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Originally Posted by FlyboyFlem
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Q: What else?
A: We had the impression that American commanders had their hands tied by political factors. Your generals could never deploy a maximum force for greatest military effect.


With the possible exception of Schwarzkopf's "end run" strategy and leadership of Desert Storm in general, that pretty much describes American warfare from Korea through the present.


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That's my take for many moons.. wink


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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
Originally Posted by FlyboyFlem
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Q: What else?
A: We had the impression that American commanders had their hands tied by political factors. Your generals could never deploy a maximum force for greatest military effect.


With the possible exception of Schwarzkopf's "end run" strategy and leadership of Desert Storm in general, that pretty much describes American warfare from Korea through the present.


The US hasn't declared War since WWII. That's the problem when actions taken under the guise of "a police action", a UN mandate, a "resolution", or an "authorization to use force"...since these are not American War, they become Presidential Wars, of the Administration, and not of the People.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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It tells me that I am pleased you are not Australian...and that your American status is suspect as well.
You don't have a clue what it means to be an American.


America stood for commitment, stability, freedom, and the chance for the ordinary man to make something of himself...it was a nation that could change the world and be better for it.


It sounds like you have a better grasp of it than TRH...


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
Originally Posted by FlyboyFlem
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Q: What else?
A: We had the impression that American commanders had their hands tied by political factors. Your generals could never deploy a maximum force for greatest military effect.


With the possible exception of Schwarzkopf's "end run" strategy and leadership of Desert Storm in general, that pretty much describes American warfare from Korea through the present.


The US hasn't declared War since WWII. That's the problem when actions taken under the guise of "a police action", a UN mandate, a "resolution", or an "authorization to use force"...since these are not American War, they become Presidential Wars, of the Administration, and not of the People.


So, what would your thoughts be on Letters of Marque?


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
The US hasn't declared War since WWII. That's the problem when actions taken under the guise of "a police action", a UN mandate, a "resolution", or an "authorization to use force"...since these are not American War, they become Presidential Wars, of the Administration, and not of the People.
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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
Originally Posted by FlyboyFlem
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Q: What else?
A: We had the impression that American commanders had their hands tied by political factors. Your generals could never deploy a maximum force for greatest military effect.


With the possible exception of Schwarzkopf's "end run" strategy and leadership of Desert Storm in general, that pretty much describes American warfare from Korea through the present.



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Originally Posted by HugAJackass
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
Originally Posted by FlyboyFlem
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Q: What else?
A: We had the impression that American commanders had their hands tied by political factors. Your generals could never deploy a maximum force for greatest military effect.


With the possible exception of Schwarzkopf's "end run" strategy and leadership of Desert Storm in general, that pretty much describes American warfare from Korea through the present.


The US hasn't declared War since WWII. That's the problem when actions taken under the guise of "a police action", a UN mandate, a "resolution", or an "authorization to use force"...since these are not American War, they become Presidential Wars, of the Administration, and not of the People.


So, what would your thoughts be on Letters of Marque?


Yes, the French are very skilled at declaring war for us, but I prefer when it's done by Congress.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by deerstalker
Westy stood before congress and told them that we were in the right and we were winning,

We were and we were.

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Westy stood before congress and told them that we were in the right and we were winning,

We were and we were.


yes we were and we were. my last post came out wrong. I am to this day unable to approach this time of my life coherently.
I will there for bow out.


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Originally Posted by JSTUART


America stood for commitment, stability, freedom, and the chance for the ordinary man to make something of himself...


That bullshit floated until Vietnam.

It's definitely a low fiber turd these days.

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Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by JSTUART
It tells me that I am pleased you are not Australian...and that your American status is suspect as well.
You don't have a clue what it means to be an American.


America stood for commitment, stability, freedom, and the chance for the ordinary man to make something of himself...it was a nation that could change the world and be better for it.

That is how I saw the United States of America when I was a lad, now I see it as being peopled by things such as yourself that have no belief and a dire need to cast aspersions upon any that do not measure up to your lofty ideals...your bullshyte lefty over-educated arrogant ideals.

Yes there are holdouts that still reside in the former, but they are on the wane and creatures such as you are the cause of it.

Have a nice day you foul low [bleep].



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