I don't know about now or other branches of service, but when I was in the Corps the guys on the Marine Corps rifle and pistol team at Quantico were there for 8 months and then back to their command.
I believe that back in the 90's, when I shot, the USMC team had a semi-permanent cadre that they filled out during the summer.
I don't know about now or other branches of service, but when I was in the Corps the guys on the Marine Corps rifle and pistol team at Quantico were there for 8 months and then back to their command.
I believe that back in the 90's, when I shot, the USMC team had a semi-permanent cadre that they filled out during the summer.
SOTIC or SF Sniper School as its called now, has quite a few DA civilians. SGM Boucher was NCOIC there 25yrs ago and he's been civilian cadre there since after he retired.
Can any body come up with a comprehensive point by point list, from an engineering and machinist perspective of the differences between the DPMS "hobby" gun and the Knights Armament? ... and why the K/A is mo better?
Feed, fire, eject, accuracty, portability/weight.
When you run and gun the DPMS parts break? Which ones?
In your own experience what let you down and broke?
It depends on the particular model, howevet in general-
Barrels made of inferior steel Gas ports not sized correctly Chambers not cut consistently, and usually too tight Feed ramps not cut correctly Bolts made of cheap steel Bolts with poor QC Bolts not MPI/HPT tested Weak extractor springs Extractors with poor QC and poor steel Incorrect buffer and buffer spring with regards to gas port sizing
I don't know about now or other branches of service, but when I was in the Corps the guys on the Marine Corps rifle and pistol team at Quantico were there for 8 months and then back to their command.
I believe that back in the 90's, when I shot, the USMC team had a semi-permanent cadre that they filled out during the summer.
Yes semi-permanent meaning they still answer to their command. Also 8 months would be semi-permanent. My command would not allow me due to mission requirements to shoot so I went to the MAG CO to try to shoot (archery). The MAG CO called my CO and asked to make arrangements for me to be able to shoot tournaments. Also there was no range on my base so they created an area where the dolphin's use to be and allowed me to train there (on my own time). So I got to shoot tournaments as long as I got to and from. Was better then nothing.
Can any body come up with a comprehensive point by point list, from an engineering and machinist perspective of the differences between the DPMS "hobby" gun and the Knights Armament? ... and why the K/A is mo better?
Feed, fire, eject, accuracty, portability/weight.
When you run and gun the DPMS parts break? Which ones?
In your own experience what let you down and broke?
It depends on the particular model, howevet in general-
Barrels made of inferior steel Gas ports not sized correctly Chambers not cut consistently, and usually too tight Feed ramps not cut correctly Bolts made of cheap steel Bolts with poor QC Bolts not MPI/HPT tested Weak extractor springs Extractors with poor QC and poor steel Incorrect buffer and buffer spring with regards to gas port sizing
Those are just the main issues....
Thanks...
The reviews on the Midway page for the DPMS SASS 18" barrel are all over the board; evidently some of them are quite accurate but more than a few have screwed up chambers, too tight, too short, not straight, can't get any gas block to fit etc.
Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.
The new DPMS SASS is advertised on Buds for about 1800 The Knights Armament SR25 is over 3500
What is the big deal with the Knights? Is the BCG and Trigger super duper? The barrel? What is the engineering difference? I don't understand or see it.
Government contracts. Can't sell it to the government for $3,500 if your selling to the public for $1,500.
I don't think the KAC is worth its cost over the DPMS penny for penny, but they for sure are not the same quality rifle.
All merchandise suffers from diminishing returns. A $500 gun may be twice the gun that a $250 one is but a $2000 is not twice the gun that a $1000 one is. Same with cars and about everything else.
I don't think the KAC is worth its cost over the DPMS penny for penny, but they for sure are not the same quality rifle.
All merchandise suffers from diminishing returns. A $500 gun may be twice the gun that a $250 one is but a $2000 is not twice the gun that a $1000 one is. Same with cars and about everything else.
Originally Posted by CBMJR
I agree. Same way a Hensoldt is not 4 times the quality of a Nightforce.
Pretty much. The KAC stuff has a pretty spotty record for accuracy but is high on reliability, at least that is what I have read on the internet.
I sure would want an accuracy guarantee at that price.
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