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Originally Posted by FreeMe
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What political office do you hold since you simultaneously call the information a fallacy while you aren't saying it is wrong? You got backed in to a corner and you started the Clinton double speak I see.


Do you not understand the difference between a logical fallacy and "wrong"? You need some remedial education. Get out your google-fu and get to work.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fallacy

fal�la�cy
noun \fa-lə-sē\
: the quality of being false or wrong


So what is your next bullshit move? Will you admit you made a:
mis�take verb \mə-stāk\ : to understand (something or someone) incorrectly : to make a wrong


or will you just flat out lie your teeth out now if you weren't already?


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Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by sherp
Originally Posted by FreeMe

It wold be interesting to see who and where all the members are, but that does not seem to be available.


HQ is in Virginia

Unless I missed any, there have been 2 non-USA presidents(Canadians) of the IACP since 1893:

http://www.theiacp.org/IACP-Past-Presidents

Current board is almost entirely USA except for "International Vice President Chief Superintendent Barbara Fleury" from Canada.

http://www.theiacp.org/Governing-Body

Executive Staff is all USA:

http://www.theiacp.org/Executive-Staff


Looks to be mostly USA cops with the International part just tossed in as a token.


You do not understand that "members" means everyone - not just the officers? Or are you just being obtuse?



It was founded by USA police and it is, and always has been, composed mainly by, of, and for USA police.

Looks like you just answered the question I posed in the last post too.


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Originally Posted by sherp
Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by sherp


What political office do you hold since you simultaneously call the information a fallacy while you aren't saying it is wrong? You got backed in to a corner and you started the Clinton double speak I see.


Do you not understand the difference between a logical fallacy and "wrong"? You need some remedial education. Get out your google-fu and get to work.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fallacy

fal�la�cy
noun \fa-lə-sē\
: the quality of being false or wrong


So what is your next bullshit move? Will you admit you made a:
mis�take verb \mə-stāk\ : to understand (something or someone) incorrectly : to make a wrong


or will you just flat out lie your teeth out now if you weren't already?
that was about the weakest, lamest, attempt at google-fu I have ever seen.

Let me help you out....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/rhetological-fallacies/

There will be a test in the morning....


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Originally Posted by sherp
Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by sherp
Originally Posted by FreeMe

It wold be interesting to see who and where all the members are, but that does not seem to be available.


HQ is in Virginia

Unless I missed any, there have been 2 non-USA presidents(Canadians) of the IACP since 1893:

http://www.theiacp.org/IACP-Past-Presidents

Current board is almost entirely USA except for "International Vice President Chief Superintendent Barbara Fleury" from Canada.

http://www.theiacp.org/Governing-Body

Executive Staff is all USA:

http://www.theiacp.org/Executive-Staff


Looks to be mostly USA cops with the International part just tossed in as a token.


You do not understand that "members" means everyone - not just the officers? Or are you just being obtuse?



It was founded by USA police and it is, and always has been, composed mainly by, of, and for USA police.

Looks like you just answered the question I posed in the last post too.


Show me who the members are now. I'm dying to know.


Lunatic fringe....we all know you're out there.




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Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by sherp
Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by sherp


What political office do you hold since you simultaneously call the information a fallacy while you aren't saying it is wrong? You got backed in to a corner and you started the Clinton double speak I see.


Do you not understand the difference between a logical fallacy and "wrong"? You need some remedial education. Get out your google-fu and get to work.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fallacy

fal�la�cy
noun \fa-lə-sē\
: the quality of being false or wrong


So what is your next bullshit move? Will you admit you made a:
mis�take verb \mə-stāk\ : to understand (something or someone) incorrectly : to make a wrong


or will you just flat out lie your teeth out now if you weren't already?
that was about the weakest, lamest, attempt at google-fu I have ever seen.

Let me help you out....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/rhetological-fallacies/

There will be a test in the morning....


Oh yeah, use Wikipedia where any idiot can modify it at will. Hell with Merriam Websters as a resource. They have only been cranking out dictionaries for close to 2 centures now so we really should use you and your agenda as a resource on the English language instead.

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Ask him if he's a Green Beret.




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Originally Posted by FreeMe
Show me who the members are now. I'm dying to know.


Show us a complete member list of The National Association of Chiefs of Police since you support their views on limiting who may own firearms.


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FreeMe,

Ask him if he's a Green Beret.




Travis


I am not. Are you still a member of the Log Cabin Republicans?


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Originally Posted by sherp

Oh yeah, use Wikipedia where any idiot can modify it at will. Hell with Merriam Websters as a resource. They have only been cranking out dictionaries for close to 2 centures now so we really should use you and your agenda as a resource on the English language instead.


Didn't bother to look at it, did ya? I gave you two references, of which one was wiki - and the info there was likely cut & paste from another source. It's pretty commonly available all over the place if you look with intent to learn. But you instead just resort to another logical fallacy to bolster your argument.....and your subsequent posts do the same.

I lied about the test. The test is already in progress. Lots of time for you to score 100% before morning. Gotta go. See ya.


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You should see a page with sherp and sookie having an arguement. It's as close to a blank page as you can get.


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Yeah, I know. The police chiefs in Mass are different than cops everywhere else. Right? Yeah.
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Police chiefs in Massachusetts are blasting state lawmakers for shooting down a provision that would have given them sole discretion over who can get rifle or shotgun permits.

