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Which one would you prefer for hunting?
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.243 for the simple reason of ammunition availability.
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243 trumps the 250 in every way.
But sometimes good enough is good enough. That's why I have both.
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^^^^^
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The .250 has the 'skookum' factor...
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Got both but prefer the .250 since it's a lever action and the .243 is a bolt.
The .243 cartridge may have an edge over the .250, But 87 grain Hot-Cors have killed everything I've launched them at so I'm pretty happy with the old timer.
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If you are talking Whitetails - 250. I grew up in a family of 250 Savage packing hunters and proud to carry on that tradition.
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got me thinking 250 ackley since steelhead made me want one lol
i played with the 250-3000 and didn't like it much because it seemed like 100's were the most bullet it liked before it ran out of powder room. but the ackley version will do it all.
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If you are talking Whitetails - 250. I grew up in a family of 250 Savage packing hunters and proud to carry on that tradition. I'm talking in terms of whatever use you would have for these cartridges . Whether that is varmints, deer,, elk, or something else. I just want to see which one guys prefer and why.
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I'd vote for the 243 for varmints. And for deer, I'd rather have a 257 pushing 120's. For anything larger than deer, I wouldn't want either one.
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I have used both on deer and didn't see any difference in performance. The 243 gets the nod for ammo availability but the 250 seems to have a little more nostalgia going for it.
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I'd go with a 250 in a 99 or a model 1920. This is based solely on shear "coolness"...wish I could have swung the 1920 came through a local shop last year...was told that the older guy that had it was selling it because one kid didn't hunt and the other didn't think it was "enough rifle" for deer...I bet it would've worked just fine for whitetails.
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I don't think a guy could tell much difference between the two with well placed shots. I own both but think the 243 beats the 250 in all aspects. AI the 250 and it opens up a whole new world.
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The 250-3000 is a bit classier. ![[Linked Image]](http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx32/madisonvalleywapiti/DSCN1143.jpg)
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The ammo for the 250 is difficult to find.....But its a great round for deer 100 grain
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250 Savage and/or 250 AI all day.....every day.
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.243 is hard to beat for Varmints & WhiteTails here in TX with such a wide variety of bullet weights to choose from. And I've killed a truck load of feral hogs with mine, also. But deer are pretty small bodied animals, here in TX. Anything bigger, I usually go with my 7 X 57 
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The 250 has style, and i killed my first deer with it. I have a ruger 77 tang rsi put back for when my daughters start hunting
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the .250 is my favorite cartridge, although a scientific reason doesnt exist to pick it over the .243. for reloading it all you need is a lb of H4895 and some 87's or 100's.
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I have had both but kept the 250. No reason other than it was my first "deer" rifle and I really like it.
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The 250-3000 is a bit classier. Damn, My man, did you buy your scope by the inch on payday? Rifle do have the coolness factor! 
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its been said on here before, but a Kimber in .250 sav would be pretty bitchin.
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Not a fan of the .243, no particular reason why. Had one, made me yawn.
the .250, much like the .300 H&H, is retro-cool, and that's why I currently have 2.
Would definitely like a kimber in .250 to go with the others.
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250-3000, of course. The nostalgia alone is enough to make game tremble. Lol.
As far as ammo goes, and brass, we should be able to neck up 22-250 brass. Also the A.I version is top notch.
For us 1/14 shooters we should be lobbing for the 75 grain x bullet to be brought back, or maybe it has already.
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What he hell is a .243 Winchester? Don't have any of those currently but I do have a boat load of .250s  . Not really sure how the .243 "beats" the .250 (except in ammo availability) but that's what the gun writers said when the .243 emerged so I suppose it is true. In my experience they both seem to kill animals to about the same degree of dead?!! PennDog
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I only have one 250. I don't hunt with it much because it's in really good shape and I'm hard on guns. So my usual deer rifle is a 243. When I'm not carrying a 223. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a552/ad82208/0729131429a_zps83cf7c86.jpg)
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What he hell is a .243 Winchester? Don't have any of those currently but I do have a boat load of .250s . Not really sure how the .243 "beats" the .250 (except in ammo availability) but that's what the gun writers said when the .243 emerged so I suppose it is true. In my experience they both seem to kill animals to about the same degree of dead?!! PennDog A 243 with 105's is something to see. But if all your shooting is at 53 yards you'll not notice.
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They're pretty similar and I wouldn't carry one for anything I wouldn't carry the other. That said, I bought a .243 Remington model 7 this summer and it has pretty much eliminated my desire to add a .250 savage to my arsenal.
