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As this current phase of Israel's genocide of Palestinian women and children continues, has anyone figured out if in fact three Israeli teenagers were murdered, and if these alleged murders did occur, who was responsible?

American voters are the most gullible voters in the world.


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Bristoe,

It was informative, but nothing new to those of us who are aware of Israeli propaganda and agenda.


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Originally Posted by Esox357
Enough is enough, Israel unleashes a can of Whoop Arse on ham's arse, hamas. Kick arse and take names Israel!


After reading this thread, do you still feel the same?


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Originally Posted by SansSouci
Conrad,

Making other countries' internal affairs our business is interventionism, a concept condemned by our Founding Fathers, a concept that has caused blowback, a concept that has bankrupted us.

Interventionism is the policy of Democrats and neocons. Noninterventionism is the policy of authentic conservative. Our military was intended to protect our country and only our country.

Following your logic, if we can make another country's our business, then another country can make our business its business, right?

We never, ever stuck our heads in sand during WWII. We knew exactly what was happening. However, Americans wanted no part of another European war. And that's nearly exactly how President Washington admonished our Founding Fathers' progeny in his Farewell Address. And we had broken JN 25 long before Yamamoto got close to Pearl Harbor. We knew where Yamamoto was before he knew where he was.

We were duped in to WWII, just like we were duped in to WWI, of which, incidentally, Chruchill said our involvement screwed up the world. But then again, but for the Federal Reserve and its enabling amendment, that being the 16th Amendment, we would have never gotten involved in either of Europe's 20th century wars.
What Washington said in the 1700's doesn't apply today, because we are not isolated from the rest of the world. Look what happened on 9/11. That could easily happen with nuclear weapons when Iran develops them. Furthermore, if Iran gets control of Iraq, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states they could destroy the world economy.

The Muslims have stated over and over that they want to destroy Israel and exterminate the Jews in Israel. We can't let that happen. I challenge you to embrace the deaths of 6 millions people.

We weren't duped into WW2. We were attacked by the Japanese and even if we had realized that they were bound for Pearl Harbor ahead of time that was and act of war and a state of war would have existed between us and Japan. So it doesn't matter if we knew that the Japanese were going to attack us.However, this doesn't matter either. After they attacked Pearl Harbor the Germans and Italians declared war on us. You think we should have ignored the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and the declarations of war by Germany and Italy? If so you need to see a psychiatrist.

There are countries who make our internal affairs their business. A number of latin american countries including Mexico regularly do that.

Anyway most of the conflicts that we get into have nothing to do with the internal affairs of a country. They have to do with the actions of that country that effect us. Like North Korean invading the South. Iraq invading Kuwait. Afghanistan protecting Al Qaeda after they murdered 3000 of our citizens. In the case of Israel, it is thousands of terrorists attacking our ally.

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Originally Posted by SansSouci
As this current phase of Israel's genocide of Palestinian women and children continues, has anyone figured out if in fact three Israeli teenagers were murdered, and if these alleged murders did occur, who was responsible?

American voters are the most gullible voters in the world.


So you think that Israel should do nothing while the terrorists fire their weapons while standing behind their women and children? Your insane if you think so.

Israel should respond to these terrorists the same way we defeated Nazi Germany and Japan in WW2. Hamas chose war and Israel should give it to them until their all dead or they surrender.

You claim of Israeli genocide is insane. When a country attacks another the attacked country has the right to defend it's self even if that results in the deaths of women and children. Furthermore, Israel is going to have to kill a lot more people than the couple of thousand that have died before you can even think of calling it genocide.



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An enemy of the islamic world, is my friend.

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A small tiny dose of reality:
Apologists for Hamas attribute the blood lust to the Israeli occupation and blockade.

Occupation? Does no one remember anything? It was less than 10 years ago that worldwide television showed the Israeli army pulling die-hard settlers off synagogue roofs in Gaza as Israel uprooted its settlements, expelled its citizens, withdrew its military and turned every inch of Gaza over to the Palestinians.

There was not a soldier, not a settler, not a single Israeli left in Gaza.

And there was no blockade. On the contrary. Israel wanted this new Palestinian state to succeed. To help the Gaza economy, Israel gave the Palestinians its 3,000 greenhouses that had produced fruit and flowers for export. It opened border crossings and encouraged commerce.

The whole idea was to establish the model for two states living peacefully and productively side by side. No one seems to remember that, simultaneous with the Gaza withdrawal, Israel dismantled four smaller settlements in the northern West Bank as a clear signal of Israel�s desire to leave the West Bank as well and thus achieve an amicable two-state solution.

This is not ancient history. This was nine years ago.

And how did the Gaza Palestinians react to being granted by the Israelis what no previous ruler, neither Egyptian, nor British, nor Turkish, had ever given them � an independent territory?

First, they demolished the greenhouses. Then they elected Hamas.

