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A new office assistant so she had 5 interviews set up for today......2 called and cancelled, 1 called and said she was sick, 1 never called or showed up. She did one interview today and that gal didn't pan out.

WTF! I truly believe the vast majority wants a hand out 'cause they sure the hell don't want to work.

Not enough incentive for them to work.

All they have to do is line up with their hands out...

I lost my job 1.5 yrs ago and landed my job that I have now. I make enough to cover my bills, work 50 hours a week and drive an average of 800 miles a week. Next year I will double my income with the potential to double it again in another 2-3 years. What am I doing wrong?

JD338

No problem whatsoever finding qualified candidates for a part time job opening I advertised this week. Heck, I'd have been happy with 9 out of 10 in the "cull" pile during the boom times 6 years ago. Heck, just happy to HAVE a cull pile.....

Maybe when a job brings home more than $350 a week people will get serious about working.

Maybe - if we QUIT handouts - people would be interested in working. And the economy would take off!

Are you serious? I worked many minimum wages jobs in collage AND GRAD SCHOOL!

Entry level jobs at $8.75 and someone has a problem working at that level? Get a skill or education and then start your career.

If you don't like what minimum wage pays, do something to improve your prospects. There will always be some who won't. It shouldn't be anyone else's problem. Best thing I did was quit school after earning my AA ......and realizing that I wasn't going to go far without finishing. Retiring after 29 years in teaching has me feeling grateful that I stuck with it in the beginning.

sorta like the military. Seems like better than half of recruits are not up to the job.
We are truly lost.

I work in a IT shop that produces in house applications for genetic testing.

Our number one focus is dumbing the apps down to the point where a retarded [bleep] could run things. Because that is about what they are hiring these days.

And these are college grads, supposedly.

Could be better opportunities came up...

or, nobody wants to work for that particular employer. I know lots of businesses that can't seem to find "good" employees, bitch about it, yet never look themselves in the mirror and realize nobody with half a brain would work for them.

Good businesses attract good employees.

My Grand Father was a cowboy prior to the turn of the previous century, 1800s to 1900s. He did the Depression, he did the dust bowl.
He presented me with two very profound bits of wisdom.
Starvation is inspirational.
There's only one thing dumber then a horse and that's the man on top of him.

Not trusting his life experience I had to try both out for myself and found he was correct.

Jim

Don't sweat it.....
He'll never "get" it.....
He's from Oregon.
'Nuff said.


P.S. I used to hire an assistants......I gave up and just do it myself, which wasn't much of a change from when I had the assistants.
Part-Time or seasonal hiring is tough.

Heck Sam come to WV, it's fairly common to bring a 6 pack or even a case of beer to work. I know several guys that would quit if they aren't allowed to drink on the job.

Any one who would have that kind of attitude looking for a job isn't worth a [bleep] anyway. Tells me they have no work ethic and really don't want a job.

Used to be that people had pride in themselves, and would be near starvation before they would take a handout. Not talking about neighbors helping neighbors. Now most will tell you that you are stupid if you do not stick your hand out. miles

I make a little over $300 a week and that pays the mortgage/home insurance, electric and internet.

Frankly, I'm impressed that I can walk into a fast food place and still find people working.

Sadly it sure seems to be going that way. Fundamental change in action.

The ever looming threat of starvation or having to go the "Poor House" was what made this country great. It built a strong economy. Because even if you had no goddamm legs, you could still get yourself propped up and shuck corn, peel potatoes, hell them people would scoot their ass across the ground and set tobacco plants even tend a garden.

Today, I know of a POS drunk driver dude that is paralyzed waist down from (whisky bottles-brand new cars-oak tree youre in my way)
Yet, he milks disability and doesnt hit a lick at anything. Mfker has a newer full size chevy truck diesel and big bass boat and fishes about 200 days a year and smokes pot like a chimney. Plays on facebook all damn day whining and bitching about his life.

Won't take a job nowhere cause it might mess his benefits and TN-Care healthcare freebee status up.

Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!

*College

Try 30K a year. Figure WIC, free med, housing etc. etc.
And that's what your competing with and they don't have to get their fat azz off the couch watching fat azz Oprah.

