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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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I have a few: BARNESS/BODDINGTON/HAVILAND/MANN/SPOMER/TOWSLEY Rifle Bullets for the Hunter BARSNESS Obsessions of a Rifle Loony The Life of the Hunt Optics for the Hunter HILL Hunting the Hard Way VAN DER WALT African Dangerous Game Cartridges FOSTER Bolt Action Rifle Accurizing and Maintenance Long Range Hunting Cartridges Long Range Hunting Rifles JORDAN No Second Place Winner WIELAND A View for a Tall Hill Dangerous Game Rifles Dangerous Game Rifles II BODDINGTON Safari Rifles Safari RIfles II American Hunting RIfles American Hunting RIfles II Buffalo! Make It Accurate From Mt Kenya to the Cape African Experience Where Lions Roar Shots at Big Game The Perfect Shot - North America AAGAARD Aagaard's African Adventures HUNTER Hunter Hunter's Tracks White Hunter Tales of the African Frontier HERNE White Hunters AFRICAN HUNTER Nyati TAYLOR African Rifles & Cartridges Big Game and Big Game Rifles WOODS Rifles for Africa FLACK Heart of an African Hunter RUARK The Old Man and The Boy The Old Man's Boy Grows Older Horn of the Hunter Lost Classics Africa Use Enough Gun The Honey Badger Uhuru Grenadine's Etching Grenadine's Spawn Something of Value GATES Trophy Hunter in Africa ROBERT JONES African Twilight J.Y. JONES Ask the Black Bear Guides Ask the Whitetail Guides Ask the Elk Guides Ask the Mule Deer Guides One Man, One Rifle, One Land MATUNAS Guns, Ammo, and Equipment Modern African Adventures BABCOCK My Health is Better in November WEBB Home from the Hill Campfire Lies of a Canadian Hunting Guide NEUMANN Elephant Hunting in East Equitorial Africa ALASKA PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS ASSOCIATION Hunting in the Land of the Midnight Sun CARR Tales of a Bear Hunter ALLEN The Wheel of Life DODD HUGHES Custom Rifles WILSON Winchester An American Legend DENIS On Safari ESTES The Safari Companion The Behavior Guide to African Mammals CONRAD Heart of Darkness Safari Guide O'CONNER Lost Classics CASEK Solo Safari HILL A Hunter's Fireside Book BURGER Horned Death FINNAUGHTY The Recollections of an Elephant Hunter 1864-1875 HUFFMAN Ten Point UNDERWOOD The Greatest Hunting Stories Ever Told HENDERSON The Fire Tower NOSLER Going Ballistic McINTYRE Hunting Optics Handbook Dreaming the Lion ATCHESON Hunting Adventures Worldwide CARMICHEL Just Jim The Book of the Rifle HEMMINGWAY Green Hill's of Africa True at First Light NELSON Hunting Big Whitetails SISK RIFLES Selecting and Ordering a Custom Rifle MELLON African Hunter FLACK and BODDINGTON African Hunter II HALLAMORE In the Saly GREAT HUNTERS & TROPHY ROOMS Volumes 1-6 ROBERTSON The Perfect Shot Africa's Most Dangerous SIMPSON Rifles and Cartridges for Large Game VON BRUNT Born a Hunter NYSCHENS Months of the Sun CHANDLER Legends of the African Frontier KEITH Hell, I Was There! FADALA Legendary Sporting Rifles The Rifleman's Bible HOLDEN The Golden Years of Hunting in New Zeland HOFFMAN A Country Boy in Africa VAN ZWOLL Modern Sporting Rifle Catridges WOOTERS Hunting Trophy Deer ROOSEVELT African Game Trails The Happy Hunting Grounds PROTHERO Safari: A Dangerous Affair KANIUT Some Bears Kill GEORGE LEONARD HERTER The Truth About Hunting in Today's Africa FONTOVA The Hellpig Hunt FIDUCCA Whitetail Strategies CAPSTICK Death in the Long Grass Death in the Silent Places Death on the Dark Continent Death on a Barstool The Last Ivory Hunter Sands of Silence The African Adventurers Last Horizons About 30 Reloading Manuals....... Gun Digests 1993- Present....... Bunch of Handgun Books upstairs.......
