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Ah yes,you do have class.

Is the .300 H&H you have a Pre '64 Super Grade?

Yessir, he and his little brother in 22 Hornet rid the farm of vermin and put meat in the freezers.

I've seen pictures of the Hornet, and it's Uber cool. I would think the .300 H&H would be as cool.

DF

Thanks DF, they're both very functional and accurate old war horses.

Yep, that makes sense. I was looking at the Nosler website while ago and noticed they have a product called Accubond longrange which is slightly different from the regular accubonds that I;m familiar with, and some are in new weights.
Anyone of these would seem to be a do all round with the AB longrange bullits.
.264 Win mag - 129 AB LR
.270 - 150 AB LR
7 RM - 168 AB LR
30-06 - 168 NBT
300 mag - 190 AB LR
Anyone test fired these Acuubond Longrange bullits?

Just fired off a pic of em to EHMN.

Yeah and the H&H is gorgeous!

Thanks Ken, we can love em, but the critters REALLY hate em. lol

Yeah.

300 Weatherby for me

Here are some Hornet photos.

DF

There's that little stinger , Thanks Buddy.

Guess I hyjacked the .300 WM thread, but when these classic guns were mentioned, thought I'd show the Hornet.

Df

A .30-06 is quite capable of doing all that as well, with less recoil and, for the non-handloader, with lower ammo costs, too. I�ve yet to see any .300WM plinker ammo that is as low cost as can be found for the .30-06 and hunting ammo is almost always more for the .300WM. There are also more loads available for the .30-06, including Accelerator loads for pest control. (I know, Accelerator accuracy is questionable but fine for less than long range.)

If I was hunting browns with a .30-06 I�d load up 200g or 220g bullets and not worry.

Although I like my .300WM a lot, I still believe it is at the top of the range I would consider as �best� for an all-around cartridge and a one rifle battery. While it is arguably better than a .30-06 for a very limited range of tasks I feel the average hunter is better off with a .30-06 as a general purpose cartridge.



Limiting the competition is one way to ensure your candidate comes out on top but it is intellectually dishonest. In this case you limit the bottom of the range to the �Big 7�s�. I would start the list of viable candidates with non-magnum 6.5�s. This would include the .260, .270, 7mm-08, 7x57, .280 and others.

You also ignore the .308 Win. If I was hunting moose or browns and felt a .308 Win was inadequate, a .300WM wouldn�t give me much additional comfort.

How about a little reality check? You tout the .300WM with a 180g bullet and denigrate the .338WM, but let�s look at hard data�

.300WM, 180g AB (B.C. 507) @ 3050fps, 250 yard zero, scope height 1.5�
100yds = +2.3�, 2900fps, 3361fpe, 10mph drift = .4�
500yds = -28.7�, 2347fps, 2202fpe, 10mph drift = 12.1�

.338WM, 225g AB (B.C. .550) @ 2800fps, 250 yard zero, scope height 1.5�
100yds = +2.8�, 2669fps, 3560fpe, 10mph drift = .5�
500yds = -34.0�, 2182fps, 2379fpe, 10mph drift = 12.6�

So the .338WM hits a little harder (plus ~200fpe) with a heavier and fatter bullet. At 500 yards the .338�s �rainbow� trajectory puts it a whole 5.3� lower than the .300WM, -34.0� versus -28.7� respectfully. A hunter than can�t easily deal with that doesn�t have any business taking shots at that range.

As to wind drift, a difference of .5� at 500 yards in a 10mph crosswind is negligible.

No need to dick with a .30-06 to make it shine. Load it up and go hunting.


Seems like you are stuck on western hunting, but may people hunt in the east and will never need what a .30-06 can offer, let alone the marginal additional capability of a .300WM, even if they make an occasional trip out west or up north.

Here�s the popcorn!

CH - the title of the article is "300 Win Mag - The One Rifle Battery" and that was the point I made.

One rifle, one caliber and one bullet/load will do it all.

I've hunted and killed with most of the calibers I mentioned but within the stated meaning of the article, they all leave something off the "table".

DF - I love your Winchesters, veddy, veddy nice indeed!

Good post Coyote, the problem is Ol' CW is not allowed east of the Mississip.

Yo Nordhead, I gots some news for ya's, you live west of the "Mississip".

Do we need to ride your way and makes ya look's like this?

That gun and it's .300 H&H mate, belong to Gunner 500. All I have are photos of the Hornet.

You'd think he's let me use it...

DF

One rifle, one cartridge but the original article specifically discusses different bullet weights.

Between the two (.30-06 and .300WM), if I had to stick with one bullet for everything a .30-06 and a 165/168g bullet would get the nod.

For the 20+ years I had one bolt rifle, a 7mm RM and 160g bullets did p-dogs. coyotes, antelope, deer and elk.

I'm not a world traveled hunter. Mostly Texas, from one end to the other, up, down, and sideways. I have owned .300 magnums from Win., Wby., and H & H. The only thing I ever killed with one was my friends steel turkey cut out that was suspended with chains at 400 meters. I shot it full of holes. Wrong gun for that job.

The reason that I never killed game with one was weight. I would carry two guns and when the time came to hunt off my own two feet, a lighter piece was always chosen. From my bench work, I know the .300s to be superior, but I do not think I ever missed out on game by carrying a .30-06, and in later years a .308, both being lighter and handier than any factory issue .300 - going back some thirty or more years.

As I age, recoil is now an issue. About 6-8 months ago, I sold my last magnum. I do still have a 9.3x62, but I have no logical explanation as to why, other than to scratch an itch.

A do it all caliber? I have killed everything from armadillo to whitetails, and from coyote to heavy desert mule deer, and the occasional exotic with a .30-06 loaded with Hornaday's fast loaded 180s. I suspect that that a 7 Mauser would have worked as well, and with today's bullets, perhaps even a .243. Seems like it does not take as much gun for women, kids, and old farts to kill stuff as it takes for flat bellied studs. Hey, I did not notice this just last week. A huntress of my acquaintance showed me a few tricks, some of them with a .243, almost fifty years ago.

Use what you enjoy,

Jack