Both fill the same role in my eyes, excellent varmint/ deer cross over round, neither would be my choice for anything larger or tougher than black bears.
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I only shoot to a maximum of 52.786543 yards (lasered) so I'm cool Steelhead......and I'm sure those 105s are something special to see - bet they can even slay werewolves and do it at 54 yards  . Nothing against the .243......just having some fun PennDog
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I have a .250 AI in an XP-100. Nice lightweight deer and antelope cartridge - took an antelope at 320 yds with it. Longer neck than 243 might give you longer barrel life if you plan to shoot the rifle a lot. Factory ammo is harder to find for the .250, but to get optimal performance for your rifle and shooting needs you should reload anyway, so it is a non-issue.
At the risk of being an enabler, why not get both?
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243 for me. It gets the job done from coyotes through deer, and I suppose elk wouldn't be too hard either.
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Have never owned a .25, wouldn't mind a .250 my .243 is a good rifle though. A no frills WW Ranger in a used Featherweight stock. Also have a really old B & C stock for it.
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I have had both. As most have said once you close the bolt neither you or the deer will notice much difference.
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its been said on here before, but a Kimber in .250 sav would be pretty bitchin. That is my ULA in 250AI on bottom. May be my favorite. But a Montana would be cool. ![[Linked Image]](http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r61/sbark1/DSCN0751-1.jpg)
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Not a fan of the .243, no particular reason why. Had one, made me yawn.
Same here. Not sure what it is.......but the 243 and the 25-06.....ho-hum.
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its been said on here before, but a Kimber in .250 sav would be pretty bitchin. That is my ULA in 250AI on bottom. May be my favorite. But a Montana would be cool. What are the rest of those beauts? I like the zebra! Mike
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Nothing shot would ever tell the difference but I am like others here. No reason why a 243 bores me to tears while the 6mm is so dear AND a 250 so cool.
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I only have one 250. I don't hunt with it much because it's in really good shape and I'm hard on guns. So my usual deer rifle is a 243. When I'm not carrying a 223. I hunt all my rifles hard....that is what they are for.
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243 or 250? YES. Either. Both. Lean to the 250 for most deer 243 for pronghorns works, bit explosive for my taste if not shooting "a fair piece over yonder". If you have one and not the other it's "shopping time", just so's you have an honest opinion.
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6BR/105 can run w/a 250. Before I do a wildcat, I'd rather a 6.5x47 using 100-120gr. That said a member did a 6XC on a Montana - sweet!
Not much a 6mm-08 cannot do from paper thru black bear/caribou.
Both not a bad option, I had my eyes on a Cooper 250-3000, Ruger 1KA and 77RSI SS respectively.
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The .243 beat out the .250 not because "the gun writers" said it was better, but because SOME gun writers promoted it, including one very influential writer who basically designed it, Warren Page. (I always enjoy it when somebody claims all gun writers say the same thing.)
The .243 did have advantages when it appeared in 1955. One was a 1-10 twist, and most .250's didn't have a 1-10 at the time, but a 1-14 which didn't always shoot well with every 100-grain bullet. (Of course, Remington somehow bypassed this basic knowledge when they brought out the .244, also designed by Warren Page, but that's history.)
These days the .243 beats the .250 for SOME hunting because brass is far more available, plus a wider variety of bullets. But if you handload, you can use .22-250 brass in a .250, and in fact it's often better quality than today's .250 brass.
As far as killing deer there isn't any difference, unless you want to shoot them at 500+ yards, where the .243 wins because of (again) a far wider bullet selection for that task.
In cool factor the .250 wins easily, both because of its longer history and the older rifles still available. If you use a "modern" .250, with a Remington 700 or Savage action, stainless barrel, and synthetic stock you lose a lot of style points, but are still probably ahead of the .243.
If you Ackley Improve the .250 (as if it could be improved) you lose to the .243, whether the rifle's traditional or modern. In fact you might lose even more style points if you AI a .250 99 Savage.
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for my take, they are both the same generally speaking.
If interested in a few longer shots the 243 has it hands down.
I have more than a couple of dead deer with it past 500...
And a passle of em between 300-400 yards...
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The .243 beat out the .250 not because "the gun writers" said it was better, but because SOME gun writers promoted it, including one very influential writer who basically designed it, Warren Page. (I always enjoy it when somebody claims all gun writers say the same thing.)