There ain't no mystery about this, just like there ain't no mystery about why the average American is deep in debt (Interest rates are set below the inflation rate).

Welfare pays more than work ( http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/20/study-welfare-pays-more-than-work-in-most-states/ ) and in order to bring home $350/week in most places you have to be making $11+/hour.

I was just in McDonalds yesterday having a quick breakfast, one of the 'Managers' was interviewing someone for a job in the next booth.
The interviewee interrupted the process to answer and talk on her cell phone!


That one should be an easy decision to make�...

Hey,,, at least three of em called and cancelled.
And you guys say Obamaphones are a waste of money. HA

I watched 3 people walk out at a medical facility. They were there for a physical for an offshore drilling jobs (LA) and were told to piss in a cup for a drug test. They just handed back the cup and walked out.

I guess smoking pot is more important than working.

That drug test should be required for any gov. handouts in ALL states also. Maybe some would straighten out. ED K

OMG! Single people on welfare in Quebec, Canada (with no disabilities) receive $630.00 a month. A lady I know, the same age as me was talking about it at the Doctor's office. I guess she is not impressed as her rent is $425.00 a month. I am not impressed that I pay her rent

AMEN!

ALL welfare recipients should be drug tested monthly before their check is mailed!

Scott;
Top of the morning to you Scott, I hope this finds you and yours doing well. How are the pups doing by the way?

Your pee test story is so familiar up here that it makes my head spin.

One of the companies that my wife is financial controller for did a fairly big mine construction contract in the north. The job paid all sorts of bonus money, decent conditions and company to work for and overall was a sweet set up for construction workers by most accounts. I think it was 14 days in and 7 out - something like that. It was a dry work site and all applicants were told that up front.

Not only that Scott, they were given somewhere north of three weeks to "study for the test" as it were. It's amazing how many BC folks can't step away from the bong or crack pipe for that long.

One of my nephew's is married to an RN who does pee testing full time in northern Alberta. From what I hear there it'a amazing anyone ever gets a drop of that environmentally unfriendly tar sands oil.....

Sometimes I do believe I'm glad I don't understand most other folks Scott - but then you already knew that about me.

Have a good weekend Scott and again all the best to you folks.

Dwayne

I do believe I read something a few days back concerning the 'lucrative welfare states'....and in Hawaii one can collect over $60,000 per year!!

Two of them could have been offered jobs, anybody can get sick, I'd give that person another chance, the one who never called or showed up is toast and one never panned out. It seems only one didn't want to work, maybe.

I was going to pay someone to paint the house this summer. The outcome was the same overall picture as your wife had.
Called 1/2 dozen painters to get an estimate. Two showed up drunk (Not had a few drinks --- Very Drunk)
two more never called or showed up. The others showed up several weeks late.

I made this observation several times. Able bodied men and women (30 somethings) all camped out on porches during the middle of the day. Laffin, poppin beer cans open, washing their motorcycles, waxing their boats, grillin out with 3 or more homies in the front yard during the middle of the work week.

Yeah, I dont make a whole hell of lot more than these people and I'm puttin in about 50 hours a week at this here worky-job thing I do.

As one person above already posted, you can draw close to 25k or more a year and get food, housing, healthcare, college tuition etc. All most of em do is some "side work" like mowing a few lawns, day laboring under the table, window tinting, selling dope and they can stack 400-500 cash to throw around at de club

Lol
Truth be known best painters are drunks.

They might shake dippin the brush but they are masters at the detailed trim work. It's all in how they hold their mouf.



Some rule applies for block layers. If he dont smell like budwieser, he aint no good.

I don't hire/fire anymore, but several friends do. It's amazing how many apply, make the top tier, and then decline when an offer is made. Not once have I ever applied for a job I did not intend to accept.

Many of these have been government jobs and one has to restart the hiring process from day one. Might take a year to fill a position that the private sector could handle in two weeks.

It's especially vexing when ones gone through the process, notified the unsuccessful, and 24 hours before the show date they call to say they've accepted another offer. A lady once did that to me for a temp summer job after I'd jumped through the hoops to arrange a rig and housing for her and a couple kids in a remote environment. She ended the call with a comment that maybe she could work with me next summer.