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How about The Still Hunter by Theodore S. Van Dyke.
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Wow, thanks! Wish there was a way I could merge these titles with the other list. I'll work it later to see if I can't get a comprehensive bibliography posted.
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Updated List (10/22/14)
Anyway, if we were going to put together a library of rifle/hunting/shooting books, classic and modern, what would be included? Here's what we have so far:
Alaska Professional Hunters Association: �Hunting in the Land of the Midnight Sun�
Safari Press: �Great Hunters and Their Trophy Rooms�
Finn and Berit Aagaard: "Aagaard's African Adventures"
Bunny Allen: �The Wheel of Life�
Tony de Almeida: "Jaguar Hunting on the Mato Grosso and Bolivia"
Russell Annabel: Corpus
Charles Askins: "Unrepentant Sinner"
Jack Atcheson: �Hunting Adventures Worldwide�
Havilah Babcock: �My Health is Better in November�
John Barsness: "The Life of the Hunt" "Obsessions of a Rifle Loony" "Born to Hunt" �Optics for the Hunter� �Rifle Bullets for the Hunter� (with Barnes, Haviland, Boddington, et al)
William Beech: "Shadow of Denali"
WDM Bell: "Wanderings of an Elephant Hunter" "Bell of Africa" "Karamojo Safari"
Craig Boddington: "African Hunter II" �Safari Rifles� "Safari Rifles II" "Elephant!: The Renaissance of Hunting the African Elephant" "Buffalo!" The "Ten Years" Series "The Perfect Shot - North America" "American Hunting Rifles" �American Hunting Rifles II� "African Experience" "Shots at Big Game" "Deer Hunting Coast to Coast" (w/Bob Robb) "Campfires and Game Trails" "The Hunters Handbook" �Make It Accurate� �From Mt Kenya to the Cape� �Where Lions Roar�
Capt. John Brandt: "Asian Hunter" "Hunters of Man"
John Burger: "Horned Death"
Terrance Cacek: �Solo Safari�
Peter Hathaway Capstick: �Death in the Long Grass� �Death in Silent Places� �Death on the Dark Continent� �Death on a Barstool� �The Last Ivory Hunter� �Sands of Silence� �The African Adventures� �Last Horizons�
Jim Carmichael: "Book of the Rifle" "The Modern Rifle" �Just Jim�
Dalton Carr: �Tales of a Bear Hunter�
Jim Casada: �The Lost Classics of Jack O�Connor�
Joe Cavanaugh "The Jungle Hunter"
David Chandler: �Legends of the African Frontier�
Roy Andrews Chapman: "Across Mongolian Plains"
Steve Christenson: "From the Congo Basin to the Highlands of Ethiopia"
Richard Conrad: �Safari Guide�
J Corbett: "Entire omnibus collection"
Armand Denis: �On Safari�
Richard Estes: �The Safari Companion� �The Behavior Guide to African Mammals�
Sam Fadala: �Legendary Sporting Rifles� �The Rifleman�s Bible�
Peter Fiducca: �Whitetail Strategies�
William Finaughty: �Recollections of an Elephant Hunter, 1864-1875�
Peter Flack: �Heart of an African Hunter�
Humberto Fontova: �The Hellpig Hunt�
Nathan Foster: �Bolt Action Rifle Accurizing and Maintenance� �Long Range Hunting Cartridges� �Long Range Hunting Rifles�
Elgin Gates: "Trophy Hunter in Africa" "Trophy Hunter in Asia"
Bob Hagel: "Hunting North American Big Game" "Guns, Loads & Hunting Tips"
Lou Hallamore: �In the Salt� �Chui: A Guide to Hunting the African Leopard�
Ernest Hemingway: "Green Hills of Africa" �True at First Light�
Bob Henderson: �The Fire Tower�
Brian Herne: "White Hunters"
George Leonard Herter: �The Truth About Hunting in Today�s Africa�
Gene Hill: �A Hunter�s Fireside Book�
George Hoffman: �A Country Boy in Africa�
Philip Holden: �The Golden Years of Hunting in New Zealand�
Alan Huffman: �Ten Point: Deer Camp in the Mississippi Delta�
Steven Dodd Hughes: �Custom Rifles�
JA Hunter: "Hunter" "White Hunter" "Hunter's Tracks" "Tales of the African Frontier"
Rashid Jamsheed: "Memories of a Sheep Hunter"
