Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire A troubling part of the Eric Frein arrest.

The gun business stopped, finally, because he was told openly that what he was doing was quite likely not legal and could easily land the two of you in very hot water. It would still be going on if several people hadn't laid out to him that if he continued that it was extremely likely that someone was going to call ATF on him and you two would be receiving a knock on the door from some rather unfriendly people who would want to see a lot of things and wouldn't take "no" or any excuse for an answer.

The issue in Oregon may have been in the past, but it's very unlikely that those specific cases were the only time he made unsuitable recommendations or dealt with investments that he did not have an appropriate license to be reviewing or recommending their replacement. A very quick search shows that he never held any securities license. Therefore, every time he reviewed any financial documents with a prospective client that contained stocks, bonds, or mutual funds - including IRAs, 401ks, or 403bs - he was breaking the law. He didn't have the credentials or licenses to review those documents or to make any recommendations about changes in or replacements to those investments. Ask yourself how many times he did this, or ask him. The rules are out there for viewing and they are very clear. I'd suspect that those cases in Oregon were just the ones that had someone file a complaint, and not the only ones in which he broke the rules, knowingly, in order to receive a healthy commission check.

The constant presentation of himself as an "estate planner" (which is a very specific license and qualification, generally requiring an accounting or law background) is yet another example of misrepresentation. He was an insurance agent and worked for one of the worst insurance companies in the nation, one that has a long history of having and training agents that intentionally break insurance regulations and state and federal laws (and rewarding them for those transgressions, until they are caught). He broke those rules and was rewarded for them, and then in Oregon tried to come up with a very poor excuse and defense as to why he did it, or why he shouldn't be punished (it wasn't his fault, the other person wanted to do it, he's sick, he's had a change of heart, wanting to move, he's a good Christian, he's broke, etc.; the same excuses he's used here every time he gets caught ripping someone off).

The ethics involved are the same as when you try to justify taking a shot you shouldn't, ass-shoot a bear, then leave it to suffer all night and finally convince a friend to come out and finish it off (a possible game law violation in Washington). You do all this, and they you brag about it as some kind of Herculean feat, saying that only you and only your oddball wildcat magnum would have been capable of creating that kind of fiasco (which, perhaps, is true). Then, when called on those things, you revert right back to the same excuses (sick, broke, good Christian, etc.) as a rationale.

The drama is what your husband brings on himself and what he seems to live for. The drama is a sickness and chronic case of breaking rules whenever you can see a benefit for yourself, regardless of who or what gets hurt along the way because only you (meaning him) matter and the ends (getting what he wants) always justify any means. When caught, revert back to the "I'm sick; I'm broke; I'm just a poor, good Christian" line of defense. I'd suspect this has been the case for him for many years.

There's no drama here in my post. Those things are fact. You may not like them, but facts they are.

This thread and many others are simply attention whoring by him. Ironbender gave sound advice: he needs to get off the computer, read a book, go fishing, watch TV, do SOMETHING else rather than continue to draw attention to himself. The more attention he draws, the more likely it is that someone will call some very unwanted attention to his dealings (especially regarding the gun business he was running as the statute of limitations on that is quite long).

Sometimes, you just have to know when to put the shovel down and stop digging.

The reason thoughtful and circumspect people oppose this sort of conduct by the police