We had one show up drunk for an interview and then call from jail after rolling his rig and getting a DUI at the first junction north of the shop. Wondered if he got the job.

I can not imagine the tolerance it takes to run a big plant now days.

Early Cuyler? Is that you?

No drunks will be painting/working on my home !

Sometimes when doing retracement surveys of rural farm properties, I can tell you who did the survey and how good it would check, based on the type and number of beer cans around the instrument set-up points.

You could've waited until the interview was over to call....

A sober man will bitching and grumbling about how much painting sucks ass and how his life has somehow taken a wrong turn. Lol

Hire the drunk guy, he will stay focused on his work. Cause, the more work he does the more money he makes, the more beer he can buy.

Hell everbody know dat

My very first full time job way back in 1957 was for a printing outfit that made those cards you see in the paint department at hardware stores. I got a promotion to the paint room where we spray painted the 6x8 foot paper with the colors needed by the customer. Mostly we used laquer but sometime enamel or some of the other type paints. Funny thing is after work we'd stop at the local pub for a beer and they would serve me even though I was only 18 at the time and baby faced as hell. I still got carded in my late 20's. Anywat, not that I'm excusing drunken painters but after smelling those fumes from the paint, thinners involved, one beer will literally knock you out. Bt the time I got home, it's 7 miles from the parking lot to my house at the time, I was literally totally shiiiitefaced. Much as I liked that after work beer I switched to ice tea or Coke.
Shortly after I got that job I was able to get my first car, a 1949 Ford two door club coupe. It was owned by an old couple and was totally mint. Three days later while stopped at an arterial stop sign with my left turn signal blinking a drunken painter hit my stopped vehicle at an estimated 60 MPH as estimated by the police by where my car was stopped after the impact. The driver hadn't even tried to use his brakes and the cops said he was probably passed out when he hit me. I've had a bad back ever since and when I tried to sue he didn't even have any insurance nor even a dime to his name. Oh well.
Paul B.

Face it guys....this 'ain't' the same America us old pharts grew up in!!

We hired 5 a few weeks ago. Not one of them will ever be electricians. My helper can't pull a piece of mc cable that is long enuff. He will measure it and cut it first then its to short. My head almost exploded today after I got up on a ladder to hang a exit sign. You guessed it, wire wouldn't reach. He is on my mf'n nerves! He's 34 and is a dam kid so is his brother who is 38. Useless as a dik on a chick. My boss won't let me fire him. None of the new guys can use tools, when they use their tools it looks like a new born calf trying to walk. WTH?

We're trying to hire a steel fabricator, good money, decent benefits, nobody has passed the "math test".
If you can measure and build a stair and handrail with your own math skills, you can have the job!

Having to hire young and grow our own, hope they don't bounce too soon...

Hiring young and bringing someone along might be the best way to do it in the long run.

Not saying there aren't incompetent folks around but a lot of folks just need a helping hand, or rather someone to show them the ropes. People tend to forget that they had to spend 10-20-30 years doing what they're doing to get where they are.

When I got my first job as a computer programmer I was fresh out of school and while I knew how to write code I was still a newb. My supervisor would ride me mercilessly because I didn't have the same knowledge that he had after 20 years of experience. He could have taught me a lot, instead he chose to constantly give me a hard time about my inexperience so after a couple of hard years getting some time on my resume I finally told him to get f*cked and walked off with no prior notice.

You see a lot of that in other areas - folks come here sneering at some newby they heard asking newby questions at a gun counter. None of us were born knowing what our experience taught us over the years.

Just saying, maybe someone is a total screwup, or maybe they want to learn but don't know everything yet and could use someone with a little patience and understanding to show them the tricks of the trade.

There's a lot of truth to that. Employers want a lot nowadays, they want someone fully trained, ready to hit the ground running with no training required who'll show up early and stay late, and they want it for minimum wage.

