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1.8 big ones. News just in on the pricks windfall suit in Ca.
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Sure to win him Lots of friends....
Guy will now be a pariah.
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It sucks that he had to sue Kyle's ole lady but the event never happened. Now one has to wonder if Kyle's book is littered with fiction and/or delusion.
While I appreciate both, I'm a fan of niether.
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It sucks that he had to sue Kyle's ole lady but the event never happened.
While I appreciate both, I'm a fan of niether. The insurance company will pay out, not the widow.
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I could retire on 1.8... Jesse ought to do just that. I don't think anyone really wants much more out of him.
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Bummer. He wanted 5 to 15 mill. He got 1.8. Maybe the jury wasn't so convinced after all. Apparently 11 witnesses testified for the defense that, more or less, it happened the way Kyle said. Were their stories that inconsistent?? Jesse had witnesses who said it never happened at all. Interesting.
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1.8 big ones. News just in on the pricks windfall suit in Ca. The suit was heard in fed court in Minneapolis I believe. Not Kali.
Communists: I still hate them even after they changed their name to "liberals".
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The news item I read said that after the jury could not agree, that the judge then instructed them that they did not have to decide whether the event happened but whether Kyle's written and verbal comments defamed Ventura.
I'm not lawyer enough to figure out that logic.
Also, after the jury could not agree, the lawyers for both sides agreed to accept a non-unanimous decision with only (8 or 10?) behind it.
Almost sounds like the judge and both lawyers wanted a decision so badly that they were willing to bend the rules to get one. Seems odd but maybe that is SOP.
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The news item I read said that after the jury could not agree, that the judge then instructed them that they did not have to decide whether the event happened but whether Kyle's written and verbal comments defamed Ventura.
I'm not lawyer enough to figure out that logic.
Also, after the jury could not agree, the lawyers for both sides agreed to accept a non-unanimous decision with only (8 or 10?) behind it.
Almost sounds like the judge and both lawyers wanted a decision so badly that they were willing to bend the rules to get one. Seems odd but maybe that is SOP.
No, that is not right. Truth is always a defense to defamation. Thus, the jury HAD to decide if Kyle had told the truth or not. Since, in his own deposition before he died, he admitted that he had not told the truth regarding the incident, that part was a pretty easy decision. The jury then had to decide if Ventura was damaged and then put a monetary amount to that damage. That was necessarily more difficult. What happened was that the jury told the judge they were deadlocked. The lawyers for the Kyle estate then approached Ventura's lawyers and the judge and proposed to accept a less than unanimous verdict. Ventura's lawyers said they would be happy with a 6-4 decision and Kyle's said they would accept an 8-2 decision. So, eight it was and...eight it was...the other way. Eight people decided Kyle was a liar based on the evidence heard at trial and Kyle's attorneys seriously misjudged what was going on in the jury room.
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It's gratifying to see justice done. People shouldn't be enriched from the lies they (or their spouses) tell in publication form or otherwise.
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How do you defame an azzhole by saying its an azzhole. 
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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How do you defame an azzhole by saying its an azzhole. The jury disagreed with you based on the evidence.
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Makes no difference to me he still is a douche.
As for him getting any money out of me he will be in for a long wait.
Wonder if she would take a donation?
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How do you defame an azzhole by saying its an azzhole. By making up bullstuff stories as to why he is an [bleep].
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The preponderance of evidence is different in a civil suit vs a criminal case. Chris was not there to give his side of the story. Chris isn't a liar and Jesse is who we all know him to be, a POS.
Also, Chris didn't make a penny from the book as he gave all proceeds to the family of his fallen teammates
Chris told the truth and JohnnyLoco can go F himself
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^^^This^^^
Ventura is low life shiit eating POS! Chris told the truth. He was a humble guy and didn't need to lie!
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
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How do you defame an azzhole by saying its an azzhole. The jury disagreed with you based on the evidence. Juries get things wrong sometimes.
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Yep the douche bag should have just got a kick in the nuts for being a whiner....cry baby.
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