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he was an international jew banker




but shhhhhh



keep it on the downlow

Even worse. He was likely a Mason.

You mean, Pope John XXIII was a Satan-worshiper?

It may have been caused by the fluoride in the water.

nicely played

Interesting.

The Roman Secular Empire became the Roman Christian Empire (Church). The same administration that ran the Roman secular Empire merely transferred it's administrative duties to the Roman Christian Empire (Church).

I have finally become convinced that Christianity is NOT a religion or Church but each individual's attempt to build a relationship with their God and obtain Enlightenment.

Going to Church or belonging to an organization does not make one a Christian.

Very nice...

Yup, a decent voice and post it on YouTube ... that's proof that 1.2 BILLION Catholics are totally stupid.

kd

Well this post is proof you are totally stupid, unless your being sarcastic, which is what this post sounds like, but it is hard to tell.

Spirituality has nothing to do with religion.

And who was Pope anybody doesn't make the Catholic Church a bad thing. It is interesting history, but not much more than that.

The Pope IS the Catholic Church. To be a good Catholic in good standing with the Church you follow the Pope blindly. The Pope is God (Jesus) on earth. In all matters of religion, the Pope is infallible.

Incorrect. The Church has defined in the past that any pope who was a heretic was, by that fact alone, not the Pope, and no Catholic owed him any allegiance.

Oh man, do you ever have that wrong.

He was the first pope I ever heard of. I was in 4th grade, and almost all the kids in my class were Catholic. I learned they had a pope whose name was Pope John the 23rd. One of my classmates was named John Pope. As a 4th grader, I had the hardest time figuring out how Pope John and John Pope were connected!

As it happens, I saw Pope John XXIII just last week!

Steve.

Replying to derby dude - TRH committed postus interruptus

DD gets lots of stuff wrong.


Right so far.


Wrong on both counts.


He got this right, and most people I know who call themselves Christians would agree.

Steve.

Who's the Church if not the ruling elite of pope and college of Cardinals? The ruling hierarchy has always established the orthodox position of the Church and what constituted heresy.

There's a reason why I left the Church and Christianity a long time ago.

Nope.

You are close. I am not sure I would use the word Enlightenment. The word relationship is the key.




AMEN!!!!

I would add not belonging to a church does not mean one is not a Christian.

I do make minor mistakes occasionally but for the most part I'm right.

You have one of two choices: join organized religion i.e. a Church and follow the ruling hierarchy or be a mastic and develop a personal relationship with your Deity and become enlightened.

In early Christianity there were two camps, the organized Church camp under a ruling hierarchy and the Gnostic (mystic) camp without a ruling hierarchy. The first camp stressed salvation through the hierarchy and the second camp stressed salvation through a personal relationship with God, mysticism.

The first camp declared the second camp heretics and persecuted the second camp severely.

We still have the two camps today although the second camp is not usually persecuted today.

So what are you a follower or a mystic?