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During the first week of November, 2016, there will be a GOP candidate and a DNC candidate.
The winner will need 105 million plus votes to be president.
Can we please stop talking about those in the thousands vote range? Holy chit! that'd be a hell of an illegal/dead people turnout... over 70 million. Kent
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Nothing wrong with Romney, McCain, Bush, Dole, Bush, Reagan and so on. Most everyone on this forum supported all of them I would assume.
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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Why don't we all just stay home and not vote, that'll show 'em.  Oh don't do that! The Republican Party is no different than any other business. If you keep buying their product they will continue to keep changing, but the second you stop buying it they will keep on doing the same thing over and over.
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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Principle wins no elections. The arrogance of one's principle, while noble, wins no elections either. It could affect them to some extent, admittedly.
The candidate capable of garnering over 100 million votes wins elections.
In our lifetime, principled voters will not affect that reality.
Right there with you Ike. We need someone just like you and me, willing to do anything to get rewarded.
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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Yawn.
Did you respond to my post because everyone else simply ignores you?
Who did you post as on the 24H before this silly sherp charade?
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Principle wins no elections. The arrogance of one's principle, while noble, wins no elections either. It could affect them to some extent, admittedly.
The candidate capable of garnering over 100 million votes wins elections.
In our lifetime, principled voters will not affect that reality.
I disagree counselor the principled voter who stayed home in
2010 did influence the out come , very much so, just not the out come they wanted. Cheers NC
don't judge until you have walked a mile in other persons' moccasins'
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Why would any principled voter stay home?
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
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because, unfortunately, kool-aid comes in multiple flavors.
While I admire the stance, I find it odd that this whole "stay home" motif plays out the most during election time.
It's apparent, however, if the other 729 days between elections that people would get their asses out of the home and contribute to their governance, maybe they wouldn't have to demonstrate their frustration with the ultimate in dumbphuckitude aka "staying home on election day"
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Is it the desperation your home state breeds or do you really believe the people would not back a true conservative?
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Principle wins no elections. The arrogance of one's principle, while noble, wins no elections either. It could affect them to some extent, admittedly.
The candidate capable of garnering over 100 million votes wins elections.
In our lifetime, principled voters will not affect that reality.
I disagree counselor the principled voter who stayed home in
2010 did influence the out come , very much so, just not the out come they wanted. Cheers NC
Both you guys need to get your dates and numbers right. In the 2012 election Obama got just under 66 million votes and Romney just under 61 million. That is where the 5 million conservative votes that Romney needed in the closest swing states number comes from.
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Hope those 5+ million "voters" are happy with their decision to stay home.
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Why would any principled voter stay home? Counselor I am basically agreeing with you by them staying home they are in fact voting but for the other side. Cheers NC
don't judge until you have walked a mile in other persons' moccasins'
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Is it the desperation your home state breeds or do you really believe the people would not back a true conservative? I don't believe a majority of American voters would back anybody you would accept as a true conservative.
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Principle wins no elections. The arrogance of one's principle, while noble, wins no elections either. It could affect them to some extent, admittedly.
The candidate capable of garnering over 100 million votes wins elections.
In our lifetime, principled voters will not affect that reality.
I disagree counselor the principled voter who stayed home in
2010 did influence the out come , very much so, just not the out come they wanted. Cheers NC
Both you guys need to get your dates and numbers right. In the 2012 election Obama got just under 66 million votes and Romney just under 61 million. That is where the 5 million conservative votes that Romney needed in the closest swing states number comes from. That and MSM including conservative pundits still use the election day numbers of 57 million for Romney vs 62 million for Bush in 2004. The reality is Bush got 62 mil, McCain 60 mil and Romney 61 mil. Kerry 59 mil, Obama 70 and 66 mil. 5 or even 3 million republicans didn't stay home. Older folks that are predominately GOP are dying, young folk are predominately liberal, minorities are out breeding us. Overall voting numbers are rising well above pre 2004 numbers and republicans are stagnant. GOP is shrinking by attrition. 2012... 72% of voters are white nonhispanic... minorities are at 28% with blacks leading with 13, hispanics undervote their demographic. It's still a white country and the blame goes squarely on that demographic... casting blame elsewhere is drinking from MSM propaganda. Kent
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Why would any principled voter stay home? I've never stayed home, and I've never voted anything but "R". But I don't know WTF I'd do if 2016 pres nominees were hillary vs cristie. She's more of a conservative republican than he is. Vote for her? Vote for the flaming liberal with the "R" beside his name? Stay home? What would you do?
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Why would any principled voter stay home? I've never stayed home, and I've never voted anything but "R". But I don't know WTF I'd do if 2016 pres nominees were hillary vs cristie. She's more of a conservative republican than he is. Vote for her? Vote for the flaming liberal with the "R" beside his name? Stay home? What would you do? I really don't think we will be faced with that choice. That would one of the worse of the worse scenarios. But if... As Governor of a deep blue state, Christie delivered his required balanced budgets and a very mixed bag of tax cuts and state pension reform bills, cutting some government programs;a very mixed message on gun control, illegal immigration and so on...he is now pro-life. Hillary has never been a Governor. She would run the government about as well as she did the State Dept...she has always been pro-choice and pro-gun control.
Leo of the Land of Dyr
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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I think cristie would make us wish we had obama back in the whitehouse.
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I'm not here to defend Christie. Don't see how he would win very many Red states.
But I like the idea that he has a set. Not afraid to tell someone to set down and shut up.
We need a Conservative that will do the same.
Leo of the Land of Dyr
NRA FOR LIFE
I MISS SARAH
“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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I'm not gonna drag this thread off topic any further. We've got two years to talk about cristy. He's got a bunch of supporters here on the fire so it WILL come up again. All I'm going to say now is they loved him over on DU until he yelled at that teacher.
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You are right about Christie. Never saw him as much more that a stalking horse for Jeb.
Same for those who are trying to drag Romney back.
Rand Paul has sort of a set of balls when he is not flip-flopping back and forth.
Ted Cruz has a set and he don't flip for nobody.
Neither does Palin. If any lady can have a set...it is Sarah.
I hope to see them all in the primaries.
Leo of the Land of Dyr
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I MISS SARAH
“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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