The .243 did have advantages when it appeared in 1955. One was a 1-10 twist, and most .250's didn't have a 1-10 at the time, but a 1-14 which didn't always shoot well with every 100-grain bullet. (Of course, Remington somehow bypassed this basic knowledge when they brought out the .244, also designed by Warren Page, but that's history.)
These days the .243 beats the .250 for SOME hunting because brass is far more available, plus a wider variety of bullets. But if you handload, you can use .22-250 brass in a .250, and in fact it's often better quality than today's .250 brass.
As far as killing deer there isn't any difference, unless you want to shoot them at 500+ yards, where the .243 wins because of (again) a far wider bullet selection for that task.
In cool factor the .250 wins easily, both because of its longer history and the older rifles still available. If you use a "modern" .250, with a Remington 700 or Savage action, stainless barrel, and synthetic stock you lose a lot of style points, but are still probably ahead of the .243.
If you Ackley Improve the .250 (as if it could be improved) you lose to the .243, whether the rifle's traditional or modern. In fact you might lose even more style points if you AI a .250 99 Savage. Agree, the .250 is old-skool-cool...but it stops there.... The bullets make the .243. Current build in progress is a .243...wait for it...AI'd...in a synthetic stock...with a fast twist barrel... 
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MD my apologizes to you and all gun writers that I offended by lumping them into the same category - really didn't mean to do that...guess that the cynicism was lost - seriously just trying to have some fun?!
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As long as Nosler makes a deer suitable Partition and Hornady makes the same weight in an InterLock's I'm pretty happy regardless of case or diameter.
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Not a fan of the .243, no particular reason why. Had one, made me yawn.
Same here. Not sure what it is.......but the 243 and the 25-06.....ho-hum. ditto for me as well....but i do like my .250's. ![[Linked Image]](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/FyrepowrX/2-CENTERFIRES/DSCF9611.jpg)
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PennDog,
No problem. I actually had my tongue partway in my cheek too.
Though a few years ago my wife and I had a table at a Montana gun show to sell some of our books. One guy came by and started looking at them, eventually figuring out I was the "gun writer" with my name on some of the covers.
He immediately went into a rant about how "all you gun writers say the .270 isn't enough for African game," and would not listen when I tried to say I'd seen the .270 wdo fine work in Africa. In fact I'd recently assured a friend that he didn't need to buy a new rifle for his first African safari, because his .270 would work fine.
But this guy evidently held some sort of grudge against all gun writers because of what some (or maybe one) had written! He would not shut up, and ranted on for at a least a couple of minutes before moving on down the aisle.
So yeah, maybe I am a little sensitized to anybody suggesting that all gun writers say the same things!
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So did Shrap ever come back and buy the book? JUST Kidding! Mike
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Typical gunwriter answer.... 
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Which one would you prefer for hunting? 243
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I would go for the 250 my self...
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The correct answer is "both".
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.250 every time. Here's the Dakota: ![[Linked Image]](http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/shootinurse/Rifles/Rifles001.jpg) And the 700 Classic: ![[Linked Image]](http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/shootinurse/Rifles/004.jpg) 75gr V-max for varmints, 100gr Hornady for larger critters. The old 99 does a great job on everything with 87gr Hot-cores.
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MD, No problem (I am sensitive about generalities that are typically inaccurate in my line of business as well!)......guess my sense of humor needs refined My point was that I have seen no real world difference between the two - I do however have a REAL fondness for anything marked "250 Savage"......to the tune of 9+ rifles (have a couple of parts guns that I intend to make "whole" someday?!). It does nothing that the .243 won't do, but the converse is true as well and I guess I like the oldies!!! PennDog p.s. you guys are killing me - I see a couple of .250s I do not have!! My holy grail is a kurtz action - one of my buddies picked one up recently and I am terribly envious
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I keep coming back to this thread and it's got me thinking.
Several years back I bought a LH Tikka Whitetail Hunter in .243. It's a great rifle with the best trigger of any rifle I own and it's very accurate with 100 grain bullets. The .243 killed deer just fine and left me no room to complain...
But, A couple of years ago I became infatuated with Savage model 99 rifles and bought one (on the 'fire) in .300 Savage and loved it.
A year later I bought a beautiful little 99 in .250 (again, here on the 'fire) and it's become my favorite rifle for deer hunting.
It's light, points well and with 87 grain Hot-Cor bullets is just the perfect killing machine for the deer here in N. Arkansas.
