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In both cases I had zero concern my target was about to move. Your lack of concern doesn't change the possibility of them moving It merely shows you don't care I think it shows he's a keen observer of wildlife. And knows that a bedded deer won't move. Most bedded deer eventually get up, which disproves your theory
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No.
I just saw no point in answering to something that had nothing to do with what I said
Can you tell me at what range I can stop worrying about whether or not the deer moves at the same moment the primer is ignited? Thanks in advance. Travis You seem to be hallucinating I'd suggest you aovid firearms all together until you sober up
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I love people trying to tell other people how to do things while playing the ethics or "its not hunting" card. Even funnier is these types usually are found in the eastern half of the US where, without context of the western 2/3 of the US, hunting is very close range.
Hell, where does it stop? We have scopes now, scents, calls, blinds, good accurate bullets, and the list goes on...
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In both cases I had zero concern my target was about to move. Your lack of concern doesn't change the possibility of them moving It merely shows you don't care Well then Snyper, what time of flight do the people who care find acceptable?
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You seem to be hallucinating
I'd suggest you aovid firearms all together until you sober up Boy. You sure seem to know a lot about this topic. Impressive! Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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In both cases I had zero concern my target was about to move. Your lack of concern doesn't change the possibility of them moving It merely shows you don't care I think it shows he's a keen observer of wildlife. And knows that a bedded deer won't move. Most bedded deer eventually get up, which disproves your theory It's not a theory, provided you pull the trigger while they're still lying down.
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Proving once again the biggest enemy of hunting is the high and mighty fuggstick crowd.
Travis I'll need to know their position.
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Proving once again the biggest enemy of hunting is the high and mighty fuggstick crowd.
Travis I'll need to know their position. They're typically standing upright and asking you to bend over. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I'm all for debate and discussion on all topics amongst people with similar interests. But does anybody really give two flying schists what the B&C club thinks of anything? I also don't give a schit what Eric the Bullet Seller thinks and I cannot imagine why anybody on this earth would.
The stench of legislation is filling the air mighty quick IMO. Proving once again the biggest enemy of hunting is the high and mighty fuggstick crowd.
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Yep. The only thing that really matters is what I think. I'll call B&C and 'splain it
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In both cases I had zero concern my target was about to move. Your lack of concern doesn't change the possibility of them moving It merely shows you don't care Well then Snyper, what time of flight do the people who care find acceptable? Seems like the bow hunting industry is in big $i%& as flight time is pretty long in general 
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I think 'flave has relatives at B&C. I just got off of the phone with someone there who told me to GFM.
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But does anybody really give two flying schists what the B&C club thinks of anything?
The stench of legislation is filling the air mighty quick IMO. Proving once again the biggest enemy of hunting is the high and mighty fuggstick crowd.
Travis
Because what they think can screw the rest of us....that's why I care.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Hitting a stationary piece of paper 9 out of 10 times still won't assure an animal at 500+ yds won't decide to move just as you trip the trigger
Just because "there's an ap for that" doesn't mean most people should try it Can I see your long range setup? I bet it's UBER. Travis snipper just put you on ignore  No. I just saw no point in answering to something that had nothing to do with what I said Curious as to why you put people on ignore only to toggle and respond kind of pointless don't you think?
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Even funnier is these types usually are found in the eastern half of the US where, without context of the western 2/3 of the US, hunting is very close range. Anyone who thinks that has never seen the East Coast Google "bean field rifles" if you need an education
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Well then Snyper, what time of flight do the people who care find acceptable? You tell me, unless you don't care
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You seem to be hallucinating
I'd suggest you aovid firearms all together until you sober up Boy. You sure seem to know a lot about this topic. Impressive! Travis Once again you prove that all you have to offer is mindless rambling.
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Well then Snyper, what time of flight do the people who care find acceptable? You tell me, unless you don't care I ought to know better, but... Time of flight isn't the limiting variable for me. Confidence regarding windage holds me back before a sub second time of flight ever will.
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Well then Snyper, what time of flight do the people who care find acceptable? You tell me, unless you don't care hmmm Seems we have some reluctance to answer the question. I was reading this and thinking to myself - "What is the max flight time that I think is acceptable (for me, nobody else)?" The immediate answers that popped into my head were that anything less than 0.25 seconds is inconsequential and I'm not comfortable with anything over 1 second. I decided to check time of flight for my favorite hunting loads and see what the yardage equates to. I found that 1/4 second is about 225yards and 1 second is about 725 yards. Oddly enough, 250 and under is what I consider a gimme - any stationary target, any rest (except offhand) and I'll make that shot. 700 yards is my personal max range based on my range performance (and I'm actually a lot more comfortable with 500 and under). I don't even carry dope for distances beyond 700 because I don't want to tempt myself to shoot beyond my abilities. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the time of flight that I find to be reasonable almost perfectly coincides with my shooting capabilities..... David
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Personally, I find it more of a challenge putting on the sneak but I'm one of those who absolutely will not take a questionable (to me) shot no matter the circumstances or size of the animal. Frankly, I don't care how far you shoot so long as you don't Safariman the poor animal...  
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I think it shows he's a keen observer of wildlife. And knows that a bedded deer won't move.
Most bedded deer eventually get up, which disproves your theory [/quote]
It's not a theory, provided you pull the trigger while they're still lying down.
They can still move, but you're right about one thing. It's not a theory that they "don't move." It's a falsehood, and you just hope they won't move
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