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I read an article in F&S.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Crap! I knew you'd have a good answer!
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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Campfire Kahuna
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It was mainly the pictures,that I remember................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I saw some .223AI brass, for real, in person once.
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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Campfire Kahuna
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I may solicit the Forum and ask for someone to Mail me one,as a picture is worth 1000 words and bird in hand must be good for 1,000,000................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Its rare you know. Kinda like a 'wildcat' or something...
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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Campfire Kahuna
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I bet somebody has one,they'd sell..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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Campfire Kahuna
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It'll happen...some day.
The Turtle is a strong finisher................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Am I the only one that scrounges the bench for bullets and powder I no longer use, and do my fire forming with that�middle of the charts loads�..? Exactly what I do when fire forming. I just returned from fire forming some 35 Whelen AI brass this morning. I bought some cheap 358 bullets of various weights off this website for this task. I just weight sorted and loaded my powder charges according to bullet weight. I ended up with 200, 220 and 250 grain loads, but they all are forming perfectly. Kinda fun to just sit back and ring the 4" square gong with the old Weaver K4 that came with the rifle.
Goofy aka graybird on other forums
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I had really good luck forming LC brass... Just load em and shoot em..
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Just a quick update: I have been shooting my AI quite a bit and have had good luck fire forming 1x fired LC brass with 50 and 55 grain bullets and a near max charge of h335. accuracy fire forming has been wonderful.
I am seriously loving this rifle and this great little cartridge so far
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A consistent fire forming load like that will give you good accuracy, I think Steelhead takes a similar route, I just grab culls and piece together loads, hence my fire forming loads are not 'match' grade You will like the AI cartridge�.
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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It is hard to USE UP an AI barrel, they just keep on ticking!
Fire forming with loads that are full pressure loads can leade to case stretching. If you use a 7mm ogive gage on your caliper, insert the 223 AI case neck into the ogive gage and measure....BINGO....you can measure the length of the cases in various lengths of fireforming. I made a mistake in the above statement,I meant to say that if you don't use full pressure loads to fire form, it will leade to case stretching. I always fire form with full pressure loads, and Big Stick's statement on head spacing is dead nuts accurate and can not be stressed enough...crush fit on the case. I did not elaborate on just what a pain the azz LC brass can be. Depending on how good a particular lot# of LC runs, the brass can be great, or poor which will drive you crazy. I run Lake City on my short range coyote hunting. I sort all Lake City brass by year. If you want excellent results right out of the gate, don't go lake city, set up yourself for success by getting great components from the start. If you build a total custom rifle, then use Lake City, it May end up like wearing a three piece suit to your daughters wedding and wearing dirty tennis shoes with holes in them to save a few bucks on the rental fee of the tux.
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