Since I got the .250 the Tikka has been gathering dust and will probably be sold since I enjoy hunting with the Savage so much more than the .243.
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PennDog,
I have hesitated to suggest it so far, but maybe the real answer is a cartridge halfway between the two, both in case shape and bullet diameter. That would be the hardcore rifle loony solution!
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I'm really surprised the 25 Souper never took off, but I guess with the .243 pretty near killing off the .250-3000 and the .257 Roberts in the marketplace no one figured a .25 medium case of any kind was worth pursuing. A .25 Souper Improved with a 28 or 30 degree shoulder would trump the .243, .250 Savage and .257 Roberts in one fell swoop. IMNSHO, of course.
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Damn you guys. 250 barrel is heading this way for my savage model 10. Dont have much free cash but could afford an er shaw
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Just to summarize this thread and extrapolate a bit. BORING Easy availability of ammo. Easy availability of components (mostly cases). Lots of slippery bullets available. A plethora of modern rifles chambered for it. Standard manual loads in the 60-65 kpsi range. Lots of published, pressure tested loads with up to date components. Created or legitimized post World War II. EXCITING, NEATO, COOLER THAN THE FONZ. Relatively scarce availability of loaded ammo. Relatively scarce availability of components (mostly cases), with some manufacturers only creating annual runs. No modern firearms chambered for it except limited runs or from smaller manufacturers. Standard manual loads in the under 60 kpsi range, often way under. A relative scarcity of published loads using limited numbers of older powders and often copies of data from older manuals. Invented pre World War II. Preferably invented pre World War I. Double extra credit if it was invented pre Spanish American War. Just wanted to make sure I understand the criteria.
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PennDog,
I have hesitated to suggest it so far, but maybe the real answer is a cartridge halfway between the two, both in case shape and bullet diameter. That would be the hardcore rifle loony solution! Just split the difference and go with my favorite cartridge...the 6XC.
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God knows that I love a "new" cartridge and God also knows that every year I have been able to procure these cartridges I have tried in vain to find the "perfect" rifle/cartridge combination for the majority of my big game hunting (85% deer, 15% everything else - no big bears) and have concluded, based on these last 45 years that a 6.5 caliber would accomplish all that I need to have done give or take a caliber or two I see no real world advantage to any caliber over another at the distances I shoot game (contrary to Scott's opinion of 53 yards out to about 400 yds or so). That all said, in my attempt to find this perfect combination I have accumulated my equivalent of a 401K so I could be worse!! I am all for a B-24.5 - would that be a 6.5 Remington Magnum necked to .250 caliber? could use 25ACP bullets for minimal pelt damage PennDog
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My son shoots a 6mm-250 and I load the 85 Gr. TSX's for him. He shot one doe with the TSX and one doe with a 85 gr. Partition. Both deer very dead. I really love that cartridge.
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As you can tell, I am a .250-3000 fan. I am a big fan of the 75 gr. V-Max bullet. It has proven extremely accurate in several 250s.
I find the .243 Win. boring, for no obvious reason. I recommend the .243 to shooters who don't reload, but reloaders usually find the .250 Sav. to be very enjoyable to work with.
I gave my only .243 Win. to a nephew who doesn't reload (yet).
The .243 caliber rifle that I do own and enjoy is the better one, the 6x57, thank you very much.
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I am surprised nobody from the Savage Collector forum has kicked in. I have several rifles in .243. The only thing I've ever shot and killed with one are woodchucks. The only deer shot survived. (for sure). I have many Savage rifles in 250-3000. Have shot several deer and NONE walked away. I need to say, I am more impressed with 87 grain bullets by FAR than I am with 100 grain pills. To me, the 87 seems to produce a kill much quicker that a 100. It's just an observation on my part. This one was taken with a model 1920 with an 87. ![[Linked Image]](http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/longbeardking/stevesfirstbuck.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/longbeardking/Heart.jpg) And this one with a 250-3000EG. BOTH DRT!!!!!!!!!!! ![[Linked Image]](http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/longbeardking/100_1037.jpg)
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Very nice. I am surprised nobody from the Savage Collector forum has kicked in. I have several rifles in .243. The only thing I've ever shot and killed with one are woodchucks. The only deer shot survived. (for sure). I have many Savage rifles in 250-3000. Have shot several deer and NONE walked away. I need to say, I am more impressed with 87 grain bullets by FAR than I am with 100 grain pills. To me, the 87 seems to produce a kill much quicker that a 100. It's just an observation on my part. This one was taken with a model 1920 with an 87. And this one with a 250-3000EG. BOTH DRT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yep, the 87 grainer has magical powers. Lol. I never have used any hundred grainers, but my dad has. He says the same thing.
