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It's just another corn adjunct fizz water.
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We feed beef cattle in two categories, main group for sale barn and the other for home consumption.
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The two things most important things in life: incredible food and stunning women.
Argentina baby!
That's saying nothing about millions of birds, big game, trout. Unbelievable country with everything a guy could want. I'd like to go to Patagonia
The political situation leaves something to be desired... LOL
I suspect there is a good reason so many Nazis fled to South America after Germany's surrender. Subtropical South America, especially Argentina is stable, off the radar and a NICE place with high quality living. Hypothetically (or maybe not) if the time comes to leave the US, you'll either find me in either Cordoba or La Pampa Provinces, or possibly the South Island of New Zealand. Sorry for the tangent. Back to the beef please.
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The two things most important things in life: incredible food and stunning women.
Argentina baby!
That's saying nothing about millions of birds, big game, trout. Unbelievable country with everything a guy could want. I'd like to go to Patagonia
The political situation leaves something to be desired... LOL
I suspect there is a good reason so many Nazis fled to South America after Germany's surrender. Subtropical South America, especially Argentina is stable, off the radar and a NICE place with high quality living. Hypothetically (or maybe not) if the time comes to leave the US, you'll either find me in either Cordoba or La Pampa Provinces, or possibly the South Island of New Zealand. Sorry for the tangent. Back to the beef please. Argentina is a socialist nightmare.
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Their gov does suck ass, no doubt.
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I'm not a fan of marbling myself but a lot of people obviously like it. me neither, guess im just used to our local beef....a steak from a feedlot tastes horribly greasy to me.....but i was raised on the local grass fed beef like Sam....
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I love grass fed beef as well. Definitely different, but tasty in its own right!
Sammo- That steak looks GREAT! You sell beeves to the common man?
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There's no finer beef than what is raised in Argentina.
Hey now! ![[Linked Image]](http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/montanasam/Summer2014005-4.jpg) I am with Sam on this subject. That is a fine looking meal. A cow's digestive system is perfectly tuned to run on young tender grass. The most efficient use of pasture ground is to rotates the pastures and even clip them with a mower after grazing to keep the cattle on young tender grass. In the real world of ranching, such is seldom possible. The pastures get tall and tough, and even go to seed while the cows are out on range land. With my small property, I can keep the pastures short. I usually castrate a bull calf the day it hits the ground. Less stressful on the calf and on me. I keep the steer on a diet of sweet tender short grass w/ white clover in the summer and alfalfa/orchard grass hay through the winter and never let him get a taste of grain. I like to start with a good Angus or Hereford steer, or crossbreed of the two, and raise them in this manner. IMHO, the only improvement possible to this regimen would be if a guy could run the steer up and down the side of a five thousand foot mountain for the first year of its life to give it some muscle tone.
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Come to think of it, of all the places I have travelled in the world, only in the US is there any amount of fat people. I'e been to all 6 inhabitable continents and the US (maybe Canada too) is the only place like that.
You must not have been to Germany or the UK then. I'm in Germany right now and saw plenty of fat people walking around today. The UK has their share also.
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When we have a calf to eat,we put him/her on the Kline grass pasture and when they have been there a while you can see the weight gain.
They get a no.10 can of cracked corn in the AM.and in the PM.
For about 30 days or so.
After eating home grown it's a sad day when you have to get some from the store.
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Come to think of it, of all the places I have travelled in the world, only in the US is there any amount of fat people. I'e been to all 6 inhabitable continents and the US (maybe Canada too) is the only place like that.
You must not have been to Germany or the UK then. I'm in Germany right now and saw plenty of fat people walking around today. The UK has their share also. just spent 3 weeks in Adelaide Australia.....after lots of people watching while wandering around downtown and the college ild say the average Aussie is packing just as much extra weight as the average American....if not more.....actually was a bit disappointed after hearing all the stuff bout all the gorgeous Aussie women...on a per cap basis the college towns in Montana are better....
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I love grass fed beef as well. Definitely different, but tasty in its own right!
Sammo- That steak looks GREAT! You sell beeves to the common man?
MM, we always end up butchering something that isn't 'fit' for the sales ring. Current beef had a bad hoof(froze when born) and walked with limp. Of course the meat is fine but they'd steal him at market. He did get barley cake last winter and is fairly marbled(a little too much IMO), not finished on 100% grass. Kept him with a bull and an old cow we were babying through winter so he got fat. Pretty much standard practice for anyone raising beef to butcher the oddball critter. We have a couple more steers that also have a little hitch in their get-a-long, start making room in your freezer....grin We don't use any hormones/steroids/weird growth chit and very little antibiotics. The usual vaccinations is about it. There is actual a little premium paid by the buyers for 'organic' calves but we can't call ours 'organic'. As for foreign beef I have no idea how strict Argentina is on their cattle/processing. It's bad enough here in the states with canner cows, can't imagine they are any 'cleaner' and probably a lot worse when it comes to the overall quality of the product. Of course I am biased, maybe they only butcher healthy animals and give the old cancer eyes to the dogs......yeah right. Guessing the USDA is way tighter on regulating that any South American country.
