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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
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Any cartridge from the .223 to the 7mm-08 for the small rifle, and any cartridge from the 7mm-08 up to the .375 H&H for the big rifle.

Or two 7mm-08's.


John...You posted that knowing they'll be arguing on here over which two 7mm-08 rifles to choose!

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Originally Posted by catorres1
On the 700, I noticed that B&C offered a stock I like for the 700. For the range rifle, that would make it fit the Weatherby I like. However, it looks like a 243 would be the only choice, as they don't offer a 6.5 of any kind. That would be fine except if I went 243, I think I want to be able to run the longer Berger's, and no factory rifle appears to have the twist for it.

I need to run the numbers and get some advice on how a 243 running 90 grainers would do at 1k, but looking at the BC's, it does not seem optimal.

I know some folks have been running heavier Amax's successfully, but I don't want to be limited to only one bullet that would work successfully. Had that problem already and ran into it that the particular rifle simply did not like that bullet, and there were no other choices.

So I definitely want choices. I can't believe Remington doesn't make a 260 Remington rifle, other than the short light barreled model 7 cdl!


The Remington 9 twist in 243 will run all of the 105 grainers without any problems almost all of the time (AMax, VLD, Scenar, etc), so you need not worry about being stuck with one bullet for the range.

Remington is now producing a 260 full-size with an 8 twist, which would be right up your alley also.

The Remington 9 twist in 7Mag will run all the nice bullets for that caliber, and will dupe the trajectory of the smaller chamberings.

If you want factory, the Remington or Ruger are the way to fly due to twist rates. The Remington has stocks available that seem to fit your desired ergonomics.

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Dakota,

Which rifle are they offering in 260? I did not see that on their site as of yet.

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Too many variables, too many different hunting venues to generalize.

Here in LA, if I wasn't going out West and just hunted locally, it would be very hard to beat a 30-06 and a .223, both high quality, accurate rifles with appropriate glass. That combo would cover just about any type shooting/hunting we would ever do.

Boring maybe...

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Too many variables, too many different hunting venues to generalize.

Here in LA, if I wasn't going out West and just hunted locally, it would be very hard to beat a 30-06 and a .223, both high quality, accurate rifles with appropriate glass. That combo would cover just about any type shooting/hunting we would ever do.

Boring maybe...

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Not really boring, practical!

I think that one thing that makes answering questions like this difficult is that it is impossible, or very difficult, to really understand what the need is from a short post. Everyone's answer is probably correct, even if they disagree, if you take into account the specific circumstances, needs and desires of that person and their situation.

While I have not been able to point to one post here and say 'that's the way to go', hearing all the arguments from the various perspectives has helped me think about and consider a lot of things that I would otherwise not have thought of. I think I would probably have made some expensive mistakes if I had not read all these posts, which lead me to additional research etc.

So while I have not finally made a decision, I have been able to add a lot of important data points to my consideration that are helping me to formulate a course of action that will fit MY specific needs and wants.

Ultimately, I'll probably end up with 3 rifles, one of them being a 223. But that one will have to wait a bit. Still working on the other two, but mainly, it's the long range bench rifle that I don't have finally figured out.

But thanks to all for the advice and perspectives. It has been illuminating to say the least, and very helpful!

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I like 243win and 9.3x62 for two non-magnum broad brushed rifles that would cover a ton of ground. An alternative would be something along the lines of a 223 and 30-06. If hell bent for leather to shoot a magnum, maybe 223 and 300wm for two guns. My opinion, the 9.3x62 can be loaded to run on the heels of the 338wm for flat shooting at big stuff as well as on the heels of the 375HH for shooting at the largest stuff. The 243 covers most chores from varmints to mid sized game, especially in the states that currently forbid using the 223 for deer sized game.


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Yet the schittier 6x45 is legal.....