John Jobson: "The Best of John Jobson"
J.Y. Jones: �Ask the Black Bear Guides� �Ask the Whitetail Guides� �Ask the Elk Guides� �Ask the Mule Deer Guides� �One Man, One Rifle, One Land�
Robert Jones: �African Twilight�
Larry Kanuit: �Some Bears Kill�
Elmer Keith: "Hell, I was There!" "Rifles for Big Game" "Safari" "Rifles for Large Game" "Big Game Rifles and Cartridges"
John Kingsley-Heath: "Hunting the Dangerous Game of Africa"
Larry Koller: "Shots at Whitetails"
Denis D. Lyell: "African Adventures: Letters from Famous Big-Game Hunters"
Thomas McIntyre: �Field & Stream Hunting Optics Handbook� �Dreaming the Lion�
Edward Matunas: �Guns, Ammo, and Equipment� �Modern African Adventures�
Edison Marshall: "Heart of the Hunter" "Shikar and Safari"
George Mattis: "Whitetail - Fundamentals and Fine Points for the Hunter"
James Mellon: "African Hunter"
Reinald von Meurers: "Buffalo, Elephant and Bongo"
Sancha de Montebel: "Big Game Hunting"
Bruce Nelson: �Hunting Big Whitetails�
Arthur Newmann: "Elephant Hunting in East Equatorial Africa"
John Nosler: �John Nosler Going Ballistic: The Life and Adventures of John Nosler�
Ian Nyschens: �Months of the Sun�
Jack O'Connor: "The Hunting Rifle" "Sheep and Sheep Hunting" "The Best of Jack O'Connor" "The Last Book" "The Art of Hunting Big Game in North America" "The Complete Book of Rifles and Shotguns" "The Rifle Book" "The Big Game Rifle" "Big Game Animals of North America" "Game in the Desert Revisited" "Horse and Buggy West"
Etienne Oggeri: "I Killed for a Living"
Warren Page: "One Man's Wilderness" "The Accurate Rifle"
Alfred Pease: "Book of the Lion"
Walt Prothero: �Safari: A Dangerous Affair�
Kevin Robertson: �The Perfect Shot� �Africa�s Most Dangerous�
Theodore Roosevelt: "African Game Trails" �The Happy Hunting Grounds�
Robert Ruark: "Use Enough Gun" "Horn of the Hunter" "The Old Man and the Boy" �The Old Man�s Boy Grows Older� �Lost Classics� �Africa� �The Honey Badger� �Uhuru� �Grenadine�s Etching� �Grenadine�s Spawn� �Something of Value�
Tony Sanchez-Arino "The Last of the Few" "Elephants, Ivory and Hunters"
Hosea Sarber: "Forty Years in Alaska"
Francis E. Sell: "The Deer Hunter's Guide"
Frederick Courtney Selous: "A hunters Wandering in Africa"
Philip Sharpe: "The Rifle in America"
Charles Sheldon: "Wilderness of Denali"
Layne Simpson: �Rifles and Cartridges for Large Game�
Charles Sisk: �Selecting and Ordering a Custom Rifle�
Col. Harry Snyder: "Book of Big Game Hunting"
James Sutherland: "The Adventures of an Elephant Hunter"
John 'Pondoro' Taylor: "Big Game and Big Game Rifles" "African Rifles and Cartridges" "Rifles for African Big Game"
SR Truesdell: "The Rifle: Its Development for Big-Game Hunting"
Lamar Underwood: �The Greatest Hunting Stories Ever Told�
Dwight Van Brunt: �Born a Hunter�
Theodore Van Dyke: �The Still Hunter�
Pierre van der Walt: �African Dangerous Game Cartridges�
Wayne Van Zwoll: �Modern Sporting Rifle Cartridges�
Fred Webb: �Home from the Hill� �Campfire Lies of a Canadian Hunting Guide�
Terry Weiland: "Dangerous Game Rifles" �Dangerous Game Rifles II� �A View from a Tall Hill�
Townsend Whelen: "The Hunting Rifle" "The Ultimate in Rifle Precision" "On Your Own in the Wilderness" "Best of Townsend Whelen"
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Anthony Williams: �African Hunter Guide to Nyati�
Jay Williams: "Alaska Adventures"
Ken Wilson: "Sport Hunting on Six Continents"
R.L. Wilson: �Winchester: An American Legend�
Gregor Woods: �Rifles for Africa�
John Wooters: �Hunting Trophy Deer�
G.O. Young: "Alaska-Yukon Trophies Won and Lost"
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Rev, if you get hung up, spending all your time reading that stuff, what's the Bishop gonna say...??
