Thinking about getting a rifle for long range deer and yote killing. Out to Maybe 700 yards or so. Looked at the Remington Long range rifle and it looks like it Might work but I just need some input as to choosing this rifle or would I be better to buy a plain Jane Remington 700 and Rebarrel and restock it?I want to do this right the first time. Without taking a loan on the house ! I am interested in either a 7mm Rem mag But I really like the 30-06 as well. Also need some input on Glass for this purpose. Heres the other thing ,I will be using Factory ammo. I know ,I just dont like to reload anymore !
First off, SERIOUS long range afficianados figure out pretty quick that their sports predominate cost is ammo, that is true even if they reload. If they don't reload, and the guvmint ain't buyin' it for you, you'll go in the hole PDQ. So, the first thing I'd advise you purchase is press, and the other tools you need to get started.
If you are a captain of industry or a neurosurgeon, then this won't apply. In that case, you'll probably be better off with a 308 than anything else as true match-grade ammo is more available in that caliber than anything else.
Well in the 40 plus years I have been shooting I have probably never shot 50 rounds prone off a bipod at one sitting. Mostly off a Bench,a truck hood,Deer stand with sturdy railing around it for solid support of the rifle etc. Even off a pack laying on the ground ,I can find a sturdy rest without resorting to a bipod.
Cost of the ammo is relative as 308 or anything else cost money. As I said I dont like reloading anymore and I WILL be using factory loads .
I would like some Input on the the questions I originally posted.
I have never been able to see much difference ballistically between the 7 mag and the 30-06, so that's a toss up. If I wanted really accurate rifle in either of those cartridges, I would have it built. As others have said, the 308 is probably a better choice and in that case, I would buy a factory rifle. Lots of accurate 308's available and plenty of match quality ammo out there.
Well in the 40 plus years I have been shooting I have probably never shot 50 rounds prone off a bipod at one sitting.
Craig
And you want to shoot 700 yards? Might up your shooting habits some.
So you are saying the only accurate shooting can be done off a bipod ? Thats Bullshit.
What these guys are saying is that if you plan on shooting 700 yards, you sure as hell better put a few hundred rounds through the rifle from field positions at the ranges you plan on shooting. If you don't, then you have absolutely no business shooting that far.
Buy a 308 or 243 Ruger Simba, an SWFA 10x, a bunch of ammo, and practice practice practice.
Thinking about getting a rifle for long range deer and yote killing. Out to Maybe 700 yards or so. Looked at the Remington Long range rifle and it looks like it Might work but I just need some input as to choosing this rifle or would I be better to buy a plain Jane Remington 700 and Rebarrel and restock it?I want to do this right the first time. Without taking a loan on the house ! I am interested in either a 7mm Rem mag But I really like the 30-06 as well. Also need some input on Glass for this purpose. Heres the other thing ,I will be using Factory ammo. I know ,I just dont like to reload anymore !
Thanks Craig
The 700 Long Range is relatively new to the scene, but has the M700 pedigree. It "could" get the job done for you, or it could be a lemon. Pays your money and find out. Or build. Accurate ammo with target bullets can be gotten for either round mentioned - BlackHills will sell you 7RM with a 162gr Amax, or 30-06 with 155gr or 168 amax or 168gr Hornady HP. Would guess some of the other upstart ammo makers will do the same/similar.
Which ever you choose, I'd put a 20MOA rail on it, a set of Seekins rings and a 6.5x20 Leupold LR on it. Invest in a decent trigger and shoot the crap out of it. Find the cheapest ammo you can to practice at short/midrange until shooting it becomes second nature, use the good stuff for stretching things out.
Well in the 40 plus years I have been shooting I have probably never shot 50 rounds prone off a bipod at one sitting.
Craig
And you want to shoot 700 yards? Might up your shooting habits some.
So you are saying the only accurate shooting can be done off a bipod ? Thats Bullshit.
What these guys are saying is that if you plan on shooting 700 yards, you sure as hell better put a few hundred rounds through the rifle from field positions at the ranges you plan on shooting. If you don't, then you have absolutely no business shooting that far.
Buy a 308 and practice.
I had already planned on that and thats not the questions I asked . I didn,t ask for ANYBODYS input on how much I need to shoot ,AND dont need YOUR oppinion either telling me what buisness I have shooting at any range. Its a Damn shame that there are so many who seem to be unable to read a post and just answer the damn questions in the post .
Read my post from the start and the questions I asked. I dont need anyones oppinions on anything other than what I asked.
Thinking about getting a rifle for long range deer and yote killing. Out to Maybe 700 yards or so. Looked at the Remington Long range rifle and it looks like it Might work but I just need some input as to choosing this rifle or would I be better to buy a plain Jane Remington 700 and Rebarrel and restock it?I want to do this right the first time. Without taking a loan on the house ! I am interested in either a 7mm Rem mag But I really like the 30-06 as well. Also need some input on Glass for this purpose. Heres the other thing ,I will be using Factory ammo. I know ,I just dont like to reload anymore !
Thanks Craig
The 700 Long Range is relatively new to the scene, but has the M700 pedigree. It "could" get the job done for you, or it could be a lemon. Pays your money and find out. Or build. Accurate ammo with target bullets can be gotten for either round mentioned - BlackHills will sell you 7RM with a 162gr Amax, or 30-06 with 155gr or 168 amax or 168gr Hornady HP. Would guess some of the other upstart ammo makers will do the same/similar.
Which ever you choose, I'd put a 20MOA rail on it, a set of Seekins rings and a 6.5x20 Leupold LR on it. Invest in a decent trigger and shoot the crap out of it. Find the cheapest ammo you can to practice at short/midrange until shooting it becomes second nature, use the good stuff for stretching things out.
Kaiser Norton
Thank you ,I appreciate you answering and replying to the questions I asked.
Might have been good advice for someone else But I asked about the 30-06 and 7mm Magnum . Phuc you too . You are the Jackass because you cant stick to the questions asked.
Funny. You asked about putting something together without breaking the bank.
308 ammo loaded with Sierra Matchkings can be had for less than half the price of "match" '06 or 7mm Mag ammo. The ammo is going to be the most expensive part of this deal. Figure on putting $500 worth of 308 ammo, or $1000 worth of '06 or 7 Mag ammo through it, before you take it to the hills.
