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Actions actions Actions #9304209 11/02/14
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,863 Likes: 1 Iowa J JerradPelzer OP Campfire Tracker
OP JerradPelzer Campfire Tracker J Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,863 Likes: 1 Iowa	What action is the best of the best for a hunting type paper punching rifle. Borden,stiller pierce etc etc????? Thanks. And I already know I have a problem

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Re: Actions actions Actions JerradPelzer #9304242 11/02/14
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,789 Buffalo, Wyoming Sendero_man Campfire Regular
Sendero_man Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,789 Buffalo, Wyoming	Defiance, Defiance, Defiance.... http://defiancemachine.com/custom-bolt-actions/ Last edited by Sendero_man; 11/02/14.

Re: Actions actions Actions Sendero_man #9304254 11/02/14
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,863 Likes: 1 Iowa J JerradPelzer OP Campfire Tracker
OP JerradPelzer Campfire Tracker J Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,863 Likes: 1 Iowa	Was just looking at them. What one do you like for hunting rifle? Hunter?

Re: Actions actions Actions JerradPelzer #9304272 11/02/14
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,863 Likes: 1 Iowa J JerradPelzer OP Campfire Tracker
OP JerradPelzer Campfire Tracker J Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,863 Likes: 1 Iowa	Really like the options they have I for some reason would like a right bolt left port as I'm left eye dominate. Be a little different at first but would probably like it in the long run

Re: Actions actions Actions JerradPelzer #9304288 11/02/14
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,662 Likes: 1 Utah B boatanchor Campfire Tracker
boatanchor Campfire Tracker B Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,662 Likes: 1 Utah	Bat,bat, BAT machine Like their slogan says "buy the best and cry once"

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Re: Actions actions Actions boatanchor #9304363 11/02/14
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,470 Likes: 1 jennings lodge, oregon Oregonmuley Campfire Tracker
Oregonmuley Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,470 Likes: 1 jennings lodge, oregon	Jerrad, Here you go in the classifieds - if I hadn't just bought the Ti7MM-08 I'd be all over this one!! Good deal on the Defiance. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth.../1/Defiance_Rebel_308_short_actio#UNREAD "Rather hunt Mule deer than anything else" "Team 7MM-08"

Re: Actions actions Actions Oregonmuley #9304410 11/02/14
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OP JerradPelzer Campfire Tracker J Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,863 Likes: 1 Iowa	Originally Posted by Oregonmuley Jerrad, Here you go in the classifieds - if I hadn't just bought the Ti7MM-08 I'd be all over this one!! Good deal on the Defiance. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth.../1/Defiance_Rebel_308_short_actio#UNREAD I better get on selling some stuff!!! Just started thinking about this will see what I come up with. But after shooting a handful of guns yesterday the thought of downsizing just a tad and building one really nice one has me thinking!!

Re: Actions actions Actions JerradPelzer #9304455 11/02/14
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,596 UT Gledeasy Campfire Regular
Gledeasy Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,596 UT	Originally Posted by Oregonmuley Jerrad, Here you go in the classifieds - if I hadn't just bought the Ti7MM-08 I'd be all over this one!! Good deal on the Defiance. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth.../1/Defiance_Rebel_308_short_actio#UNREAD That would be a good one no doubt.

Re: Actions actions Actions Gledeasy #9304513 11/02/14
Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 38 Montana Z zfastmalibu Campfire Greenhorn
zfastmalibu Campfire Greenhorn Z Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 38 Montana	I have used them all. Bats can't be faulted in qc or design. I don't like their short firing pin fall, so I don't use them anymore. Pierce is a great action, I wish the closing ramps matched the lug angle, but that is their only fault. My pierce was the smoothest opening/closing action I have ever felt. They are also easy to time. Kelbys are also great in design and qc. They have a shallow cocking ramp so you must have cock on close to get enough firing pin fall. This can be fixed but its alot of work (like the Bat). Borden has his design right in my opinion. It is my current choice. Stiller, I can not recommend this action. Qc and closing ramp design. Have not owned a Defiance. I am picky and like my actions timed while still having correct pin fall. I know most don't care that much. I think they will all shoot to about the same potential, I just have certain design features I like. Just because its a custom do not think it will be perfect. I have found a lot of issues with new actions. Check everything. Look at the Pierce Titanium action, saves a half pound over steel. Last edited by zfastmalibu; 11/02/14.