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You and I both know what he'd say: "I don't dare send you to Africa!"
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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That would be like throwing Brer Rabbit in the briar patch... You don't think he'd buy into that...? Don't reckon he got to be Bishop, being dumb and gullible... DF
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That would be like throwing Brer Rabbit in the briar patch... You don't think he'd buy into that...? Don't reckon he got to be Bishop, being dumb and gullible... DF Nah, I don't think he'd buy it at all.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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I'm about a third of the way through Brian Herne's "White Hunters." I highly recommend it if you haven't read it.
Mike
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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for a bump, found another good one: 'Hunting in the Mountains and Jungles of Nepal' by Peter Byrne
he wasone of if not the only PH in Nepal for a couple decades, out of all the tiger hunts he did only three hunters chose to go after the tigers on foot in the jungle, one of which is James Mellon whose 'African Hunter' book is listed above. he tells the story of all three. also included is a story about Robert Ruark....very good book unfortunately another one of those only available as a limited edition by Safari Press....if anyone has his book on Corbet('Gentlemen Hunter') or 'Gone are the Days' i would really love to borrow them...since fellow book nuts are congregating here also looking to read John Brandt's 'Horned Giants' and Channing Beebe's 'Cannibals and Big Game'
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Updated List (12/01/14)
Anyway, if we were going to put together a library of rifle/hunting/shooting books, classic and modern, what would be included? Here's what we have so far:
Alaska Professional Hunters Association: �Hunting in the Land of the Midnight Sun�
Safari Press: �Great Hunters and Their Trophy Rooms�
Finn and Berit Aagaard: "Aagaard's African Adventures"
Bunny Allen: �The Wheel of Life�
Tony de Almeida: "Jaguar Hunting on the Mato Grosso and Bolivia"
Kenneth Anderson: Corpus
Russell Annabel: Corpus
Charles Askins: "Unrepentant Sinner"
Jack Atcheson: �Hunting Adventures Worldwide�
Havilah Babcock: �My Health is Better in November�
John Barsness: "The Life of the Hunt" "Obsessions of a Rifle Loony" "Born to Hunt" �Optics for the Hunter� �Rifle Bullets for the Hunter� (with Barnes, Haviland, Boddington, et al)
William Beech: "Shadow of Denali"
WDM Bell: "Wanderings of an Elephant Hunter" "Bell of Africa" "Karamojo Safari"
Craig Boddington: "African Hunter II" �Safari Rifles� "Safari Rifles II" "Elephant!: The Renaissance of Hunting the African Elephant" "Buffalo!" The "Ten Years" Series "The Perfect Shot - North America" "American Hunting Rifles" �American Hunting Rifles II� "African Experience" "Shots at Big Game" "Deer Hunting Coast to Coast" (w/Bob Robb) "Campfires and Game Trails" "The Hunters Handbook" �Make It Accurate� �From Mt Kenya to the Cape� �Where Lions Roar�
Capt. John Brandt: "Asian Hunter" "Hunters of Man"
John Burger: "Horned Death"
Peter Byrne: "Gentleman Hunter" "Hunting in the Mountains and Jungles of Nepal"
Terrance Cacek: �Solo Safari�
