my post with we have too damned many laws already.

I want to hunt, not go on a shooting trip. I do know that outfitting is a business. The business aspect of outfitting is extremely noticeable on big game fishing boat. Captains want their fish counts up. As soon as deckhands hear, "Fish on," they're ready to gaff.

Big game outfitters probably sink or swim by the same concept: numbers. I'm good with that. It's how they get their desired numbers that might concern me. I do know that outfitters hire spotters who go out before seasons open and find locations of game thereby making it easier for their clients to kill game. It's all about numbers, and numbers are the lifeblood of outfitters.

I'd have to say that my initial reaction would be to not want to kill an animal that was droned. But then again, a drone could be looked at as a mobile game camera. Most hunters are good with mobile game cameras, yet their technology defense stops when technology gets airborne.

While my initial response would be against using drones, the reality is that clients of outfitters are assuredly clueless of whether outfitters use them.

Without hearing cogent arguments both ways (Why is Socrates always involved?), I'd go with VOLUNTARY grounding of drones.

Being the smart a$s that I am, I could have a blast were I to find out hunters were using drones. I'd get a few bull elk decoys and put behind the drone user's camp, and I put a tiny bikini bottom on a topless female mannequin, put a blond wig on her, put a "People" magazine in her hands, and place her on a lakeshore & wait for the drone to run out of gas.

If we knew we were always going to be successful, it'd be called shooting, not hunting.

So what. A client could be clueless about any number of laws an outfitter breaks.



Not how I prefer to spend my hunting season, but in this case I say go for it.



Exbio gave the best so far. It allows people to scout for game without ever having set foot in an area.

But if you think voluntary restrictions would work, I have a friend in Nigeria who will wire you $10 million if you forward your bank account information.

You're too late. I set up an account and got my data to him yesterday. Let the good times roll.

smokepole,

How many federal, state, and local laws do you think now control us? I'm for getting rid of laws, not adding new ones. Can you tell me how one governmental agency or another doesn't already control your life? We're controlled 24/7 and most have no clue of it.

Government is viable to the extent that it is able to control us. And we are controlled. Law is the primary method of governmental control. If that no longer works, it will use force.

Tell your friend to wire the money to me. I'll invest it wisely.

SS: A law banning the use of drones for hunting will not only fail to control me, it will have zero effect on me. Because even if they were legal, I'd stop hunting before I'd use one of the damn things. As a matter of fact, they're already illegal here, and I didn't even notice until this thread came up and I checked the DOW website.

I made that point about 10 times in this thread, but too many hillbilly tards like "Smokepole" stammer back with the same old stupid, tired response --- "But, but, that's unethical". A drone is nothing more than binoculars in the sky, and if your human hunting buddy glasses game from a ridgetop that's perfectly ethical and legal, but when a drone does it well then it's totally unfair to the poor animals.

Methinks this Smokepole idiot is "pole-smoking" his boyfriend a little too much and not focusing on the big picture about where hunting technology is headed. LOL.

^Take_a_Pee^

You guys just can't learn about feeding the troll. Let it go.

Where hunting technology is headed? News flash: drones are illegal in most states, that's where that technology is headed.

On second thought, not where it's headed; it's already there.

Laws have intended unintended consequences. Devious politicians know their ultimate goal, it this case it's gun confiscation. One obstacle is legitimate hunting. If politicians can make sport hunting illegal -were it put to plebiscite now, I ain't sure how we'd fare- then they can remove a reason for owning rifles. Therefore, I'm damned suspicious of all laws. A rider on a drone law that makes it illegal to use rifles that hold more than one round would not surprise me.

Many specious defenders of the Second Amendment undermine their interests. If you don't believe me, search this sight under Romney. God only knows how many 'fire members demanded that I vote for that liberal, neocon, RINO who had signed gun control legislation. If politicians are successful in deleting the Second Amendment, I know damned well that I ain't gonna help 'em.

Before you wish for a law you ought to knows its intended unintended consequences. Californians weren't quite so bright. CA has probably more black bears south of Alaska. Hunters can't use dogs anymore to hunt them. We can't hunt mountain lions even though there are probably more lions in CA than in any other state.

I have no interest in using drones. But another hunter might have a legitimate reason. For instance, a hunter who's dying and this is his last season. Or a paraplegic hunter who has greatly restricted mobility.

I know that due to my numerous surgically repaired injuries that my hunting seasons are numbered. I'll have to have at least 3 cortisone shots before I leave for this year's elk hunt.

FOR ME, I'd rather tag along and sit on a stand all day and hope for a shot at a buck before I'd use a drone. But it is beyond egocentric -more close to totalitarian- to force others to accept what's right for me.

It used to be that I'd spend a few days scouting before opening day. Now I have to limit my walking to what's necessary, and that's with a cortisone shot in my knee and probably close to lethal doses of naproxen.

If I KNEW that I'd kill game on every trip, it'd be called shooting, not hunting. FOR ME, I like the hunting part. I want to know that any animal I kill had a fair chance and that I hunted it before I shot it. FOR ME, I don't want to shoot ranched animals nor do I want to shoot genetically engineered animals. If others are good with either, it's none of my damned business.

That old axiom of: you had better be careful of what you wish for because you might just get it, ALWAYS applies & the wise keep it close to their vests. The greedy thought that they were gonna get free stuff with Obamacare. Just wait until their get their co-pay bills. Obamacare will cause more medically related BK's than before it became law. I could've done a first-class Costa Rican fishing trip for the cost of co-pays for my last surgery. Before Obamacare an orthopedic surgery would cost me at most a grand. My last one was at least 5 times that amount. The same principal is applicable to what might be a drone law. It's all about the intended unintended consequences.


Jus' sayin'...

Laguna, GFY.

Loco,

Are you still hittin' on men?

Are you doin' the San Francisco Gay Pride Extravaganza again this year? Or will you be tied up doin' gay porn stunt sex work

SS, your contention that banning drones could lead to the end of hunting is so far-fetched as to be incredible. It's much more likely that allowing them would lead to the end of hunting.