Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Long Range Hunting Has the 6.5 smothered the 270's chances?

you may want to give that kill record claim a little more thought...

Yeah possibly.....Maybe regionally in some places...no 6.5 or 7mm comes close here.

I don't have numbers so maybe should not have shot my mouth...but I still think no 7mm or 6.5 comes close,worldwide.

I bet only the 30/06 beats it world wide.....well maybe the 308 too.


I googled this stuff...the only 7mm making any top ten list is the 7 Rem Mag.There were no 6.5's on any list. The 270,30/06 and 308 were always in the top 5.The 270 was always ahead of the 7 rem mag.

Dang. Lotsa 270 chatter this week. I did monkey with 150 ABLR's, but never shot at anything that's going to be food or past 500 for that matter. Have another 200 en route only because I got them cheaper than SMK's. Barnes for meals, leads for steels.

But that's a whole nuther weeks worth of threads....

16bore keep shooting!

I'd like to see someone run the piss out of ABLR's, for [bleep]. A .277 Scenar would be on my wish.....

I have been killing stuff with a 270 for 40+ years! I have owned 2, 6.5's for the past year (grin) I have fun shooting the 6.5x47L and might even hunt with it a few days this years. But the 270 has being yeoman's work without fail all of these years.

Randy

My first big game rifle was a 270, wasn't impressed when I had to shoot a moose 5 times through willow brush. I think in open fields could have done it better but what the hell I was only 17 years old at the time. The choices were limited for me at that time since I hadn't started reloading and had to buy my ammo. If I remember correctly the 270 box of 20 silvertips were 10 dollars while he 30-06 was near 11 dollars. Economics chose for me.

The matrix 165gr is a wicked bullet! Should try some.

Be interesting to see, but I'd prolly be skunked out the gate with a 1:10. How far have you run them?

378, what bullet type/weight, placement - range?

378, what bullet type/weight, placement - range?

Hey 65BR that was 35+ years ago. bullets were crappy in them days. I shot at about 150 yds with a cheap scope. Don't get me wrong I think the 270 is a great caliber, more so now with better bullets.

have no trouble hitting game at sane ranges with either 270wcf, or 6.5 creedmoor. Would like to try Nosler LRAB in 270, they sound fantastic,

This^^^.

Add to that, you can't change physics. There are no "magic" calibers/cartridges. Just simple physics. The 6.5mm and 7mm will ALWAYS be better at LR than the .277. That's just the way it is, regardless of personal preferences/biases.

I'm no .270 fan, nor a hater. The .277 142gr SMK was fun to play with for a while:

I cannot agree that the 6.5/7mm will ALWAYS be better than what lies in the middle.

That is assuming no changes in twist and bullets in .277.

I don't even know what this conversation is about...smothered the 270's chances to do "what"?

Become popular? Kill more BG animals here than all the 6.5's in existence combined?

It's always been a hunter's cartridge,to use with hunting bullets...not a target cartridge for match shooting with target bullets or reaching to 1000 yards.There's better stuff for that.

If you are one of the tiny minority of shooters who think they are long range specialists,or want to shoot BG animals with target bullets,get something else.

The 6.5's don't make any one's top ten list of "most popular cartridges"but the advocates sure do make a lot of noise. They remind me of the guys 30 years ago who preached that you couldn't kill an elk without a 338 Win Mag.

Thankfully not too many listened and kept rolling elk with a 270 Winchester.

Nice post.... now go read the question and try again. The question ain't "will .270s kill schitt"....

The 6.5s and 7s only helped folks realize now nice higher BC is. If anything, they increased the demand for an LR projectile in .277. The fault is the .270s.... it was hamstrung from the start by the 1-10" twist.

Why is everyone who carries a round with a bullet having a BC higher than .500 a "long range specialist"? Or, "trying to shoot Big Game at long range"? Maybe... they're just prepared.

Saying someone shooting high BC billets is 'looking to shoot BG at long range'.... is like saying everybody who carries a pistol, is looking for a gunfight. It just ain't true.

You and Frenchie are quite the team these days..... like Pelosi and Reid...

DS: Last time I checked, this was the "Long Range Hunting" forum, not the "Long Range Gong Shooting" forum.Implicit in "hunting" is "killing".So mentioning killing in the context of cartridge and bullet performance, is a legitimate exercise.

Long range, being a pretty subjective standard, is also open to debate.

Based on what little I can decipher from everything you post,you seem to be rich in experience with one, short on experience with the other. I will leave to your own imagination which is which.

Correct me if I am mistaken, but I suspect that Billy has killed more BG animals than you,has guided more hunters,and seen more shooters,cartridges and bullets in action on animals and done more hunting as well;I can tell by what he posts that he has vastly more hunting experience than you do.

I know I have,except for the guiding part,but I have been around a lot of hunters while they killed animals.

I have a funny feeling (again correct me if I am mistaken) that the amount of BG animals you have killed at over 300 yards might fit in the back of a Subaru.Again I apologize if I am mistaken in this

I also assume from what you post, that you do no official,competitive match shooting (if I am mistaken in this I apologize),other than an occasional jaunt to Raton to shoot there(how many times?).So I will ask....do you do any competitive match shooting on any teams? Or are you more like the rest of us and shoot a lot of targets?

Since I have been hanging out with a LOT of match shooters who compete, officially at registered matches nation wide,and internationally as well,for about 40 years, I am used to talking with people with experience who know what they are talking about.Some of these guys also hunt....many use 270s and think they are just great.So how DO we reconcile these "differences" of opinions?

Experience killing animals. You can't learn this shooting gongs,which is fodder for anybody and cheaply available. Hunting experience,OTOH, takes time,money,years,and effort to accumulate.

In short,I pay about as much attention to your ankle biting non sense as the monitor over on the Nosler site did. I'm sure they were impressed as hell with your notions about the 243 AI being as good a BG cartridge as the 270 Winchester. You numbers guys will believe anything.

I always said I can spot a phony hunter a mile away by how fast he reaches for a ballistics table.....I ain't been wrong yet.

Please go back over there.

Holy chit thats funny. Mine would fit in a Vespa.....

Again Bob .... read the f'n question..... and quit with provincialism.

I don't give a schitt how much game you've killed.... or how much guiding you've done... or whatever.

Telling people how/where/why to hunt is quite condescending... period. You don't know me.... how I hunt... or where. I don't know you.... but I don't tell you how to do it. Anyone who does.... is phuggin stupid.

Keep it up Nancy.....