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The 45 ACP and 357 don't seem to be talked about much anymore. Have they been declining or just about these days.
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Where is that?
Here, seems like there are posts on both the 45acp and 357 mag most of the days a month, every month, going back forever. Using the search engine, it would be hard to find a time in the last year they were not talked about.
Sales, it sure seems like both are in the top four or five for commercial ammunition. Both have tons of support with dies and such, so don't see much slowing down in that corner.
Just curious, in what corner do you find the 45acp and 357 mag long forgotten and no longer mentioned?
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They're no more obsolete than the 30-06.
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They're no more obsolete than the 30-06. That sounds like the old swampy 700
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The 45 ACP and 357 don't seem to be talked about much anymore. Have they been declining or just about these days. I don't know about the .357 but there are whole forums dedicated to the 1911 and the .45 ACP.
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45ACP and 357 magnum tend to be standards other calibers are compared too! Both great cartridges that will be around for a long time to come.
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The 45 ACP and 357 don't seem to be talked about much anymore. Have they been declining or just about these days. Are you on drugs? Should you be?
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The .45 ACP has never been more alive and well in the civilian market, but the .357 Mag is on the way out. Defensive revolvers themselves are on the way out, and the .357 Mag has been no closer than 4th place amongst handgun hunters for decades.
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The .45 ACP has never been more alive and well in the civilian market, but the .357 Mag is on the way out. Defensive revolvers themselves are on the way out, and the .357 Mag has been no closer than 4th place amongst handgun hunters for decades. Were are you getting this stat? The .357 is not going anywhere IMO although good ammo can be hard to come by some times.
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The .45ACP is one of the two greatest centerfire cartridges ever invented, the other being the '06. The .45 ACP is the preeminent self-defense cartridge, especially when paired with a 1911A1.
The .357 Mag, while beneficiary to mostly undeserved accolades, might just be the best trail gun ever invented. 6 180 grain .357 Mag rounds would convince black bears to look elsewhere for dinner. Loaded with shot, it'll tear the hell outta rattlers and take game birds within reasonable distance. With suitable magnum rounds, it'll reliably take deer. With .38 Special wadcutters, it'll reliably take small game. With .38 Special 158 grain LSWCHP +P, it's a pretty good self-defense gun. Add to all of that that it's the largest magnum revolver that probably 90% of all hand gunners can shoot without recoil becoming an issue make the .357 Mag one of the best revolver cartridges ever designed.
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The .45 ACP has never been more alive and well in the civilian market, but the .357 Mag is on the way out. Defensive revolvers themselves are on the way out, and the .357 Mag has been no closer than 4th place amongst handgun hunters for decades. Were are you getting this stat? The .357 is not going anywhere IMO although good ammo can be hard to come by some times. Start a thread asking for advice on a hunting cartridge and see how the .357 Mag fares. I agree, the .357 Mag isn't going anywhere, but its popularity peaked around 1970, crashed during the '80's, and has become a niche cartridge. Kinda like the 10mm.
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Not even close to becoming obsolete.......
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Start a thread asking for advice on a hunting cartridge and see how the .357 Mag fares.
That's because every billy bob badass thinks he needs a 500 magnum to kill a 150 pound deer.
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Two of the most business like cartridges you'll find in my opinion.
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That's because every billy bob badass thinks he needs a 500 magnum to kill a 150 pound deer. No doubt, but whether you or I think it's a good move the .357 Mag has been largely replaced. Once upon a time a S&W .357 Mag was the most common cartridge at the range - everyone had at least one revolver so chambered. Nowadays I might not see one, and I don't know a shooter under 30-years old that has one. .357 Mag revolvers dominated the LEO market. I can't remember the last time a saw a cop carrying one.
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The 45 ACP and 357 don't seem to be talked about much anymore. Have they been declining or just about these days. No.
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No doubt, but whether you or I think it's a good move the .357 Mag has been largely replaced. Once upon a time a S&W .357 Mag was the most common cartridge at the range - everyone had at least one revolver so chambered. Nowadays I might not see one, and I don't know a shooter under 30-years old that has one.
.357 Mag revolvers dominated the LEO market. I can't remember the last time a saw a cop carrying one.
I have to admit it has been at almost a month since I have fired either a 357 or a 45ACP.
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Anyone who studies firearms and cartridges for longer than 10 minutes will see the merits of both of these rounds. I can't fathom that will change anytime soon. 357 is the ultimate crossover outdoors/sd cartridge. In the hands of a skilled marksman, it will take any game on the continent. It has.
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What does "merit" have to do with it? The definition of "obsolete" is 'replaced with something newer'.
If you don't think the .357 Mag has been almost completely replaced for serious self-defense and hunting use you're in dreamland. That has nothing to do with effectiveness - simply that the buyers voted and the .357 Mag lost.
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