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His name was David Hancock and we became friends in the early 'sixties when he was posted to Young County. In fact, this is where he served his entire career.
Back then, Tx Game Wardens were not armed, at least openly, and concerned themselves strictly with enforcing fish and game laws.
I asked him once if it was true that they were the only officers who could search a home without a warrant.
His answer: "YEAH, BUT IF WE DO, WE DAMN WELL BETTER FIND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR".
Never holler whoa or look back in a tight place
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had one stop by my buddy Geoff house during this past duck season, it was Geoff's birthday, he told us we didn't have to worry about shooting over the limit for that one day. we still only killed our limits. good to have one as friend.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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I am friends with a Tennessee game warden.
He encourages us to shoot wild boars onsite, regardless of where or when.
Since I don't live in Tennessee, its a moot point I guess.
have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings
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That's 'cause they can't, and never could, although they sure tricked a lot of people into thinking so. The Constitution says otherwise.
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Not even in "Hot pursuit"?
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Campfire Kahuna
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Not any different than any other LEO.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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That's 'cause they can't, and never could, although they sure tricked a lot of people into thinking so. The Constitution says otherwise. I had a Game Warden search the toolboxes on my truck at a game check station once. I thought he was looking for tape to re attach the tag to my deer. He said no, he was just checking to see if I had other game I hadn't claimed. I asked 2 friends of mine what the legal requirements are of Game Wardens. One was a judge, the other a highway patrolman. They both told me that Game Wardens had to abide by the same laws as any other law enforcement agency. I think actions like this helps smear the reputation of Game Wardens, they choose to do this on their own...
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Campfire Kahuna
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Not any different than any other LEO. Word. This ought to be a lively, uninformed discussion though... ![wink wink](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif)
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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They really take advantage of that myth. You'll notice that they'll normally word their delivery with something like "Alright, can I look at your fish, now?" or something like that. It's technically a request for consent, and perfectly legal. The problem is that most people don't realize they have the right to refuse.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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Campfire Kahuna
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used to know a number of Florida F&G guys back in the day. Everyone a standup man, smart, dedicated, and true outdoorsmen. Today, at least in Florida, they are all kids, half of 'em are women, and they don't seem to know a damn thing about the outdoors. It has become just another good government job.
Sam......
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They really take advantage of that myth. You'll notice that they'll normally word their delivery with something like "Alright, can I look at your fish, now?" or something like that. It's technically a request for consent, and perfectly legal. The problem is that most people don't realize they have the right to refuse. Yeah, they tend to use verbal consent to search, at least more than other peace officers. I very rarely used verbal and got them to sign a written consent to search. Very surprisingly most guilty people would sign that. (Did they think I was going to miss finding the evidence?) ![wink wink](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif)
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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Campfire Kahuna
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Good link. Everybody needs to read it.
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Campfire Kahuna
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They really take advantage of that myth. You'll notice that they'll normally word their delivery with something like "Alright, can I look at your fish, now?" or something like that. It's technically a request for consent, and perfectly legal. The problem is that most people don't realize they have the right to refuse. Yeah, they tend to use verbal consent to search, at least more than other peace officers. I very rarely used verbal and got them to sign a written consent to search. Very surprisingly most guilty people would sign that. (Did they think I was going to miss finding the evidence?) Nope...they think is they say "Sure, go ahead and search.", you'll say "Ahh...just kiddin'.". ![laugh laugh](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
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But then there is their "trespass" on private land.
"Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." Fess Parker as Davy Crockett
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Good link. Everybody needs to read it. Yeah, I really liked THIS part: " a person's home is the most sacred and protected place under Fourth Amendment law." ![grin grin](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif)
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Campfire Kahuna
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But then there is their "trespass" on private land. Right? "Curtilage" is an interesting issue from a legal standpoint.
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But then there is their "trespass" on private land. I've known David to shut down a pumping unit when a stuffing box was leaking oil out onto the ground. In one instance, when he returned and found the pumping unit restarted and still leaking, he cut the belts on it!
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I've told the brown shirts 'NO' more than a few times. I had NOTHING but miserable experiences with the SOB's in Alaska.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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