Then, instead of building a state with its attendant political and economic institutions, they spent the better part of a decade turning Gaza into a massive military base, brimming with terror weapons, to make ceaseless war on Israel.

Where are the roads and rail, the industry and infrastructure of the new Palestinian state?
Nowhere. Instead, they built mile upon mile of underground tunnels to hide their weapons and, when the going gets tough, their military commanders.
They spent millions importing and producing rockets, launchers, mortars, small arms, even drones.

They deliberately placed them in schools, hospitals, mosques and private homes to better expose their own civilians. (Just Thursday, the U.N. announced that it found 20 rockets in a Gaza school.) And from which they fire rockets at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.
Charles Krauthammer


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Every muslim supporter should go ahead and cut his Mom's, Wife's, Sister's, or Daughter's, nose, clit, or hands off, or maybe even stone them to death. Maybe put them in jail to starve or become whores. Don't let them have an education...All in the name of Satan (allah).

Thats muslims and the respect they deserve folks.

A good muslim is a dead muslim...Period!

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Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
Every muslim supporter should go ahead and cut his Mom's, Wife's, Sister's, or Daughter's, nose, clit, or hands off, or maybe even stone them to death. Maybe put them in jail to starve or become whores. Don't let them have an education...All in the name of Satan (allah).

Thats muslims and the respect they deserve folks.

A good muslim is a dead muslim...Period!
No Muslim supporter here. I just observe that lots of folks in America have been maneuvered into becoming Muslim haters, to include Muslim children. Additionally, the Muslims aren't trying to take my rights away via the US Government while destroying my nation's economy and enslaving us all to debt.

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A good muslim is a dead muslim.

Wanna know when our economy took a dump? The Gov ain't gonna tell you all about that.
I believe it happened just like predicted if the Saudis took their money from our banking system. Given we have Czars and muslim brotherhood in government ran by a [bleep], I'd say the muslims have a stronghold already here Sir. If you don't believe it, tune into Al Jazzier America or long for prayer calls in Michigan.

The problem with your observation is there aren't enough "muslim haters".

You can grow up with them your whole life and think you have a terrific loving relationship, but they don't care no more for you than a fly. They are bred to hate you, kill you, and lie to you.

I'm siding with the American Rednek, Mexico, Korea, India, Japan, China, Russia, and Israel against the worthless Demons.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Additionally, the Muslims aren't trying to take my rights away via the US Government while destroying my nation's economy and enslaving us all to debt.


As a matter of fact a Muslim HAS been for the last six years.......


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Additionally, the Muslims aren't trying to take my rights away via the US Government while destroying my nation's economy and enslaving us all to debt.


As a matter of fact a Muslim HAS been for the last six years.......
Well, if he's a Muslim (which I doubt), he's doing those things with the cooperation and assistance of a lot of non-Muslims in US Government.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
Every muslim supporter should go ahead and cut his Mom's, Wife's, Sister's, or Daughter's, nose, clit, or hands off, or maybe even stone them to death. Maybe put them in jail to starve or become whores. Don't let them have an education...All in the name of Satan (allah).

Thats muslims and the respect they deserve folks.

A good muslim is a dead muslim...Period!
No Muslim supporter here. I just observe that lots of folks in America have been maneuvered into becoming Muslim haters, to include Muslim children. Additionally, the Muslims aren't trying to take my rights away via the US Government while destroying my nation's economy and enslaving us all to debt.



When I said: This is Sick.
Your words are so far divorced from reality that they can only be attributed to a sickness of the mind. A sickness of the soul.

I was not trying to be glib or clever. Just looking at what you have written.
Now those of us who point out the ground truth about the Gaza battlefield between Hamas and Israel are called Muslim children haters by you.

Nothing you have said about this conflict is remotely honest.
And you are not honest when you left out what Radical Muslims have vowed to do to your rights.


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
A small tiny dose of reality:
Apologists for Hamas attribute the blood lust to the Israeli occupation and blockade.

Occupation? Does no one remember anything? It was less than 10 years ago that worldwide television showed the Israeli army pulling die-hard settlers off synagogue roofs in Gaza as Israel uprooted its settlements, expelled its citizens, withdrew its military and turned every inch of Gaza over to the Palestinians.

There was not a soldier, not a settler, not a single Israeli left in Gaza.

And there was no blockade. On the contrary. Israel wanted this new Palestinian state to succeed. To help the Gaza economy, Israel gave the Palestinians its 3,000 greenhouses that had produced fruit and flowers for export. It opened border crossings and encouraged commerce.

The whole idea was to establish the model for two states living peacefully and productively side by side. No one seems to remember that, simultaneous with the Gaza withdrawal, Israel dismantled four smaller settlements in the northern West Bank as a clear signal of Israel�s desire to leave the West Bank as well and thus achieve an amicable two-state solution.