Peter Hathaway Capstick: �Death in the Long Grass� �Death in Silent Places� �Death on the Dark Continent� �Death on a Barstool� �The Last Ivory Hunter� �Sands of Silence� �The African Adventures� �Last Horizons�
Jim Carmichael: "Book of the Rifle" "The Modern Rifle" �Just Jim�
Dalton Carr: �Tales of a Bear Hunter�
Jim Casada: �The Lost Classics of Jack O�Connor�
Joe Cavanaugh "The Jungle Hunter"
David Chandler: �Legends of the African Frontier�
Roy Andrews Chapman: "Across Mongolian Plains"
Steve Christenson: "From the Congo Basin to the Highlands of Ethiopia"
Richard Conrad: �Safari Guide�
J Corbett: "Entire omnibus collection"
Armand Denis: �On Safari�
Richard Estes: �The Safari Companion� �The Behavior Guide to African Mammals�
Sam Fadala: �Legendary Sporting Rifles� �The Rifleman�s Bible�
Peter Fiducca: �Whitetail Strategies�
William Finaughty: �Recollections of an Elephant Hunter, 1864-1875�
Peter Flack: �Heart of an African Hunter�
Humberto Fontova: �The Hellpig Hunt�
Nathan Foster: �Bolt Action Rifle Accurizing and Maintenance� �Long Range Hunting Cartridges� �Long Range Hunting Rifles�
Elgin Gates: "Trophy Hunter in Africa" "Trophy Hunter in Asia"
Bob Hagel: "Hunting North American Big Game" "Guns, Loads & Hunting Tips"
Lou Hallamore: �In the Salt� �Chui: A Guide to Hunting the African Leopard�
Ernest Hemingway: "Green Hills of Africa" �True at First Light�
Bob Henderson: �The Fire Tower�
Brian Herne: "White Hunters"
George Leonard Herter: �The Truth About Hunting in Today�s Africa�
Gene Hill: �A Hunter�s Fireside Book�
George Hoffman: �A Country Boy in Africa�
Philip Holden: �The Golden Years of Hunting in New Zealand�
Alan Huffman: �Ten Point: Deer Camp in the Mississippi Delta�
Steven Dodd Hughes: �Custom Rifles�
JA Hunter: "Hunter" "White Hunter" "Hunter's Tracks" "Tales of the African Frontier"
Rashid Jamsheed: "Memories of a Sheep Hunter"
John Jobson: "The Best of John Jobson"
J.Y. Jones: �Ask the Black Bear Guides� �Ask the Whitetail Guides� �Ask the Elk Guides� �Ask the Mule Deer Guides� �One Man, One Rifle, One Land�
Robert Jones: �African Twilight�
Larry Kanuit: �Some Bears Kill�
Elmer Keith: "Hell, I was There!" "Rifles for Big Game" "Safari" "Rifles for Large Game" "Big Game Rifles and Cartridges"
John Kingsley-Heath: "Hunting the Dangerous Game of Africa"
Larry Koller: "Shots at Whitetails"
Denis D. Lyell: "African Adventures: Letters from Famous Big-Game Hunters"
Thomas McIntyre: �Field & Stream Hunting Optics Handbook� �Dreaming the Lion�
Edward Matunas: �Guns, Ammo, and Equipment� �Modern African Adventures�
Edison Marshall: "Heart of the Hunter" "Shikar and Safari"
George Mattis: "Whitetail - Fundamentals and Fine Points for the Hunter"
James Mellon: "African Hunter"
Reinald von Meurers: "Buffalo, Elephant and Bongo"
Sancha de Montebel: "Big Game Hunting"
Bruce Nelson: �Hunting Big Whitetails�
Arthur Newmann: "Elephant Hunting in East Equatorial Africa"
John Nosler: �John Nosler Going Ballistic: The Life and Adventures of John Nosler�
Ian Nyschens: �Months of the Sun�
Jack O'Connor: "The Hunting Rifle" "Sheep and Sheep Hunting" "The Best of Jack O'Connor" "The Last Book" "The Art of Hunting Big Game in North America" "The Complete Book of Rifles and Shotguns" "The Rifle Book" "The Big Game Rifle" "Big Game Animals of North America" "Game in the Desert Revisited" "Horse and Buggy West"
Etienne Oggeri: "I Killed for a Living"
Warren Page: "One Man's Wilderness" "The Accurate Rifle"