Re: Actions actions Actions JerradPelzer #9304696 11/02/14
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,789 Buffalo, Wyoming Sendero_man Campfire Regular
Sendero_man Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,789 Buffalo, Wyoming	Originally Posted by JerradPelzer Was just looking at them. What one do you like for hunting rifle? Hunter? I have a Templar V2 action showing up Tuesday. GA Precision stamped Deviant. Owned 5 of their actions now. Highly recommend ! GAP Extreme Hunter in 6.5 SAUM 4S

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Re: Actions actions Actions Sendero_man #9304721 11/02/14
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,863 Likes: 1 Iowa J JerradPelzer OP Campfire Tracker
OP JerradPelzer Campfire Tracker J Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,863 Likes: 1 Iowa	That's a sharp looking gun. By buddy would give his left but for it!

Re: Actions actions Actions JerradPelzer #9304746 11/02/14
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,789 Buffalo, Wyoming Sendero_man Campfire Regular
Sendero_man Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,789 Buffalo, Wyoming	For a hunting rifle, tactical rifle, etc... In my opinion you can't go wrong with a Defiance Machine ! Another couple... 6mm Crusader coyote rifle 300 WSM non Typical (sold) for Extreme Hunter

Re: Actions actions Actions zfastmalibu #9305194 11/02/14
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,446 GREENSBURG, PA 300MAG Campfire Tracker
300MAG Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,446 GREENSBURG, PA	Originally Posted by zfastmalibu I have used them all. Bats can't be faulted in qc or design. I don't like their short firing pin fall, so I don't use them anymore. Pierce is a great action, I wish the closing ramps matched the lug angle, but that is their only fault. My pierce was the smoothest opening/closing action I have ever felt. They are also easy to time. Kelbys are also great in design and qc. They have a shallow cocking ramp so you must have cock on close to get enough firing pin fall. This can be fixed but its alot of work (like the Bat). Borden has his design right in my opinion. It is my current choice. Stiller, I can not recommend this action. Qc and closing ramp design. Have not owned a Defiance. I am picky and like my actions timed while still having correct pin fall. I know most don't care that much. I think they will all shoot to about the same potential, I just have certain design features I like. Just because its a custom do not think it will be perfect. I have found a lot of issues with new actions. Check everything. Look at the Pierce Titanium action, saves a half pound over steel. What kind of issues have you found?? On what actions??

Re: Actions actions Actions 300MAG #9305314 11/02/14
Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 38 Montana Z zfastmalibu Campfire Greenhorn
zfastmalibu Campfire Greenhorn Z Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 38 Montana	Lug contact, firing pin bind, sloppy machine work, firing pin holes crooked, warped bolts. Had I built on one of them as is i may have spent a lot of time a money trying to figure out why they would not shoot to potential. Just because they go bang does not mean everything is right.

Re: Actions actions Actions zfastmalibu #9305739 11/02/14
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 786 busterhindend Campfire Regular
busterhindend Campfire Regular Joined: May 2012 Posts: 786	I kinda like what Beanland can do with Bighorn actions Michael Jordan once told me that no one likes name droppers. I would like to give a shout out to sidewalks for keeping me off the streets

Re: Actions actions Actions busterhindend #9305881 11/02/14
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,596 UT Gledeasy Campfire Regular
Gledeasy Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,596 UT	For a hunting rifle you really can't go wrong with a Borden. I like the bolt handle he uses as it is slender and doesn't get in the way. However; it's not a one piece like other manufacturers. IMO, If you are wanting a hunting/tactical combo rifle I would go with a Defiance over the Borden. Their Deviant Hunter intrigues me.

Re: Actions actions Actions Gledeasy #9306040 11/02/14
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jowens Campfire Regular J Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,103 Middle TN	BAT

Re: Actions actions Actions jowens #9306301 11/03/14
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,915 Lubbock, Texas H Huntr Campfire Outfitter
Huntr Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,915 Lubbock, Texas	Another Defiance fan here. I have 2 of them currently and can see more in my future. Oh, both of mine are hunting rigs.

Re: Actions actions Actions jowens #9306452 11/03/14
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,446 GREENSBURG, PA 300MAG Campfire Tracker
300MAG Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,446 GREENSBURG, PA	Originally Posted by jowens BAT Mine just arrived:

Re: Actions actions Actions jowens #9306642 11/03/14
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,757 Oklahoma City Ok P Popapi Campfire Tracker
Popapi Campfire Tracker P Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,757 Oklahoma City Ok	Originally Posted by jowens BAT Got mine for another Gradous build!!!!!

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