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My son is in the Marines and wants to buy an A4 for home. You'd think he gets to use the real thing enough but it's his money. I only know of the Colt AR15A4. Does FN make a civilian one or anyone else? Not interested in building one and want as close to an actual A4 as possible.
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Colt would be the one to get. FN would be my second choice. This is what you want: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=448975603
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COLT or FN. Both are excellent companies and will give years of service. Impossible to go wrong between the two.
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I'd never buy a Colt lower. If you gotta have Colt, just buy the upper and slap it on a Spike's lower. Spikes is just as nicely finished and closer to milspec dimension-wise. No trigger blocks or high shelf BS.
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I'd never buy a Colt lower. If you gotta have Colt, just buy the upper and slap it on a Spike's lower. Spikes is just as nicely finished and closer to milspec dimension-wise. No trigger blocks or high shelf BS. And no large pin vs small pin. I'd just buy the FN and be done with it.
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I'd never buy a Colt lower. If you gotta have Colt, just buy the upper and slap it on a Spike's lower. Spikes is just as nicely finished and closer to milspec dimension-wise. No trigger blocks or high shelf BS. And no large pin vs small pin. I'd just buy the FN and be done with it. The current colts have standard pins and have for several years now. My Colt lower is much nicer than the Spikes I use to have. Although, for the lost part a lower is a lower. Nothing wrong with the Colts.
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Good to know. Glad to know they've joined the rest of the world in that respect. Thanks.
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yeah, was just thinking.. I have one of those weird pin ones... but they haven't done that in years now.
If resale was an issue, I'd buy colt. I don't sell, I buy.
I"d have what I want built...
There is the 3rd option and have it spec'd the same if htat was the desire but have a much better barrel and trigger etc....
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I have both, but would probably vote the other way around with FN over Colt. They are both really good rifles, but the FN has a nicer, higher quality finish and slightly tighter tolerances. This is from a sample size of one, though. After running carbines for so long, I forgot how much easier the full size rifles are to shoot, at least for me.
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Good to hear that the FN is nicely finished. It is hard to compare the two unless you have 50 of each. I have a Colt that's the nicest finished AR I have ever bought. Even the receivers have a nice snug fit. These things aren't finished like custom rifles though. AR's from almost any brand are put together from parts and fit and finish doesn't always match up perfectly. Sometimes they do. From what I have seen, it's more luck of the draw than what manufacturer assembled it.
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Like rost495 says, I don't sell. I buy.
Me, it's Colt. I tweak it from there. I don't think you would hurt yourself if you sprinkle in some Spike's. The Les Baer OP posted earlier is beautiful, but just not realistic on price ($3k).
Spike's are possibly some of the best deals out there for quality parts right now, IMHO. They are tough as nails. I have no idea why they've gotten this inexpensive lately, compared to other stuff that won't hold up. Probably just good marketing on the low dependability stuff. YMMV.
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I'd never buy a Colt lower. If you gotta have Colt, just buy the upper and slap it on a Spike's lower. Spikes is just as nicely finished and closer to milspec dimension-wise. No trigger blocks or high shelf BS. By "dimension-wise" are you just talking about the trigger block/high shelf? If not, what dimensions have you measured on Colt and Spikes lowers and what were the differences compared to the TDP?
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I'd never buy a Colt lower. If you gotta have Colt, just buy the upper and slap it on a Spike's lower. Spikes is just as nicely finished and closer to milspec dimension-wise. No trigger blocks or high shelf BS. By "dimension-wise" are you just talking about the trigger block/high shelf? Exactly.
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