Alfred Pease: "Book of the Lion"
Walt Prothero: �Safari: A Dangerous Affair�
Kevin Robertson: �The Perfect Shot� �Africa�s Most Dangerous�
Theodore Roosevelt: "African Game Trails" �The Happy Hunting Grounds�
Robert Ruark: "Use Enough Gun" "Horn of the Hunter" "The Old Man and the Boy" �The Old Man�s Boy Grows Older� �Lost Classics� �Africa� �The Honey Badger� �Uhuru� �Grenadine�s Etching� �Grenadine�s Spawn� �Something of Value�
Tony Sanchez-Arino "The Last of the Few" "Elephants, Ivory and Hunters"
Hosea Sarber: "Forty Years in Alaska"
Francis E. Sell: "The Deer Hunter's Guide"
Frederick Courtney Selous: "A hunters Wandering in Africa"
Philip Sharpe: "The Rifle in America"
Charles Sheldon: "Wilderness of Denali"
Layne Simpson: �Rifles and Cartridges for Large Game�
Charles Sisk: �Selecting and Ordering a Custom Rifle�
Col. Harry Snyder: "Book of Big Game Hunting"
James Sutherland: "The Adventures of an Elephant Hunter"
John 'Pondoro' Taylor: "Big Game and Big Game Rifles" "African Rifles and Cartridges" "Rifles for African Big Game"
SR Truesdell: "The Rifle: Its Development for Big-Game Hunting"
Lamar Underwood: �The Greatest Hunting Stories Ever Told�
Dwight Van Brunt: �Born a Hunter�
Theodore Van Dyke: �The Still Hunter�
Pierre van der Walt: �African Dangerous Game Cartridges�
Wayne Van Zwoll: �Modern Sporting Rifle Cartridges�
Fred Webb: �Home from the Hill� �Campfire Lies of a Canadian Hunting Guide�
Terry Weiland: "Dangerous Game Rifles" �Dangerous Game Rifles II� �A View from a Tall Hill�
Townsend Whelen: "The Hunting Rifle" "The Ultimate in Rifle Precision" "On Your Own in the Wilderness" "Best of Townsend Whelen"
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Anthony Williams: �African Hunter Guide to Nyati�
Jay Williams: "Alaska Adventures"
Ken Wilson: "Sport Hunting on Six Continents"
R.L. Wilson: �Winchester: An American Legend�
Gregor Woods: �Rifles for Africa�
John Wooters: �Hunting Trophy Deer�
G.O. Young: "Alaska-Yukon Trophies Won and Lost"
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"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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I must have missed it but what about Kenneth Anderson?-Muddy
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I must have missed it but what about Kenneth Anderson?-Muddy Good question. I thought I had him on the list. I've added him. There is an interesting debate in Corbett-Anderson circles: Did KA really do what he wrote about? Or was he just playing off Corbett, somewhat too closely at times?
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I must have missed it but what about Kenneth Anderson?-Muddy Good question. I thought I had him on the list. I've added him. There is an interesting debate in Corbett-Anderson circles: Did KA really do what he wrote about? Or was he just playing off Corbett, somewhat too closely at times? which is kinda why i want to read Byrnes 'Gentlemen Hunter' as he follows in Corbett's foot steps a bit....even today there is no shortage of maneaters in India....when hunting the same species in the same environs your going to see a fair bit of similar experiences....easy to tell that reading African hunters and there is no doubt a fair number the guys BTDT as they were well recorded by 3rd parties in alot cases cause even though its a huge area they tended to bump into each other and get mentioned in each others writings...
