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Whao Whao, you mean there aint no bigfoot?
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Whao Whao, you mean there aint no bigfoot? There was one running around in the Green Swamp several decades ago. I have a T shirt to prove it.
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�The second law of thermodynamics says that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases The earth is not an isolated system. The sun continues to shine upon us every day.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Yeah, that "closed system" thing keeps getting missed by the folks using it as an apology for creationism.
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They're still wrestling with how second law of thermodynamics and the theory of evolution can both be true at the same time. The answer is in what they're named -- a law and a theory. It may be a convincing theory, but it is still a theory and will remain a theory simply because it cannot be observed or tested.
That "life comes from life" is plain enough, evidenced by the fact that some theorize life on earth came from somewhere in space. If life elsewhere is discovered, then we'll get around to asking how it got there.
Now to your point -- I don't think "life comes from life" is an original thought with you. Moses seemed pretty sure of it.
Steve. We are all children of star dust. Of course, I don't expect Bible Believers to understand science.
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I'm just wondering why they don't sell beer in packs bigger than 30 To keep cops like you from going over the edge!!!! 
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
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Yet 3 out of 10 people believe in Bigfoot. ...and a 6k year old terra firma!
Epstein didn't kill himself.
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Biden didn't win the election.
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Do a little research outside the bible for a change. Are you agreeing with me that I found the First and Second Laws and now a Third by studying God's Word? Sounds like it. Hardly.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
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Astrobiologists are convinced they'll find life out there somewhere. However...
The least complicated single cell organism is so vastly complicated that the chances of all the molecules for it's existence being in the same place at the same time is one in billions, and that's not counting bringing it to life. The odds of it happening twice on 2 different planets is one in billions squared - a number so incredibly small that it's virtually impossible to happen. Getting them both to live is ludicrous. Seeing as how infinite the universe is and the trillions and trillions and trillions of galaxies out there and the fact that we have a hard to getting out of the Milky Way galaxy it's not surprising that life has been found yet but who is to say what constitutes life. It's impossible to believe that we are the only planet in the infinite universe to support some type of life. Heck, it took billions of years for life on this planet to get to where it is today.
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They're still wrestling with how second law of thermodynamics and the theory of evolution can both be true at the same time. The answer is in what they're named -- a law and a theory. It may be a convincing theory, but it is still a theory and will remain a theory simply because it cannot be observed or tested.
That "life comes from life" is plain enough, evidenced by the fact that some theorize life on earth came from somewhere in space. If life elsewhere is discovered, then we'll get around to asking how it got there.
Now to your point -- I don't think "life comes from life" is an original thought with you. Moses seemed pretty sure of it.
Steve. We are all children of star dust. Of course, I don't expect Bible Believers to understand science. You're kidding, right? 1. There are plenty of Bible believers who understand science as well as the next guy. That's been true ever since the scientific age began. 2. Star dust? There's life in star dust? And you question a Bible believer's grasp of science? 3. So let's assume we all got here from somewhere else -- exactly what question does that answer? Steve.
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Now to your point -- I don't think "life comes from life" is an original thought with you. Moses seemed pretty sure of it.
My paper is titled "Original thoughts and observations". My "discovery" today was an observation, not an original thought.
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You're kidding, right?
1. There are plenty of Bible believers who understand science as well as the next guy. That's been true ever since the scientific age began.
2. Star dust? There's life in star dust? And you question a Bible believer's grasp of science?
3. So let's assume we all got here from somewhere else -- exactly what question does that answer?
Steve. The building blocks of life. Exploding stars is the beginning of new life. We all come from the stars. Where the the soul and spirit comes from is in the realm of theology not science.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
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They're still wrestling with how second law of thermodynamics and the theory of evolution can both be true at the same time. The answer is in what they're named -- a law and a theory. It may be a convincing theory, but it is still a theory and will remain a theory simply because it cannot be observed or tested.
That "life comes from life" is plain enough, evidenced by the fact that some theorize life on earth came from somewhere in space. If life elsewhere is discovered, then we'll get around to asking how it got there.
Now to your point -- I don't think "life comes from life" is an original thought with you. Moses seemed pretty sure of it.
Steve. We are all children of star dust. Of course, I don't expect Bible Believers to understand science. You're kidding, right? 1. There are plenty of Bible believers who understand science as well as the next guy. That's been true ever since the scientific age began. 2. Star dust? There's life in star dust? And you question a Bible believer's grasp of science? 3. So let's assume we all got here from somewhere else -- exactly what question does that answer? Steve. So I take it you don't understand the origin of elements heavier then lithium?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Now to your point -- I don't think "life comes from life" is an original thought with you. Moses seemed pretty sure of it.
My paper is titled "Original thoughts and observations". My "discovery" today was an observation, not an original thought. I hope you are not expecting an A+ on that paper!!!!
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
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Got there before me (thanks Thermo 302!) Though I do believe the 3rd law should state absolute zero, to reduce confusion...
I can think of 4. 
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Astrobiologists are convinced they'll find life out there somewhere. However...
The least complicated single cell organism is so vastly complicated that the chances of all the molecules for it's existence being in the same place at the same time is one in billions, and that's not counting bringing it to life. The odds of it happening twice on 2 different planets is one in billions squared - a number so incredibly small that it's virtually impossible to happen. Getting them both to live is ludicrous. Not really. What are you made of? We are mostly oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen. And what are the most common non-inert elements in the universe? hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, carbon.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Every year scores, maybe hundreds, of biochemist and there students try to generate life in a test tube and fail. They have been attempting this at least since the 1950�s when I first read about it. Maybe even prior to that. What else could the reasonalbe person conclude from these decades of failures except life come from life?
Have you given any consideration to the possibility that the correct primordial ingredients and conditions have yet to be determined? That would explain your 'observation'.
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We are mostly oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen.
And what are the most common non-inert elements in the universe?
hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, carbon. I gotta know. Tell me how inert elements become ert. We all gotta know. Steve.
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Astrobiologists are convinced they'll find life out there somewhere. However...
The least complicated single cell organism is so vastly complicated that the chances of all the molecules for it's existence being in the same place at the same time is one in billions, and that's not counting bringing it to life. The odds of it happening twice on 2 different planets is one in billions squared - a number so incredibly small that it's virtually impossible to happen. Getting them both to live is ludicrous. Not really. What are you made of? We are mostly oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen. And what are the most common non-inert elements in the universe? hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, carbon. Wow! What a coinkydink.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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