The two deer that I did shoot with a 243, were DRT also. Spine shots with 70 ballistic tips.
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love my 250 savage with 87gr ![[Linked Image]](http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/mooshoo801/SDC13035_zps89ad26b0.jpg) and here is brother Bill with his savage 1920 in 250 savage ![[Linked Image]](http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/mooshoo801/SDC12339.jpg)
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I guess it all boils down to being 6 of one and a half dozen of another. Whatever works for you will be just fine. No need to split hairs. Deer are thin skinned and relatively easy to kill if they are unalarmed. Here's a model 14 American Classic in 250 Savage. I bought it to have the faster twist for heavier bullets. It also did the job with Winchester factory 100 grain silvertips. This rifle doesn't "crank me up" like the nostalgic Savages do, but it DOES the deed. ![[Linked Image]](http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/longbeardking/IMG_2789_zps058e9ef4.jpg)
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LBK: That Model 20 in .250 was Larry Kollers favorite whitetail rifle...but I'll bet you knew that...
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LBK: That Model 20 in .250 was Larry Kollers favorite whitetail rifle...but I'll bet you knew that... Yes I did. I have the book and have read it so many times I took the dust jacket off of it and put the jacket in a manila envelope to protect it. I now have 4 1920's and have yet to find one completely original.
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here's another pic of my savage barrel band ![[Linked Image]](http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/mooshoo801/SDC12465_zps2c626969.jpg) and brother Bill's 1920 ![[Linked Image]](http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/mooshoo801/SDC12940_zps76a08ce4.jpg)
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here's another pic of my savage barrel band and brother Bill's 1920 C'MON.................You tryin' to make an old many drown in his own drool!!!!!!
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sorry!! but I love the 250 savage!!! and the 87 grainer's, now if I could draw a tag I could put up some cool pic's like yours!!!
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243 with 85 TSX or 80 TTSX will kill everything and is easy to find if you don't reload.
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Hunted with a 243 for years, nothing wrong with it. But given a choice now, a 250 any day. Hard part is choosing which one. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.savagefest.net/my_99s/250s_Left_Medium.JPG)
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Why don't I feel sorry for you ??????
Why does a man who is 50 pounds overweight complain about a 10 pound rifle being too heavy?
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I'll take a .243 any day ending in y. Funny as schit to see all the guys that'll take the .250 even though it's clearly inferior in every way just because they think a .250 is cooler or more old school.
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I'll take a .243 any day ending in y. Funny as schit to see all the guys that'll take the .250 even though it's clearly inferior in every way just because they think a .250 is cooler or more old school. People carry revolvers and 1911's everyday just because they want to. Some even drive Dodge trucks when there is a Toyota dealership on every corner. Just the way the world turns.
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You have aptly named yourself.
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N8 - thats it - was in Dallas at a gun show, could not put it down, but did not pull the trigger. Should be efficient in short tubes.
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It seems like we've taken yet another perfectly good thread and seized the opportunity to start calling out another because their opinions are different that yours. As I said before. .243,,,,,,,,,,,,,or 250-3000. What the hell difference does it make other than we ALL like guns. Either play nice or get the hell out of my sandbox.
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It ain't your sandbox Buckwheat and your opinion is of no more relaevence than anyone else's.
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And furthermore, if there was ever an uglier rifle made than a Savage 99, I sure as hell don't want to see it.
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Funny as schit to see all the guys that'll take the .250 even though it's clearly inferior in every way just because they think a .250 is cooler or more old school. Even more funny as $hit coming from a guy who worships the 30-30. STFU dumbass.......
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Wonder what it would cost for Pac- Nor or someone to make me a duplicate .250 barrel for my takedown 99. In .300 Savage? Proper twist for up to 120gr and below bullets.
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And furthermore, if there was ever an uglier rifle made than a Savage 99, I sure as hell don't want to see it. Are you this pleasant in person?
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And furthermore, if there was ever an uglier rifle made than a Savage 99, I sure as hell don't want to see it. Are you this pleasant in person? He's a complete dumbfuck..........
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I don't worship the .30-30 but the 94 Win. is skookum and far better looking than the sav. 99. The .35 Rem is lame no matter the rifle.
