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I just ordered a Remington 700 SPS Varmint Rifle in 308 Win. (it has the 26" heavy barrel). Now I have to decide which scope I want to get for it. I really like Leupold Scopes. I had an issue with one of their scopes years ago and they went out of their way to fix it for me and then air shipped back on a Saturday so I would have it for the following Mondays opening day for deer season. That really meant a lot to me so I'm a very dedicated Leupold customer so I'm going to stick with a Leupold Scopes and Mounts.

The rifle is going to be mostly a target rifle that I'll add things to it as I go. Like a Timney Trigger, maybe a better stock, a bi pod and things like that. My budget for a new scope will be $500 to $550 not including the mounting system. I want a good high power scope.

I/we currently have five Leupolds, a VX-I 2-7x28mm Rimfire on our S&W MP15-22, a VX-II 2-7x33mm on my Rem. 7600 Carbine 30-06, a VX-1 2-7x33mm that I switch back and forth with QD mounts between that and my Aimpoint PRO on my Colt AR15 Carbine 223/5.56 (MT6400) this setup works awesome, a VX-1 3x9x40mm "lady's edition" on my wife's Rem. 700 Compact 243 Win. and a VX-II 4-12x40mm adj. opt. on my Remington 700 BDL 223 Rem. It's a tact driver and I really like that scope.

So I'm looking for a scope similar to my VX-II 4-12x40mm adj. opt. for my 308. However I'm not sure if I really need a scope with an adjustable optic. What do you guys think, I don't know the pro's and con's between having a 40mm or 50mm objective? I'm thinking maybe I should get something like a VX-2 series 4-12x40mm or 4-12x50mm, or a VX-3 4.5-14x40 for my 308 Win. Or maybe get a VX-2 6-18x40mm and put that on my Rem. 700 223 Rem. (I shoot A LOT SMALLER THINGS with my 223 then I will with my 308) then put my VX-II 4-12x40 adj. opt. from my 223 on my Rem. 700 308 Win. I've also been considering the fixed power FX-3 12x40mm adj. opt. for my 308.

Will the Mark AR Mod 1 4-12x40mm or 6-18x40mm Scopes work on a 308 Win.? I like the tactical look and the idea of being able to use adjustment nobs for elevation adjustments. However, the marking on the scope/caps are for 223/5.56. Can I get them for a 308?

How do "fine reticles" work on larger caliber rifles for long range shooting? I really like the "LR duplex" reticles but I might be limited to the "fine duplex" reticles on most of the scopes I'm looking at. What about the Custom Dial System (CDS), is that worth getting? How does it work?

Thanks for reading my short story, and I appreciate all the help and input I can get, NYH1.


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3.5-10x with an M1 elevation turret would be hard to beat.

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If you want "high power" then you want a parallax adjustment, be it side or objective.

Not a fan of the Leupold 6-18x40.

The 4.5-14x40 doesn't really turn my crank either.

I like my VX-II 4-12x40AO, but it has a lot of eye relief even by my standards. If you use that scope, make sure the mounts you choose will allow you to get it forward far enough.

When you say Leupold mounts, which ones do you mean? There are many styles of those, some being less than ideal.

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As 1" tubes grow in their length,their zero retention wanes. 3.5-10x or bust there.

I'd go DD 30mm 10x MQ FF and rock it on the sly...............



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I have a. VX2 in 6-18x40 and it's a good scope, but prefer the 4.5-14 scopes that I have - both of which have the VH reticle. I've used a Leupold 4.5-14 for a very long time, and think that's just about the perfect magnification range for hunting, along with 4-16.

If you really want to get precise, I'm a huge fan of the 6.5-20 LR scope with the TMR reticle (SFP). Great varmint scope.

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If the 4.5-14 was an "easy" scope like the 3.5-10, then I'd have more of them. But it isn't, so I don't.

I skip past it to the 6.5-20x40LR.