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Right on Sam!
Our "poorest" beef is a treat for a king.
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Richard, the current beef was nicknamed "The Cripster".
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Come to think of it, of all the places I have travelled in the world, only in the US is there any amount of fat people. I'e been to all 6 inhabitable continents and the US (maybe Canada too) is the only place like that.
You must not have been to Germany or the UK then. I'm in Germany right now and saw plenty of fat people walking around today. The UK has their share also. just spent 3 weeks in Adelaide Australia.....after lots of people watching while wandering around downtown and the college ild say the average Aussie is packing just as much extra weight as the average American....if not more.....actually was a bit disappointed after hearing all the stuff bout all the gorgeous Aussie women...on a per cap basis the college towns in Montana are better.... I guess our experiences differ, or my definition of fat is different. Europe definitely has over weight people, no doubt. I did not mirror Rattler's observations in Australia though. I didn't get to wander much though to the "normal areas as I was on a military base while there. That may very well have been the difference. In any event, I MUCH prefer the taste of a marbled steak, but there is no doubt grass fed is healthier.
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I love grass fed beef as well. Definitely different, but tasty in its own right!
Sammo- That steak looks GREAT! You sell beeves to the common man?
MM, we always end up butchering something that isn't 'fit' for the sales ring. Current beef had a bad hoof(froze when born) and walked with limp. Of course the meat is fine but they'd steal him at market. He did get barley cake last winter and is fairly marbled(a little too much IMO), not finished on 100% grass. Kept him with a bull and an old cow we were babying through winter so he got fat. Pretty much standard practice for anyone raising beef to butcher the oddball critter. We have a couple more steers that also have a little hitch in their get-a-long, start making room in your freezer....grin We don't use any hormones/steroids/weird growth chit and very little antibiotics. The usual vaccinations is about it. There is actual a little premium paid by the buyers for 'organic' calves but we can't call ours 'organic'. As for foreign beef I have no idea how strict Argentina is on their cattle/processing. It's bad enough here in the states with canner cows, can't imagine they are any 'cleaner' and probably a lot worse when it comes to the overall quality of the product. Of course I am biased, maybe they only butcher healthy animals and give the old cancer eyes to the dogs......yeah right. Guessing the USDA is way tighter on regulating that any South American country. Yep. No parasites in those free range Argentine critters. They're the best. There are no pastures in NA......
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LOL, fat or not matters none, all commercial beef is steroided, hormoned and iradiated, it's all trash, just some of the trash will make you fatter.
Grass fed unfu-ked with beef and wild game is all that's consumed here. We only have wild game. Any beef must be grass fed with no steroids or hormones with my hx of cancer. I eat a "regular" cheeseburger about 3-4x's a year.
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Come to think of it, of all the places I have travelled in the world, only in the US is there any amount of fat people. I'e been to all 6 inhabitable continents and the US (maybe Canada too) is the only place like that.
You must not have been to Germany or the UK then. I'm in Germany right now and saw plenty of fat people walking around today. The UK has their share also. just spent 3 weeks in Adelaide Australia.....after lots of people watching while wandering around downtown and the college ild say the average Aussie is packing just as much extra weight as the average American....if not more.....actually was a bit disappointed after hearing all the stuff bout all the gorgeous Aussie women...on a per cap basis the college towns in Montana are better.... I guess our experiences differ, or my definition of fat is different. Europe definitely has over weight people, no doubt. I did not mirror Rattler's observations in Australia though. I didn't get to wander much though to the "normal areas as I was on a military base while there. That may very well have been the difference. In any event, I MUCH prefer the taste of a marbled steak, but there is no doubt grass fed is healthier. dont get me wrong, there were plenty of good looking women but after everyone talking up how many gorgeous women are in Oz it was interesting to find out that unless your into all shapes of Asian women per cap your gonna see higher percentages on an average college campus here in the states....and Aussies on average are no more fit than those in the states, hell ive even seen an actual study saying they are less so.... but i am a sucker for a good looking brunette with an Aussie accent so do want to go back before long 
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Beef finished with corn is the way to go.
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Richard, the current beef was nicknamed "The Cripster".
Sam ever hear you shouldn't name your food (grin) daughters named the steers for butcher Ham and Burger. They go to freezer camp in November
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