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I recently bought my first pre 64 model 70(1956 manufacture). It is 300H&H that has had work done to it such as a custom stock, jeweled bolt, but my question is about the barrel. My barrel has no sights front or back. Was it an option to order these guns without sights in 1956? If so is there anyway to determine if it is factory or re barrel?

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I doubt it but if it came from the custom shop, no telling. Show us a picture of the barrel, caliber roll marking, etc.


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Winchester did offer barrels without sight but very few were ever ordered. Even barrels without sights from Winchester still had the rear sight "bump" as people call it. It did not have the dovetail cut into the bump, which actual name is a boss. I have seen and had a few barrels that had the front sight removed and the rear sight boss filled in and turned down so skillfully that it took a glass to detect the fill job. Picture will help.

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There were a number of M-70's without sights now that I think about it. Namely the so called "Gopher Specials" They did not have the dogknot and I think were featherweight contours.


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It does not have the bump so I would say someone did a re barrel at the same time the other work was done. If someone turned the barrel down they did one heck of a job. For what I payed I am still pretty happy with the gun and a caliber I did not have prior. Need to scope it up and shoot it now! Thanks for the info! Love this forum.

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BOBBUCK, does the barrel have any Winchester markings?

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Yes it does have the Winchester markings on the barrel. I do not have the gun with me, but I am pretty sure it has a proof mark as well. Figured it was probably a take off barrel that some one had put on this gun maybe.

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There were a number of M-70's without sights now that I think about it. Namely the so called "Gopher Specials" They did not have the dogknot and I think were featherweight contours.


They were Featherweight contours in .243, .270 and .30/06, made for Gopher Shooter Supply in Fairbault, MN, ...bought and sold several years ago; now they command pretty big $....


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Given scope quality/reliability/durability of that time almost no one in right mind would order rifle with option of having no iron sights. In common terms that is like paying for cake and not picking it up.


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