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guns clubs, shooting ranges, etc.? What is everyone's opinion?
I believe background checks should be done on all members and if you are a convicted felon, you should not even have a firearm, much less be a member. Just wondering what everyone thinks.
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Depends on the felony and how rehabilitated one has become.
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according to the charge. Tax evasion and domestic violence are opposite ends of the spectrum. I wouldn't mind shooting beside someone who cheated on their taxes, etc.
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according to the charge. Tax evasion and domestic violence are opposite ends of the spectrum. I wouldn't mind shooting beside someone who cheated on their taxes, etc. Pretty sure you already do. They just ain't got caught . . . . .  BMT
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This sort of thinking from the OP is how more and more gun control is passed.
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Our club does do background checks. Also, I agree that it would depend on the felony and when it took place. It could have happened as a teenager and they are now 50+ and never had any more trouble. I believe it is better to forgive and forget.
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I don't know how i feel about it, but it reminds me of a personal story. In the dark ages, when i was playing popo as a reserve i passed the oral interview which was a formality anyway as they all knew me, but i was approved to wear a uniform and go out on patrol. I had a hesitation that i brought up that i didn't want to do that not being armed. The question I got was "are you going to shoot anybody that doesn't need shooting?" I answered probably not, okay you can have a gun. The very next weekend i was facing down a drunk with a .357mag revolver behind whiskey row that was threatening to kill somebody. I am not even sure they RAN a background check on me.
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I have a friend who got on pills when he was young. He sold a few to pay for a few for himself. Went to jail for 2 years. The system sets these guys up for failure but he did his probationary time, paid his officer, kept his nose clean and is now a really good dude. I'm in the mindset of most that have already posted,, depends on what they did. Tax evation cool, domestic violence not cool, child molester, yeah I'll shoot with you but I will probably have an accident that will result in a large hole in your head.
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The bill of Rights does not restrict felons from owning firearms.
A right denied to one will become a right denied to all.
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The bill of Rights does not restrict felons from owning firearms.
A right denied to one will become a right denied to all.
Agreed. If they can't be trusted with a full slate of rights, either don't release them from prison or bury them.
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guns clubs, shooting ranges, etc.? What is everyone's opinion?
I believe background checks should be done on all members and if you are a convicted felon, you should not even have a firearm, much less be a member. Just wondering what everyone thinks. why not. in many states they can work in restaurants kitchens and serve food while they are treated for aids, hiv, impetigo, scabies, tb, herpes, lice, flu, colds etc.
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I know guys in their 40's who got convicted of felony assault at the age of 20, served a little time, who are fine upstanding citizens.
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Seems like there is a question on ATF Form 4473 that asks if the purchaser has ever been convicted of a felony. Not sure what happens if you answer yes...
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Never heard of club membership being an issue. A firearm in hand, however, is another deal entirely.
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The bill of Rights does not restrict felons from owning firearms.
A right denied to one will become a right denied to all.
It used to be that once a person "paid their debt to society" they had all of their rights. Now a felon never gets all of their rights back. Look at all the laws that make a person a felon if they violate them. It seems the bar gets lower all the time. Our club does not perform background checks. We are not the police. Abide by the club rules and you are fine. As to felons, don't ask , don't tell is our unofficial policy. Ernie
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This sort of thinking from the OP is how more and more gun control is passed. Completely disagree. This is a private & voluntary club/association we're talking about, not the government. Private clubs & associations should be free to operate in whatever fashion and under whatever rules the members deem appropriate. As to the question... I am old school. If a person has paid his debt to society I have no problem shooting next to him.
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Did a murderer who served 8 of a 24 year sentence serve his time?
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If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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Have a fight with your brother, get convicted of domestic violence.
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If the individual can legally own a gun, IMHO he or she has every right to join a hunting or shooting club.
Gun clubs seem to be rife with busy bodies and doo gooders. Me thinks we'd be better off if folks spent more time minding their own business.
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Did a murderer who served 8 of a 24 year sentence serve his time? If he has not escaped from prison yeah.
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