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Corbett generally hunted in the Kumaon region, far North adj. to Nepal, and Anderson hunted much further South in Mysore State S&W of Bangalore. Muddy
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another part of the problem is if you bring up the term "maneater" in the western world two names come up immediately Corbett and to a lesser extent Patterson.....so everyone compares maneater hunters to COrbet doesnt matter if they do it intentionally or not...even reading guys like John Brandt and Gordon Young (Brandt is still alive not sure about Young) hunting maneaters in Southeast Asia after WWII through the post-Vietnam era i automatically start comparing them to Corbett even though it was both a different time and place, they are still hunting maneating tigers and leopards
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granted my Asian part of my library is no where near as extensive as my African part(but im working on it ) but it seems anyone that did alot of hunting in Asia went up against maneaters, Brandt is an American but he spent alot of time everywhere over there from India east to Vietnam and south through New Guinea and he wound up taking care of several maneaters even though a hunter he was there doing other things to pay the bills...as i said Gordon Young wound up facing them in Malaysia, Pat Byrne in India and Peter Byrne(not sure if they are related?) in Nepal.... none of them made a practice of hunting maneaters like Corbett or Anderson but they all have more than one story about taking care of them for locals....most the African hunters even through modern times with the likes of Tony Sanchez-Arino and John Kingsley-Heath took care of more than a few if they spent enough times in the field....there is not a shortage of maneaters even today in modern Africa and Asia.... http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-great-jim-corbett/article1-1268709.aspx
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I read my first Corbett about 55 years ago and most cats still scare the bejeezes outa me. Had a house cat sneak up behind me once, jump up on my back and sink all four paws worth in me. I can hardly imagine any one who would be strong enough to drag a pair around big enough to hunt a man eating Leopard. Muddy
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...when hunting the same species in the same environs your going to see a fair bit of similar experiences... Actually, the debate goes a little deeper than that. There are certain similarities when hunting similar species, no doubt. But it is the many parallels in the tales that bring up the questions. Here are a few, brought to my attention by a fellow who is more or less an expert in both men's writings, after I questioned him about the similarities I noticed. "In Man-Eaters of Kumaon, Corbett writes about an encounter with a King Cobra which he killed with a stone. Anderson also writes about a King Cobra which raised its hood which reached his height. Being a snake lover Anderson stood still until the cobra lowered its body and crawled away. "In the same book, the chapter titled Champawat Man-Eater, Corbett mentioned a spooky experience he had in a dak bungalow. Anderson too writes about encounters with various demons and ghosts in his book 'Tales from the Indian Jungle'. "In Jungle Lore, and again in My India, Corbett tells about how he learned the jungle craft from an early age with the help of Kunwar Singh, an established poacher who knew everything about tigers and other animals. Anderson too had a similar instructor, Byra, the Poojaree, a cunning poacher who was caught by him. Instead of serving jail sentence he agreed to teach Anderson everything he knew about the jungle craft. "In My India, Corbett relates the story of a bandit called 'Sultana' and how Sultana walked into his camp unarmed without making the slightest of sound. Anderson too had encounters with bandits, especially the one known as 'Mumptyvayan' who came silently one night unarmed when Anderson was sleeping in his tent pitched on a jungle clearing." These are just a few of the similarities in their writings. The one thing, too, that this gentleman pointed out to me was the fact that all of Corbett's man-eaters are readily documented, with dates, in government archives. The documentation of Anderson's man-eaters is either shaky or non-existent. Moreover, the location of Anderson's adventures (Mysore, Bangalore, Madras, Northern Malabar, and Hyderabad) was still under British jurisdiction at the time, and the British were known for keeping very detailed records of all animals that terrorized villagers. Few, if any, records of Anderson's man-eaters exist. If I was young and wanted a PhD, the similarities between the writings of Corbett and Anderson would be my dissertation topic. But I'm not, and as they say, I have "other fish to fry." One more thing: personally, this debate doesn't play much in my mind as I enjoy reading Anderson's tales as well, factual or not. And since Anderson's son, Donald, died just a few months ago, I suppose we'll never now know for sure.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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