The Bay State, which has some of the nation's toughest gun laws, has long left it up to a community's top cop to sign off on handgun permits. Lawmakers were considering extending that to include the Firearms Identification Card, or FID, needed to possess long guns. But lawmakers, leery of the constitutionality of the law, which critics say can result in law-abiding citizens being denied their Second Amendment rights, have stripped a proposed bill of that provision. This week, police chiefs from throughout the state and gun control advocates converged on the Statehouse in Boston to blast state senators for removing the provision.

�Our position is really very, very simple,� said Wayne Sampson, executive director of the Massachusetts Chiefs of Police Association. �We, as an association, believe that it�s unconscionable that if we determine a person is unsuitable to carry a handgun, that they can then turn around and apply for a Firearms Identification Card, which allows them, by law, to purchase rifles and shotguns. And there�s no way we can impose any restrictions on that. It just doesn�t make sense.�


and as always, more at the link..........


I haven't read this entire thread.

I just want to say this , The state of North Carolina has for years (since 1919) had a law that you have to ask permission of the head law enforcement officer of your county (county sheriff) to buy a handgun (Pistol Purchase Permit)

This is nothing but a Jim Crow era law.

In 2013 the PPP law was up for REPEAL.

The repeal of the NC PPP law failed at least in part because it was opposed by a small handful of very influential REPUBLICAN sheriffs.

Those sheriffs that opposed the repeal did not do so because of any concerns for "public safety" , but because THEY DID NOT WANT TO RELINQUISH THAT POWER over their constituents.


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Hate to break it to you, but location, department, and second amendment aside.... none of all that matters! No cop is your friend period!

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Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by sherp

Oh yeah, use Wikipedia where any idiot can modify it at will. Hell with Merriam Websters as a resource. They have only been cranking out dictionaries for close to 2 centures now so we really should use you and your agenda as a resource on the English language instead.


Didn't bother to look at it, did ya? I gave you two references, of which one was wiki - and the info there was likely cut & paste from another source. It's pretty commonly available all over the place if you look with intent to learn. But you instead just resort to another logical fallacy to bolster your argument.....and your subsequent posts do the same.

I lied about the test. The test is already in progress. Lots of time for you to score 100% before morning. Gotta go. See ya.


We already determined you were lying. When you berate someone and tell them to look up a definition and then claim Webster's isn't good enough, do we really need to know anything else about how you like to carry on conversations and debates?


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Originally Posted by 6mm250
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Yeah, I know. The police chiefs in Mass are different than cops everywhere else. Right? Yeah.
link to story
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Police chiefs in Massachusetts are blasting state lawmakers for shooting down a provision that would have given them sole discretion over who can get rifle or shotgun permits.

The Bay State, which has some of the nation's toughest gun laws, has long left it up to a community's top cop to sign off on handgun permits. Lawmakers were considering extending that to include the Firearms Identification Card, or FID, needed to possess long guns. But lawmakers, leery of the constitutionality of the law, which critics say can result in law-abiding citizens being denied their Second Amendment rights, have stripped a proposed bill of that provision. This week, police chiefs from throughout the state and gun control advocates converged on the Statehouse in Boston to blast state senators for removing the provision.

�Our position is really very, very simple,� said Wayne Sampson, executive director of the Massachusetts Chiefs of Police Association. �We, as an association, believe that it�s unconscionable that if we determine a person is unsuitable to carry a handgun, that they can then turn around and apply for a Firearms Identification Card, which allows them, by law, to purchase rifles and shotguns. And there�s no way we can impose any restrictions on that. It just doesn�t make sense.�


and as always, more at the link..........


I haven't read this entire thread.

I just want to say this , The state of North Carolina has for years (since 1919) had a law that you have to ask permission of the head law enforcement officer of your county (county sheriff) to buy a handgun (Pistol Purchase Permit)

This is nothing but a Jim Crow era law.

In 2013 the PPP law was up for REPEAL.

The repeal of the NC PPP law failed at least in part because it was opposed by a small handful of very influential REPUBLICAN sheriffs.

Those sheriffs that opposed the repeal did not do so because of any concerns for "public safety" , but because THEY DID NOT WANT TO RELINQUISH THAT POWER over their constituents.


Mike



Nothing wrong with that and since Republicans were pushing it Conservatives can support it.


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at the moment there are no electable Republicans


or rather, no Republicans I would want to vote for, as all the prominent ones are RINOS.


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Mass cops showed what they were all about during the marathon bombing,



They sure the hell did! They thought they were real badasses didn't they.


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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Hate to break it to you, but location, department, and second amendment aside.... none of all that matters! No cop is your friend period!

Phil


I am a cop. I have plenty of friends, many I've met at CF gatherings. I would say your premise is false.

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Originally Posted by NH K9
Originally Posted by Greyghost
Hate to break it to you, but location, department, and second amendment aside.... none of all that matters! No cop is your friend period!

Phil


I am a cop. I have plenty of friends, many I've met at CF gatherings. I would say your premise is false.

George



I would say the premise is false too. Im one of the folks George mentioned...


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Originally Posted by bea175
at the moment there are no electable Republicans


or rather, no Republicans I would want to vote for, as all the prominent ones are RINOS.


The only RINO in recent memory was Ron Paul and he was not electable.


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Originally Posted by NH K9
Originally Posted by Greyghost
Hate to break it to you, but location, department, and second amendment aside.... none of all that matters! No cop is your friend period!

Phil


I am a cop. I have plenty of friends, many I've met at CF gatherings. I would say your premise is false.

George


A bit different when they are buying you dinner or something, but as T. Lee posted an article in another thread the average civilian is a terrorist or gang member in tehe eyes of police officers.


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