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I suppose that it's reasonable that folks would want a scope with magnification range that fits their needs. I like about 4 power on the low end for when I'm in the woods, and I like the 14 on the edge of the hay field. As much as I like the 6.5-20x50 with the TMR reticle, the 6.5 is (to me) a bit much for the woods.

A 5-25 or a 5-20 would also suit me just fine, though I just don't need another scope.

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The "demands" of your "needs" and "use"...wouldn't knock the new off of a used pair of boots.

The 6-18x is the most wandering POS Leupold has yet to offer.

Hint..................


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I've got or shot every glass you cite.

In 1" the 6x42 and 3.5-10x are KING.

In 30mm the MK4 3.5-10x(M1) and MK4 M1 10x are KING. The MK4 6x would be in the thick,were it wearing M1' in a like rotation.

You want M1,M1,M1...roughly in that order and flush the CDS notion with the rest of the turds.

Hint..................


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If the OP is a Hunter, then he would only (normally) be shooting out to about 400. With a 308 he doesn't need BDC or CDS. But, if he was shooting out to 1000, his optics needs are way different, and the scope will likely need turrets.

That said, I really have become fond of the Leupold Varmint Hunter reticle, being a hunter with shots that won't exceed 500 yards. And to say it again, I really like that TMR reticle that Leupold offers. I had it put in my 6.5-20x50 LR.

CDS is just a dial version of BDC, but better. Not at all a bad choice for a Hunter.

The OP can get a great Leupold scope for less than $1k, and it will be all a hunter needs.

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I forgot to mention that there are ballistic apps that, if you know MV and bullet BC, you can determine exactly what distances the BDC are good for. I like iStrelok for the iPad.

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You are beyond CLUELESS!

CDS and BDC's are "good" for nothing. I'm all ears in regards to the TMR and substension and I can't wait for you to start "telling" me more.

Laughing.

Here I was under the suspicion,that an M1 eagerly accomodated all bullets,at all speeds and in all atmospheres,to the end of the erector's travel? My bad.

WOW................



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I really HOPE this is not going to be an awkward silence!..............


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A small number of people defend you and speak highly of you. They must see something I don't.

The OP asked for scope info and I offered my opinion. You offered nothing beyond insults, which seems consistent with your normal approach. I don 't understand why you do what you do, but I really don't care.

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I have a SWFA SS 12X MIl/MIL scope on my SPS .308 varmint rifle,good glass and turrets .

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Originally Posted by 603Country
A small number of people defend you and speak highly of you. They must see something I don't.

The OP asked for scope info and I offered my opinion. You offered nothing beyond insults, which seems consistent with your normal approach. I don 't understand why you do what you do, but I really don't care.


You "offered" Drooling Dumbfhuqqery via your "knowledge","experience" and "results".

Trouble is,you are lacking enough brains,to be aware of how [bleep] stupid you are...which in fairness,is a right proper Dichotomy and of perpetually hilarious oblivious dumbfhuqqery.

Looking forward to you sharing more of your keen "insight" and PLEASE do not keep those pearls to yourself.

Laughing!.................





Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Originally Posted by crow_sniper
I have a SWFA SS 12X MIl/MIL scope on my SPS .308 varmint rifle,good glass and turrets .


I prefer the 10X,if only because I have both...but that glass is farrrrrrrrr and away the most for the least.

Easy to arrange 100MOA/30Mils + on the erector,after a 200yd zero...................


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I don't flog nearly as hard as stick and some of these fellas, but the super chickens are a pretty damn good way to go. Don't really see how you can go wrong for the price.

I only have two so far, both 16x.. One on a .22 and the other on the .223 5R here.
The .308 5R will soon be getting upgraded mounts and prolly 12xFF. That's not to say I don't like the leopold, cause I do, but these rifles set up same same I think is gonna be a hoot.. [Linked Image]


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10 Mils on the windshield and another 30 or so on the erector,will do nice things.

Or so I hear...............


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