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Funny as schit to see all the guys that'll take the .250 even though it's clearly inferior in every way just because they think a .250 is cooler or more old school. Even more funny as $hit coming from a guy who worships the 30-30. STFU dumbass....... What's wrong with the 30-30? they are so cool they should be called the 30-30-30,or triple 30 because they can shoot a 30 caliber bullet at 30fps,and kill good at 30 yards.Just kidding...The 243,and 250 are both great not because of the slight case case capicity,or bullet diameter difference between the two,but because the folks who use these calibers are the same type hunters.They don't take pop shots at deer ,or shoot deer in the azz.
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And furthermore, if there was ever an uglier rifle made than a Savage 99, I sure as hell don't want to see it. Are you this pleasant in person? Every bit Nancy.
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Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Blackheart. Were you born stupid or have you had to work at it??????????????????????????????????????????????
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Shot anymore goats on your porch lately? Only a couple. Pickins is slim lately.
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Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Blackheart. Were you born stupid or have you had to work at it?????????????????????????????????????????????? I work hard at everything I do. Howsabout yourself ?
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If a goat was on my porch I would shoot it fer trespassing. Me too.
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Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Blackheart. Were you born stupid or have you had to work at it?????????????????????????????????????????????? I work hard at everything I do. Howsabout yourself ? I'm too old to work hard. I work smart instead. The key word is work. I'm 70 and learned that lesson well. I also learned to respect others ideas. "Cept of course if you're a liberal Democrat and that's what you strike me as.
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Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Blackheart. Were you born stupid or have you had to work at it?????????????????????????????????????????????? I work hard at everything I do. Howsabout yourself ? I'm too old to work hard. I work smart instead. The key word is work. I'm 70 and learned that lesson well. I also learned to respect others ideas. "Cept of course if you're a liberal Democrat and that's what you strike me as. Age hasn't increased your IQ any there Moses.
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The onliest thing I hate worst than a goat on my porch is a Jehovias Witness on my porch. We had the Witnesses come pretty regular a few years back and they were set on saving my soul, even when I told them I was an elder of my Lutheran church. I have told them they will be burnt in hell. What really helped is the day I had one of the visitors in the middle of my yard telling me all about it. My dog started humping this guys leg, and this was not usual. I did not call the dog off, and to this day, I laugh about it. They have not been back since!
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Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Blackheart. Were you born stupid or have you had to work at it?????????????????????????????????????????????? I work hard at everything I do. Howsabout yourself ? I'm too old to work hard. I work smart instead. The key word is work. I'm 70 and learned that lesson well. I also learned to respect others ideas. "Cept of course if you're a liberal Democrat and that's what you strike me as. Age hasn't increased your IQ any there Moses. Maybe not in your eyes. But who really give a flyin' fu*ck what you think. You act like a typical scumbag trollin' liberal. I'll bet your favorite color is blue.
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I am surprised nobody from the Savage Collector forum has kicked in. I have several rifles in .243. The only thing I've ever shot and killed with one are woodchucks. The only deer shot survived. (for sure). I have many Savage rifles in 250-3000. Have shot several deer and NONE walked away. I need to say, I am more impressed with 87 grain bullets by FAR than I am with 100 grain pills. To me, the 87 seems to produce a kill much quicker that a 100. It's just an observation on my part. This one was taken with a model 1920 with an 87. And this one with a 250-3000EG. BOTH DRT!!!!!!!!!!! Always love seeing your pictures LBK.
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I am surprised nobody from the Savage Collector forum has kicked in. I have several rifles in .243. The only thing I've ever shot and killed with one are woodchucks. The only deer shot survived. (for sure). I have many Savage rifles in 250-3000. Have shot several deer and NONE walked away. I need to say, I am more impressed with 87 grain bullets by FAR than I am with 100 grain pills. To me, the 87 seems to produce a kill much quicker that a 100. It's just an observation on my part. This one was taken with a model 1920 with an 87. And this one with a 250-3000EG. BOTH DRT!!!!!!!!!!! Always love seeing your pictures LBK. Thank you. It's a fond memory for me as well. It's just a great feeling for me when I kill a deer with a rifle of yesteryear. And it matters not to me if it's a Remington, Winchester, Marlin, OR a Savage. I'm nor rich enough to have them all so the ones I do have mean a great deal to me.
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LBK are you headed back to Anticosti this year?