This is not ancient history. This was nine years ago.

And how did the Gaza Palestinians react to being granted by the Israelis what no previous ruler, neither Egyptian, nor British, nor Turkish, had ever given them � an independent territory?

First, they demolished the greenhouses. Then they elected Hamas.

Then, instead of building a state with its attendant political and economic institutions, they spent the better part of a decade turning Gaza into a massive military base, brimming with terror weapons, to make ceaseless war on Israel.

Where are the roads and rail, the industry and infrastructure of the new Palestinian state?
Nowhere. Instead, they built mile upon mile of underground tunnels to hide their weapons and, when the going gets tough, their military commanders.
They spent millions importing and producing rockets, launchers, mortars, small arms, even drones.

They deliberately placed them in schools, hospitals, mosques and private homes to better expose their own civilians. (Just Thursday, the U.N. announced that it found 20 rockets in a Gaza school.) And from which they fire rockets at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.
Charles Krauthammer


Amazing, when you hit the haters with facts like these, they just pretend this post never happened...


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
And you are not honest when you left out what Radical Muslims have vowed to do to your rights.
You're referring to blow back. Look it up. If we weren't there messing with them, they wouldn't know where America was on a map, let alone have any thoughts about America.

But the folks who are, right now as we speak, working within our government and the worldwide banking establishment to enslave us in our own nation, take our gun rights, ruin our culture with mass immigration from alien cultures, destroy our economy, enslave us to debt, and on and on and on, aren't the Muslims.

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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
And you are not honest when you left out what Radical Muslims have vowed to do to your rights.
You're referring to blow back. Look it up. If we weren't there messing with them, they wouldn't know where America was on a map, let alone have any thoughts about America.

But the folks who are, right now as we speak, working within our government and the worldwide banking establishment to enslave us in our own nation, take our gun rights, ruin our culture with mass immigration from alien cultures, destroy our economy, enslave us to debt, and on and on and on, aren't the Muslims.


Do you not recall the barracks bombing in Beruit in 1982 or the World Trade Center bombing in 1993 and then there's 9/11. Your attempt to minimize the Islamist hatred for us by attempting to switch the focus to internal issues is not working. With me or any of the other doubters here.


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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
Do you not recall the barracks bombing in Beruit in 1982 or the World Trade Center bombing in 1993 and then there's 9/11. Your attempt to minimize the Islamist hatred for us by attempting to switch the focus to internal issues is not working. With me or any of the other doubters here.
What's being done to this county within our very own government is many times more serious than the occasional loss of life by Muslim terrorism (i.e., blow back ... look it up). You're many times more likely to die from a bee sting than at the hands of a terrorist of any variety within the US. It's sad that you've been so herded by propaganda into a tunnel vision focus on killing Muslims that you're blind to who are actually destroying us.

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Accurate commentary,..

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/07/eric-margolis/is-the-tail-wagging-the-dog/

An excerpt:

After five decades of patient work, the pro-Israel lobby now gives the US Congress its marching orders on the Mideast. The media in the US and Canada have largely adopted Israel�s narrative about the Mideast and Gaza.

Here in New York City, watching the TV news, one would think Gaza is a nest of demented terrorists threatening Israel�s very existence with �terror tunnels� and �terror rockets.� Hamas, which Israel helped create to split Palestinians, is a �terror organization.� Palestinian children are running in front of Israeli 155mm heavy artillery shells to give Israel a bad name. Interestingly, one of the best source for real news on what�s going on is Israel�s excellent newspaper, �Ha�aretz.�

There is growing anger around the globe over Israel�s savaging of Palestinians, but Americans don�t see this. As the Arab death toll heads tops 1,000, the world is calling for an imposed cease fire and an end to Israel�s and Egypt�s cruel siege of Gaza. America is getting blamed for the horrors of Gaza.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
And you are not honest when you left out what Radical Muslims have vowed to do to your rights.
You're referring to blow back. Look it up. If we weren't there messing with them, they wouldn't know where America was on a map, let alone have any thoughts about America.

But the folks who are, right now as we speak, working within our government and the worldwide banking establishment to enslave us in our own nation, take our gun rights, ruin our culture with mass immigration from alien cultures, destroy our economy, enslave us to debt, and on and on and on, aren't the Muslims.


I would much rather die by the hands of a Muslim due to my gov't "not protecting me enough" (which means it's allowed me to be "too free") than pay through the nose for them to "protect me", wasting my money, and limiting my freedom. I fear my gov't much, much more than Islamic terrorism.

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Originally Posted by efw
I would much rather die by the hands of a Muslim due to my gov't "not protecting me enough" (which means it's allowed me to be "too free") than pay through the nose for them to "protect me", wasting my money, and limiting my freedom. I fear my gov't much, much more than Islamic terrorism.
Amen to that.

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