|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,799 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,799 Likes: 1 |
Thinking of another hog/black bear rifle. I haven't seen or heard much about the 8mm-06. The 338-06 almost seems better in availability and it launches a slightly bigger bullet. Not sure of ballistics for either. Furthest shot would be 300 yards but more likely to be 200 yards and under.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 56,352 Likes: 9
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 56,352 Likes: 9 |
Seems like a 338/06 would be the cats meow, especially in a components shortage. The other would work just fine, but why place limitations on yourself?
_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack
LOL
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 7,263
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 7,263 |
Main reason for the 8mm-06 was to convert military Mauser's easily when 8x57 ammo was not generally available. Both good small medium bores and cover about the same range 150-250gr. bullets for the 8mm and 160-300 for the .338.
If you wanted to get really nostalgic build a .318 Westly Richards or a .333 Jeffrey.
"When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred." Niccolo Machiavelli
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,748
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,748 |
Never heard of an 8mm-06 cartridge, although I have no doubt there is one. 338-06 is a great cartridge, have one of those. For what you described, the 338 Fed sounds perfect. Could run a 160 TTSX at >3000fps or a 210 Partition at ~2600. 8x57 would work too.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,799 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,799 Likes: 1 |
Tejano, if I'm going Jeffrey than it will be a 404 (grin)!
I'm thinking the 338-06, possibly an AI will work well for my needs? I guess I would stick with the 210 grainers for everything?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,846 Likes: 6
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,846 Likes: 6 |
You could split the difference and get the best of both worlds with a 318 Westley Richards.
Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 13,965 Likes: 4
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 13,965 Likes: 4 |
When I shot out the barrel on my Husqvarna.30-06 I wanted to get it rebored to 8mm-06 because I'm fond of .32's. Alas, the reborer said he wouldn't do a Husky again because the steel is too hard and they don't cut nice.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,723
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,723 |
I'd go straight 338-06 over ackley. Not going to notice any difference. Id even look into a 35 whelen. Never owned the whelen but I'd think it would be a hog stomper
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,467 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,467 Likes: 2 |
Do you have a supply of 8mm bullets on hand? If so, then perhaps an 8mm-'06 makes sense, otherwise, I think the general availability of .338 bullets wins out. 8mm bullets aren't something you find in just every gun store.
.338-'06 with 210 grain partitions should thump hogs and black bears pretty well.
Tom
Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip.
Here be dragons ...
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 685
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 685 |
I built mine in the AI version mostly to be different. Reloads of either the 225gr Accubonds or TTSX are what I shoot. A 210gr TTSX or Swift Scirroco's would be breat as well.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 6
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 6 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,007
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,007 |
Flip a coin. No significant difference in .323 vs .338. 338 has better bullet selection tho...
I am continually astounded at how quickly people make up their minds on little evidence or none at all. Jack O'Connor
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,178 Likes: 20
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,178 Likes: 20 |
That would be the significant difference.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,950
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,950 |
Mule Deer What bullet would it take in the 338/06 to pentrate deeper than a 200 grain Nosler Partition in a 30/06?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 13,965 Likes: 4
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 13,965 Likes: 4 |
I just like .323's because I'm a WWII buff and I had at least one rifle from every major country involved. I really liked my 8X57's and that is why I'd like to have an 8mm-06. Otherwise it makes little sense.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,264
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,264 |
I've got an 8mm-06 AI. It's as much a novelty as anything, but pretty potent. Got it for use as a backup/loaner rifle. Just a rechambered Mauser 98 8x57. So, if you're building from the ground up, .338-06 is probably the way to go due to bullet selection. However, a 200 grain Partition from an 8-06 (AI or not) is more than enough for literally anything in North America and it's easy to do on a Mauser. But if going for a more expensive build, go with the .338-06. Whole gun cost me $225 FWIW.
"For some unfortunates, poisoned by city sidewalks ... the horn of the hunter never winds at all" Robert Ruark, The Horn of the Hunter
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,799 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,799 Likes: 1 |
Always been intrigued with the 8mm after seeing a .325wsm thump a critter.
Already did the 9.3x62 route.
Always looking to add a few more to the stable but something different? I may have to get the 338-06. Thanks.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 29,663 Likes: 5
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 29,663 Likes: 5 |
That would be the significant difference. +1
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,249
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,249 |
I have had a couple of .338-06's and both have been super easy to work loads up for, and there honestly isn't as much difference between it and a .338 WM as you might think. I have a nice VZ24 that I purchased way cheap, with a new Shaw barrel. I've never bought a Shaw barrel, but this one shoots MOA and doesn't foul, so works for me. I have less than $300 in it with a typical Buehler style safety, Boyds laminate stock, and scope ready. There isn't much that you can't do with a 210 TTSX at 2800, or a 225 at 2700 fps, or a 250 at 2500.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,178 Likes: 20
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,178 Likes: 20 |
Fred,
To be honest, I dunno, since I never ran a direct comparison with the 200 Partition in the .30-06 with any of the three .338-06's I've fooled with. But suspect it might match the 200/.30-06with the 225 TSX, and maybe the 250 Partition. Though in my experience the 200 penetrates VERY well, both from the .30-06 and various .300 magnums.
Also had an 8mm-06 for a while, and found out it was basically a .30-06. The problem is bullets. Basically, any bullet available in 8mm can be matched or exceeded by a .30 caliber. But .338 is a different story.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
|
|
|
|
528 members (007FJ, 1lessdog, 160user, 01Foreman400, 1badf350, 1Longbow, 55 invisible),
2,155
guests, and
1,144
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,240
Posts18,504,551
Members73,994
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|