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LBK are you headed back to Anticosti this year? Yes. Nancy and I leave Sunday after next. November 16th. I am worse than a little kid. I struggle with "which" caliber gun I should bring. Right now I have packed a .308 EG. A proven gun that I made a 225 yard shot on a deer. And an 1899 250-3000. An oldtimer I have never hunted with but shoots paper great. My dilemma is I really want to take an octagon barrel .303 Savage instead of the .308. The .303 also shoots great. HELP me................
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I know you haven't been yet, but how are the deer doing there? I thought I read that they had a BAD winter several years ago that really knocked their dicks in the dirt.
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Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Blackheart. Were you born stupid or have you had to work at it?????????????????????????????????????????????? I'm going with both on that. Both the the genes and the extra effort are self-evident...........
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Same again last winter. They are already apologizing for the fact that hunters may actually have to "hunt" this year. Nan and I are not overly concerned. We seldom spend much time sitting. As long as the weather isn't warm/vs cool/cold, what deer there are will be active. Neither of us are trophy hunters so we aren't all that selective. And , yes, there ARE "Anticosti" trophies. They just wouldn't be classed as such anyplace else. I am certain we will come back with tags filled. Full report to follow. Success OR failure.
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U.P. deer were hit REAL bad 2 years in a row. They dropped like flies.....
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LBK...looking forward to the Anticosti report...one of my fave things each year...... Take the .303.......
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Before my eyes got too old to use irons I used to fill a tag each year with something old. My Win model 64 was my favorite, and I had more fun shooting a two point dink with it than a monster buck with a whiz bang scoped gun. I even took two safaris with nothing but irons...that stuff you are doing is too kool for skool!
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Model 64 is my ABSOLUTE favorite Winchester, with the model 55 a very close second.
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What was really cool once is that I got a hold of some 190 gr. Silvertips for the .303 Savage ( components)
Loaded them into the 30-30 and went hunting. Devastating!
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I agree with ingwe. Really look forward to reading your Anticosti reports. Love the pictures of deer, snow, evergreens and lever actions.
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Model 64 is my ABSOLUTE favorite Winchester, with the model 55 a very close second. You can't say that without pics.........
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I like the 250 savage, but never have hunted with it. Bought a 6.5 x 55 husky so I might sell the 1899 takedown. I followed this thread all the way through and have two stories to share.
I have a hunting buddy who worked up a .243 ackley to unbelievable long range accuracy. He took up whitetail hunting in Northern Idaho. Ended up losing one buck, harvesting another.
A farmer in Nebraska, I used to bowhunt on his land, had a pet goat that lived on the front porch. A jehovas witness came to preach on the front porch. The goat butted the "preacher" into the living room couch!
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Which one would you prefer for hunting? I have both, but this weekend the my 250 Savage is first up. The 100 grain Ballistic Tip is zeroed at 100 yards, then +.4 mils for 200, +1.1 mils for 300. Zap!
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LBK are you headed back to Anticosti this year? Yes. Nancy and I leave Sunday after next. November 16th. I am worse than a little kid. I struggle with "which" caliber gun I should bring. Right now I have packed a .308 EG. A proven gun that I made a 225 yard shot on a deer. And an 1899 250-3000. An oldtimer I have never hunted with but shoots paper great. My dilemma is I really want to take an octagon barrel .303 Savage instead of the .308. The .303 also shoots great. HELP me................ I vote for the .303 Savage! For some reason that cartridge is haunting me. I've got a boatload of brass and dies for it, Now I just hafta' find a .303 model 99 I can afford. It's perfectly normal to have reloading components for a rifle you don't own yet... right?
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LBK are you headed back to Anticosti this year? Yes. Nancy and I leave Sunday after next. November 16th. I am worse than a little kid. I struggle with "which" caliber gun I should bring. Right now I have packed a .308 EG. A proven gun that I made a 225 yard shot on a deer. And an 1899 250-3000. An oldtimer I have never hunted with but shoots paper great. My dilemma is I really want to take an octagon barrel .303 Savage instead of the .308. The .303 also shoots great. HELP me................ I vote for the .303 Savage! For some reason that cartridge is haunting me. I've got a boatload of brass and dies for it, Now I just hafta' find a .303 model 99 I can afford. It's perfectly normal to have reloading components for a rifle you don't own yet... right? Yes it is and don't EVER think other ways......................
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Great thread! All except for the part where satan showed up.
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Great thread! All except for the part where satan showed up. I think it can be summed up thusly: "bullets matter more than headstamps, except when we're talkin about the .250 savage."
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+1 on the 303. Savage. I want one too. The 99 in a .303 Savage was my Grandpa's favorite gun.