Like it or not employers are competing with Obama's welfare state for employees. Whether or not that's the way you or I feel it should be, that's the fact at this point in time. If you're trying to hire an office assistant and can't do it at the pay offered then that means you're not offering enough pay. Any job is fillable for the right pay. I know many think that job shouldn't pay more than minimum wage because they dug ditches for minimum wage when they were in college, but if the market dictates you have to pay more for a competent office assistant then that's what you pay or do without. Fireball was jumped on for saying a job needs to pay more than $350 a week but he's right. The government inflation numbers are BS and the cost of living has easily doubled in the last ten years, wages haven't kept pace. Yea, you could get people to work for less if you cut out all the welfare, starvation is a powerful motivator, but that'll never happen with the democrats in power. There's too many votes to be bought by redistributing money to people for not working. Since welfare's not going away, an employer has to compete against it and that means paying more than minimum wage if they want competent help. It's not enough to dismiss it by saying "if they wanted more than minimum wage they should have gone to college". Not everyone needs to be a manager, there's too many chiefs and not enough indians in the workforce already.

Good workers are still out there, you're just not going to get them by paying poverty wages.

The job starts out at $12.75 (510.00), Just a tad above Fireballs $350.00.

This.

I supposedly retired over two years ago but agreed to help out if I was really needed. I tell them no quite often but do work if it fits in my schedule and worked about 50 days last year. I just finished working the last three days and had three different folks ask me if I wouldn't come back to work full time!! I'm on the wrong side of 70 years old and can't seem to get it through my head why there aren't people willing to learn the trade I'm in. (Stationary Engineer) The employer is even willing to train someone who is interested enough to commit themselves to learn the trade. So far, no luck. It just blows my mind.

$26.5 K a year in a state with a fairly high cost of living.

This article says average welfare benefits for a single mother with two kids is $28.9 K per year in Michigan.

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/19008

She'd be taking a $2400/yr pay cut to take that job, and that's for someone with presumably no job skills. Now try and find a GOOD worker & tell them they're worth $2400 a year less than some welfare mooch. That's the reason they can't fill the job.

The problem, in one picture



From Zerohedge

Lynn, you are going to confuse people as to which country is more socialist today..

John

I hadn't thought of or checked the welfare stats, Shocking to say the least. we are headed the same way as Greece, I just wonder how long.

I showed the wife, she's not happy but will have to work inside the parameters she's been given.

As much as I'd like to agree, completely, it is America's welfare state. And it got that way with the help of both parties.

After taxes I'm not much more than that. When figured hourly it comes out to about $7-8/hour.

7-8 months out of the year it might even be less than minimum wage now that I think about it.


I'd be fuuckin' rich if OT was part of the deal!




And every time I drive through town, no matter what time of day....
I see groups of people in their 20-40's with a pack of kids following them around.

Their worthless lazy family takes in way more $$$ for doing nothing but irresponsibly breeding. I makes me [bleep]' sick.

Have to say, I agree with the OP on this. I spent March 3 to May 5 unemployed, and was offered fulltime employment with benefits on June 16. During the unemployment, I had an experience that y'all might find interesting. A company that was makes 9-speed auto trannys was quad-drippling in size, and had a hiring fair. I went, got there 20 minutes after it started and found myself in a line that looked like it was from the USSR, or maybe a new ride @ Disney - I was not even anywhere near the building, out in the parking lot, and the building was the size of a school (It was a mega-church). A fair assessment was that there were 100+ peeps in front of me....and there was a second line equally as long on the other side of the building.
So I am in line, and I can hear someone talking very loud making announcements, and the line starts moving....like Disney just closed a ride.
I see a STREAM of people walking back, all half my age or less (I am 50), many using cellphones or texting. In no time flat, I find myself in the building, and the announcements start again. Turns out it is the recruiting company, and they are making the usual announcements any company would make to blue-collar workers: No shift preference, No Criminal record, Random drug testing. You may have to switch shifts with little notice. there are two 10 hour shifts for the floor, and a 8-9 hour shift for the office, depending on what is needed. Many of the ones giving up and walking away are grumbling things like "Man, dey kray-zee!", "Dat's not worth it.", "No way...."
So anyway, I am there just shy of one hour. After all the people left, I found myself in front of a recruiter, and very shortly got the info I was looking for, was able to present my resume. 2 weeks later, I started the new job, albeit a strictly temp one.

Point is, there ARE people, a portion of the younger generation, not sure how large, that I am convinced do not want to work, or such a belief of entitlement that they will not ever find any meaningful employment.

I said "When a job brings home more than $350 a week..."
$510 after taxes is $350.