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The thought is that since you are paid from the public coffer that whatever you pay back in taxes doesn't count.
It was in Yiddish, i had to translate it on Google.
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The above special times aside, what do you look like on a regular basis when you are on patrol or walking a beat, if you even do that? ATVs or bikes is the norm for us, if we're not on foot. So our uniform fits the task. It's about as far from shined shoes and bus driver hats as you can get. But it's also about as far from a military uniform as you can get. Running shoes Blue cargo shorts And a super reflective "i'mrightherepleasedon'trunoverme" shirt Where do you put the steel plates?
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Police need to be militarized to do their job. They are in a war against various forms of crimes committed by civilians and as such have to approach US civilians like any other army would approach their enemy. It is also why police use the term "civilian" in a derogatory way along with various ethnic slurs when talking about the enemy they face as a way of dehumanizing them much like krauts, nips, slopes, gooks, dune coons, and similar terms have been applied to enemies on other battlefields.
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Did YOU ever think the the taxpayers pay your salary & WE should decide what your dress code should be............just like in business, the owners get to make the rules. (In the case of PoPo's, we, the taxpayer, should also bear the cost of your duty clothing.)
You don't like that, find another career.
Don't misunderstand, Pira; I think your a good, & generally logical & sensible guy from most of your posts........but there are other views on this contrary to what your emotions may make you feel.
MM Couple of points. You must have missed the part where I said I buy my own. A lot of agencies are that way. And I pay taxes too. So that makes me at least equal in the decision making process of what I wear. Maybe a bit more because I have experience working in it. And finally, 90% of the people we contact are not tax payers. They're tax users. Just sayin. While I am happy for your great private sector success that has made your taxes alone exceed your government pay and benies, the only way that a government non-worker can ever pay taxes; almost every other government non-worker pays no taxes and is a much worse tax user than even the 'welfarians.' Ummm, what? That made no sense if it was directed at me You wrote that you were both a paid cop and a taxpayer. I wrote that I was happy for your great private enterprise success, that is a prerequisite to your statement being accurate and honest. Government non-workers are paid by the same government to which taxes are paid. Government entities circulating money amongst themselves can be many things, but none of those are actually and honestly paying taxes. Government non-workers can only pay taxes if their private sector income is great enough to incur taxes that exceed their government income. Government non-workers are, except for those very few with large private sector incomes, much worse tax users than are any welfare recipient.
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Got it. Thanks. I didn't realize cops were the only ones who benefited from those taxes. I feel even more special now
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The above special times aside, what do you look like on a regular basis when you are on patrol or walking a beat, if you even do that? ATVs or bikes is the norm for us, if we're not on foot. So our uniform fits the task. It's about as far from shined shoes and bus driver hats as you can get. But it's also about as far from a military uniform as you can get. Running shoes Blue cargo shorts And a super reflective "i'mrightherepleasedon'trunoverme" shirt I gotta go move cows tomorrow on a wheeler. Little different wardrobe. You patrol offroad?
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The police, or any other local or federal government agency can get suppressors now without the tax stamp. The purchase order just has to written on your department letterhead to the manufacturer. I even ordered one for my wildlife specialist duties. No biggie. I just don't think there needs to be any restrictions on them whatsoever... For those that have not shot one... A .223 suppresses to sound like a report of somewhere between a .22lr and a .22 Mag. It ain't the little "Pffttt" we hear I the James Bond movies. But, it does help with hearing issues down the road.
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Got it. Thanks. I didn't realize cops were the only ones who benefited from those taxes. I feel even more special now Not only cops benefit from, or use, taxes. All government non-workers benefit from and consume our taxes: politicians, cops, inmates, welfare recipients, and assorted other government employees.
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Great idea and likely one that would reduce disability collection upon retirement.
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Our local sheriff's department is a joke. It's not what they where, it's how they wear it. They look like sloppy, homeless people. Ripped jumpsuits, backwards baseball caps, etc etc.