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Originally Posted by GaryVA
I like 243win and 9.3x62 for two non-magnum broad brushed rifles that would cover a ton of ground. An alternative would be something along the lines of a 223 and 30-06. If hell bent for leather to shoot a magnum, maybe 223 and 300wm for two guns. My opinion, the 9.3x62 can be loaded to run on the heels of the 338wm for flat shooting at big stuff as well as on the heels of the 375HH for shooting at the largest stuff. The 243 covers most chores from varmints to mid sized game, especially in the states that currently forbid using the 223 for deer sized game.

Good choices, got'em all. Great rounds except for the crowd that likes to shoot across canyons. We don't have canyons down here, but long shots across beanfields and down power lines are pretty common.

I just had to build a 26 Nosler, even though I have a 1/2 MOA Krieger barreled 6.5-284 and a Brux barreled 7RM that's about as accurate. Just couldn't help myself... blush

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Originally Posted by catorres1
Dakota,

Which rifle are they offering in 260? I did not see that on their site as of yet.


Well, it appears maybe they never offered them yet, or that they ran out of stock, or that they decided to lie, or that Remmy is doing whatever Remmy does not to sell product. It was supposed to be an 8-twist SPS version announced about one year ago. Here's some links:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...products_id/90809/Remington+700+SPS+260/

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...s/8987246/Re_Anybody_seen_a_700_SPS_260_


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Buds had them in stock a few weeks ago. Must be popular.


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Something else just came to mind.......
Gary Sitton used to build rifles in pairs. I recall one pair was a 280AI and the second a 338AI.
Another had the 35 Whelan Improved hut I don't recall what the smaller caliber choice was.
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7mm-08 for the win! Plenty of power for any of the hunting you describe, catorres1, and flatter shooting than a 30-06 beyond 1000yds with the right bullets. I know you want complicated answers, but truthfully, the answers are really simple, given today's bullets and the long, effective record of a medium 7 on huge animals.


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Originally Posted by catorres1
So I am changing up my rifle battery and wanted to get some advice. At the moment, I am fairly open minded, though I do have some specific requirements.

I am looking at a two rifle set...


Go with a 24 volt system. I've heard good things about Varta.


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Has anyone brought up the 338 Lapua for long range bench gun? Or is that too much gun?


All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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Originally Posted by Dre
Has anyone brought up the 338 Lapua for long range bench gun? Or is that too much gun?


Most benches are shot at close range so you don't need a .338 Lapua for that.


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Wonder how the shoulder would be after shooting a bench competition round with a 338 Lapua.... I know for a fact I would start to flinch--

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If you are starting from scratch, and willing to trade what you have to start over, and can go relatively high dollar, one way to go would be a Blaser R8 with two barrels. I'd probably go 243 and 300 Win mag too as mentioned.

With the same scope you'll have pretty much an identical set-up weight-wise and ergo's going from one to the other. And you'll have a quality rig

I did this myself including 243, 30/06, and 375 barrels albeit each with different scopes
matched to my perceived use for each.


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by GaryVA
I like 243win and 9.3x62 for two non-magnum broad brushed rifles that would cover a ton of ground. An alternative would be something along the lines of a 223 and 30-06. If hell bent for leather to shoot a magnum, maybe 223 and 300wm for two guns. My opinion, the 9.3x62 can be loaded to run on the heels of the 338wm for flat shooting at big stuff as well as on the heels of the 375HH for shooting at the largest stuff. The 243 covers most chores from varmints to mid sized game, especially in the states that currently forbid using the 223 for deer sized game.

Good choices, got'em all. Great rounds except for the crowd that likes to shoot across canyons. We don't have canyons down here, but long shots across beanfields and down power lines are pretty common.

I just had to build a 26 Nosler, even though I have a 1/2 MOA Krieger barreled 6.5-284 and a Brux barreled 7RM that's about as accurate. Just couldn't help myself... blush

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I had more than a two gun battery when I was in High School and that was many moons ago... smile

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I'm getting to this party late but my vote is for a 250 savage and a 358 norma magnum grin

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thought I saw the OP wants a 1000 yard gun.


All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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