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LBK are you headed back to Anticosti this year? Yes. Nancy and I leave Sunday after next. November 16th. I am worse than a little kid. I struggle with "which" caliber gun I should bring. Right now I have packed a .308 EG. A proven gun that I made a 225 yard shot on a deer. And an 1899 250-3000. An oldtimer I have never hunted with but shoots paper great. My dilemma is I really want to take an octagon barrel .303 Savage instead of the .308. The .303 also shoots great. HELP me................ I look forward to your hunt report. Your Anticosti pictures and stories are one of the highlights of the hunting season for me. I would probably take the .303
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LBK are you headed back to Anticosti this year? Yes. Nancy and I leave Sunday after next. November 16th. I am worse than a little kid. I struggle with "which" caliber gun I should bring. Right now I have packed a .308 EG. A proven gun that I made a 225 yard shot on a deer. And an 1899 250-3000. An oldtimer I have never hunted with but shoots paper great. My dilemma is I really want to take an octagon barrel .303 Savage instead of the .308. The .303 also shoots great. HELP me................ I look forward to your hunt report. Your Anticosti pictures and stories are one of the highlights of the hunting season for me. I would probably take the .303 The change has been made. .308 EG exchanged for 1899B. 26" barrel, .303 Savage, Stith repro mounted Lyman 3X with post/no crosshair. Thanks guys for the encouragement to making the change. The 1899 250-3000 is still my second rifle.
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Man oh man, it is nice to have that kind of a problem. "Eenie, meenie, miney, moe, which 99s get to go." Best wishes for the hunt.
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Thank you. I realize I've had some luck making a collection. I wasn't "showing off". I'm old so I like old stuff.
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I love the 99s although I no longer own any. My first deer rifle was a 99E in 308 that I sold to my brother when I bought my first left hand rifle. I couldn't afford two deer rifles at the time. Last year I looked at a .300 Savage in a 99, but it wasn't to be at the time. Maybe down the road.
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Good luck. If you're a lefty you might want to give thought to a tang safety model. While I prefer the lever safety offerings, the post one million models are fine hunting rifles.
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LBK are you headed back to Anticosti this year? Yes. Nancy and I leave Sunday after next. November 16th. I am worse than a little kid. I struggle with "which" caliber gun I should bring. Right now I have packed a .308 EG. A proven gun that I made a 225 yard shot on a deer. And an 1899 250-3000. An oldtimer I have never hunted with but shoots paper great. My dilemma is I really want to take an octagon barrel .303 Savage instead of the .308. The .303 also shoots great. HELP me................ I look forward to your hunt report. Your Anticosti pictures and stories are one of the highlights of the hunting season for me. I would probably take the .303 The change has been made. .308 EG exchanged for 1899B. 26" barrel, .303 Savage, Stith repro mounted Lyman 3X with post/no crosshair. Thanks guys for the encouragement to making the change. The 1899 250-3000 is still my second rifle. Outstanding LBK! I'm already looking forward to the pics of the game you take take with those fine calibers.
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Good luck. If you're a lefty you might want to give thought to a tang safety model. While I prefer the lever safety offerings, the post one million models are fine hunting rifles. The safety location on the 99E was the main reason it went down the road. I have inquired on a couple of tang safety 99s, but nobody is turning loose right now, at least not at a price I am willing to pay. I really like the older traditional 99s, but the tang safety is reason enough to buy a newer rifle.
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I'd not worry about safety location. Chamber a round and shoot.
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I have owned both. 99's are cool looking, but when using scopes I much prefer a good fitting bolt action rifle for actually shooting.
I tried to buy a full stocked Ruger in .250 from Drew here at the campfire,but was too slow. I currently have a Cooper in .243. I got a very good deal on it so I bought it. I am happy with it so far. My biggest buck was taken with a .243, but only at 100 yards or so.
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I'd not worry about safety location. Chamber a round and shoot. Steelie, I finally got around to reloading the load you gave me last year using the Hornady 117 gr. round nose in my 250/3000. Using your suggested powder H-4831sc with the 117 RN bullet The rifle printed 3 shots into 3/4 of an inch. Works for me. Now I just hope the Hornady 117 gr. opens up at 250 savage velocity's after reading some of these posts. Thanks Scott Doc
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Not to worry about the performance/velocity, I can't find any RN's for my 250 but will someday. My Robts is modestly charged and works like a charm on game so I see no reason not to go that route with a 250/3000. Paper is easy to kill and a chronographs makes poor steaks
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