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Buying it as an individual to be personally owned?
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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Rovering, you should be happy to pay for the gear the cops use to beat your dumb azz all the way back to the ghetto while real humans applaud their unwarrented use of force. I hope you enjoy having to pay to have your rights violated by "the man" you snivelling butt nugget. Remember to vote Republican.
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Our local sheriff's department is a joke. It's not what they where, it's how they wear it. They look like sloppy, homeless people. Ripped jumpsuits, backwards baseball caps, etc etc. We aren't allowed to wear baseball caps in uniform. If you're in Dress,or class A uniforms you will wear a campaign hat whenever you'reout of the vehicle, unless you're inside a building. If you are in class B, no hat in the summer, and a knit hat in the winter is optional
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
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Buying it as an individual to be personally owned? No, it has to stay with the department if you leave.
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Skeeters are bad here tonight. Bad in fact as I've ever seen them here. Worked with my son on drawing from the holster and plugging targets. Downed bear/deer were the scenarios tonight. Bugger can shoot that mod 60 well enough to almost put me to shame. Getting quick out of the holster to boot. In a couple years he'll really be something I reckon. Accuracy is there SA, need to work on the DA though and the speed from the holster. Though he's quick enough to beat some adults I've seen. In the event he decides to grow up and put on a uniform, I want him proficient with S&W's and wadcutters.
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The above special times aside, what do you look like on a regular basis when you are on patrol or walking a beat, if you even do that? ATVs or bikes is the norm for us, if we're not on foot. So our uniform fits the task. It's about as far from shined shoes and bus driver hats as you can get. But it's also about as far from a military uniform as you can get. Running shoes Blue cargo shorts And a super reflective "i'mrightherepleasedon'trunoverme" shirt I gotta go move cows tomorrow on a wheeler. Little different wardrobe. You patrol offroad? Yeah, I'm off the road probably 90% of the time. Nice change of pace.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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The above special times aside, what do you look like on a regular basis when you are on patrol or walking a beat, if you even do that? ATVs or bikes is the norm for us, if we're not on foot. So our uniform fits the task. It's about as far from shined shoes and bus driver hats as you can get. But it's also about as far from a military uniform as you can get. Running shoes Blue cargo shorts And a super reflective "i'mrightherepleasedon'trunoverme" shirt I gotta go move cows tomorrow on a wheeler. Little different wardrobe. You patrol offroad? Yeah, I'm off the road probably 90% of the time. Nice change of pace. Down there patrolling those Beach bunnies, or is it College Coeds?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Skeeters are bad here tonight. Bad in fact as I've ever seen them here. Worked with my son on drawing from the holster and plugging targets. Downed bear/deer were the scenarios tonight. Bugger can shoot that mod 60 well enough to almost put me to shame. Getting quick out of the holster to boot. In a couple years he'll really be something I reckon. Accuracy is there SA, need to work on the DA though and the speed from the holster. Though he's quick enough to beat some adults I've seen. In the event he decides to grow up and put on a uniform, I want him proficient with S&W's and wadcutters. Better get him used to a clamshell or a swivel holster ad well, I hear that Cops are going to go back to those when they return to revolvers...
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
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Skeeters are bad here tonight. Bad in fact as I've ever seen them here. Worked with my son on drawing from the holster and plugging targets. Downed bear/deer were the scenarios tonight. Bugger can shoot that mod 60 well enough to almost put me to shame. Getting quick out of the holster to boot. In a couple years he'll really be something I reckon. Accuracy is there SA, need to work on the DA though and the speed from the holster. Though he's quick enough to beat some adults I've seen. In the event he decides to grow up and put on a uniform, I want him proficient with S&W's and wadcutters. Better get him used to a clamshell or a swivel holster ad well, I hear that Cops are going to go back to those when they return to revolvers... Darn. And I was training my daughter for a life in LE with a Midgas AR and 30 round mag dumps.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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