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Fellows, what can you tell me about this rifle? I have found one in 270win that I want bad, I would like to know of any problems they may have and how well built they are, as well as accuracy potential they tend to have. Thanks
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The 1885s and the new generation B78s are generally a bit more desirable than the older B78s due to their improved trigger, but all I've seen are very nice, and often have some of the nicest wood I've ever seen on regular factory rifles at any price. I briefly owned an older B78 .45/70 and still have a Low Wall. Nice guns, good shooters, very well made. The current models sold as Winchesters are good rifles, no doubt, but as far as I can tell from photos, the stocks and metal finish can't compare to the Brownings.
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They frequently have over-heavy triggers, and will likely have to go to a specialist to get a trigger job. The actions are very difficult to reassemble without special tools.
But they will likely have excellent barrels, and shoot very well. If you like the rifle, go for it.
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If that gun was made in japan there would be no pride in owning it. Those dwarfs started World War 2 and tortured woman and children in prison camps. The Ruger #1 is easier to use.
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Also exclude AYA shotguns because of the Inquisition, German Mausers because of the Nazis, American guns because of Wounded Knee and My Lai, and Swedish Husqvarnas because of "Mama Mia".
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I have several #1's. And were I designing a perfect single shot I probably wouldn't build it in Japan, nor have white line spacers and glossy wood finish. But all the ones I have seen, shoot very well. And the one I own came from my Dad.
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I've got a newer win 1885 in 375 h&h and have had a ruger no 1. The 1885 wood could be better, but the metal work and accuracy is superior to the ruger. Both nice rifles, I kept the 1885.
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I haven't seen any of the new ones in person, only on-line pics.
I prefer the HWs in the traditional chamberings like .38/55 and .405, but I also really like the Rugers with the AH forend. Never cared for the full-stock Rugers that so many seem to go for, but that's just me.
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I have two Brownings. An 1885 and an 1886 both 45-70. Well made and great shooters. The Browning 1885 has an advantage over the Ruger No1. The barrel is floated on the Browning single shots so thay tend to shoot a bit better than the Rugers. I also have a Ruger No1 (in 45-70 of course) and it too is a fine rifle. As for Brownings being made in Japan. Big deal. After seeing some of the crap comming out of Remington and Marlin these days does it really matter where it was made? What counts is the quality of the product.
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Thanks Guys, Great Info! I understand the Japanese thing But after serving with them in Iraq and Watching what is by far the most invested country in our economic system that benefits the American worker, I can buy a Jap made browning and not be bothered by it.
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If that gun was made in japan there would be no pride in owning it. Those dwarfs started World War 2 and tortured woman and children in prison camps. The Ruger #1 is easier to use. Wonder who all here have ever bought anything of German, Italian, Korean or Chinese Manufacture. Wonder if anyone here has ever used petroleum products or plastic refined from Saudi crude. If that don't float your boat, buy it pre-enjoyed from another American and don't look back. Browning or Winchester. Either one will work fine Best, GWB
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I have had three, all 1885, all .45-70. All were accurate. Correct, the fit finish, and wood is far superior to the Winchester cousin.
The Japs and the Germans both tortured people. I suspect the average Jap was about as responsible for Tojo as I am for Obama. Germans were more behind Hitler, perhaps blinded by the slick speaking dictator.
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Thanks Guys, Great Info! I understand the Japanese thing But after serving with them in Iraq and Watching what is by far the most invested country in our economic system that benefits the American worker, I can buy a Jap made browning and not be bothered by it. If mental retardation and senile dementia were currency, Savage_99 would be able to pay down the deficit hundreds of times over. The guy is a f*cking moron who isn't worth the sweat off my ass. (Peruse his plethora of stupid posts if you have some free time and lean towards masochistic interests. They're truly painful to read.) The Browning High Walls are on the heavy side, are only available in a handful of chamberings, and have a mediocre trigger. However, they shoot fairly well and are very well made. I liked one well enough I had it rebarreled to 6.5x55mm. (It was originally a 7mm Remington Magnum.)
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I have a Uberti 1885 hi wall made in 2005 that I reabarrelled to 257RAI rimmed that I have shot deer with.
I have a a Ruger #1 7mmRM made in 1977 that I have shot deer with.
I like both of those.
I also have a Browning 1885 7mmRM made in 1994. It is plenty heavy. I have not shot it yet. I need to make a scope mount to fit on the tapered octagon barrel.
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I'd like to have an 1885 in 6.5 Swede...
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I'd like to have an 1885 in 6.5 Swede... Winchester is supposedly chambering their current "Low Wall" version in 6.5x55..... I have heard of folk with them and they seem to be pleased. I have the Browning edition in .260 and love that little rifle.
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I'd like to have an 1885 in 6.5 Swede... Winchester is supposedly chambering their current "Low Wall" version in 6.5x55..... I have heard of folk with them and they seem to be pleased. I have the Browning edition in .260 and love that little rifle. How's she shooting?
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I've lusted after the Browning 260 for some time now...
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