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Good deal�relay congrats from Alaska to the young man!
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Congrats on a memory that neither you, nor he, will ever forget. 
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Will do, he really surprised me this year. Last year I could not get him to practice enough to be proficient. So, he did not get to hunt. This year, he was all for it and shot every time I asked him to. He was mad that I gutted it for him....
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That's fun! I'm glad to hear it worked out, and that your son has the desire for more now!!
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Great news. Hornady bullets rock. I was going to comment on the earlier posts saying hornady wanted a 2800 fps impact speed that's not really what they list in their manuals. For some reason they like to list suggested muzzle velocities. I guess they're not keen on their bullets coming out of super mags at 3700 fps.
For the future I'd like to suggest as others have....get some sst's...they definately open big time for some of the kids I've loaded lighter rounds for.
I'm not sure I'd count on great expansion of an interlock EVERY time under 1800. Especially if it slips between the ribs. Another great choice might be the 100 or 110 accubonds that are designed for the slower speeds of the 6.8.
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Well, it worked.
For the second time ever I heard a bullet hit, and it hit hard. The deer was my sons first a 117 pound 3 point. Slight quartering away and entered just behind the diahpram and exited forward through the lungs behind the shoulder. There was no gaping exit wound but the internal damage was impressive. The blood trail was easy for a 10 yr old to follow across a field and one we could see 20ft ahead. He ran 40yrds. The shot was 110 yards.
Thanks for all the advice!
Ryan Congrats Ryan, to both your son, and to the proud DAD... I've loaded up 270 loads for a friend of my son and a couple of his buddies, who borrow a pair of my 270s and hunt with Seafire Jr and I each fall...Using SR 4759 and 4198 for powder...with MVs in the range you were using...charges of 20 to 25 grains of SR 4759.... Loads that have been successful, with that charge have been 130 grain Ballistic Tips...but also 110 grain Sierras, along with 90 grain HPs from both Speer and Sierra, using charges of 20 to 22.5 grains of SR 4759 when the boys were younger... Deer around here are antelope sized for the most part and weight in the range you speak of, your son taking.. and we hunt in a wooded area close by, that can be described as 30/30 ranges... "varmint bullets" open up well at these type of ranges and speeds being spoke of... even myself, I've taken a couple of good sized Blacktails, 175 lbs and 210 lbs over the last few years, out of a 7 x 57 in a Model 70 Featherweight... The loads were 115 grain Speer HPs, behind a charge of 28 grains of SR 4759.. I use this ammo when I hunt with the boys in our wooded area where the 30/30 ranges apply... The load has the same POI at 100 yds as my "open country" load of 44 grains of IMR 4895 and a 140 grain Ballistic Tip... both deer taken by me with that load, were shot right thru the heart, at 100 yds or less...which wasn't really that hard, since the SR 4759 loads have almost ZERO recoil.. especially to an adult.. A handicapped 10 yr old, son of one of the women in the "office" of my son's school, wanted to "hunt with Grandpa", on Grandpa's Property... Grandpa had a stroke a year or so before, so in reality we were talking 50 to 75 yds.. and more like shooting it off of Grandpa's Porch, with then using that for a 'deer blind'... Loaded up the young man a 110 grain RN Soft Point, out of a 30/30 that belonged to Grandpa...fueled by 10 grains of Unique.. definitely ZERO kick...the handicapped 10 yr old managed to drop a nice doe at about 50 yds... he, Grandpa and single mom were all so proud .....
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Sea fire you are "da man"! Not just your experience w/light loads that you share here but helping all the youngsters get going.
Congratulations to EVERYONE helping kids get started!
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Well, it worked.
For the second time ever I heard a bullet hit, and it hit hard. The deer was my sons first a 117 pound 3 point. Slight quartering away and entered just behind the diahpram and exited forward through the lungs behind the shoulder. There was no gaping exit wound but the internal damage was impressive. The blood trail was easy for a 10 yr old to follow across a field and one we could see 20ft ahead. He ran 40yrds. The shot was 110 yards.
Thanks for all the advice!
Ryan Congrats Ryan, to both your son, and to the proud DAD... I've loaded up 270 loads for a friend of my son and a couple of his buddies, who borrow a pair of my 270s and hunt with Seafire Jr and I each fall...Using SR 4759 and 4198 for powder...with MVs in the range you were using...charges of 20 to 25 grains of SR 4759.... Its funny you mention 4198...... It was my daughters turn friday and her first buck, also a 3 pt took a 100 grain .243 sierra at 100 yards being pushed by 27 grains of IMR 4198 through the lungs and stumbled 10 yards to his end...
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Congrats Ryan, to both your son, and to the proud DAD...
I've loaded up 270 loads for a friend of my son and a couple of his buddies, who borrow a pair of my 270s and hunt with Seafire Jr and I each fall...Using SR 4759 and 4198 for powder...with MVs in the range you were using...charges of 20 to 25 grains of SR 4759....
Loads that have been successful, with that charge have been 130 grain Ballistic Tips...but also 110 grain Sierras, along with 90 grain HPs from both Speer and Sierra, using charges of 20 to 22.5 grains of SR 4759 when the boys were younger...
Deer around here are antelope sized for the most part and weight in the range you speak of, your son taking.. and we hunt in a wooded area close by, that can be described as 30/30 ranges...
"varmint bullets" open up well at these type of ranges and speeds being spoke of...
even myself, I've taken a couple of good sized Blacktails, 175 lbs and 210 lbs over the last few years, out of a 7 x 57 in a Model 70 Featherweight...
The loads were 115 grain Speer HPs, behind a charge of 28 grains of SR 4759.. I use this ammo when I hunt with the boys in our wooded area where the 30/30 ranges apply...
The load has the same POI at 100 yds as my "open country"
load of 44 grains of IMR 4895 and a 140 grain Ballistic Tip...
both deer taken by me with that load, were shot right thru the heart, at 100 yds or less...which wasn't really that hard, since the SR 4759 loads have almost ZERO recoil.. especially to an adult..
A handicapped 10 yr old, son of one of the women in the "office" of my son's school, wanted to "hunt with Grandpa", on Grandpa's Property... Grandpa had a stroke a year or so before, so in reality we were talking 50 to 75 yds.. and more like shooting it off of Grandpa's Porch, with then using that for a 'deer blind'...
Loaded up the young man a 110 grain RN Soft Point, out of a 30/30 that belonged to Grandpa...fueled by 10 grains of Unique..
definitely ZERO kick...the handicapped 10 yr old managed to drop a nice doe at about 50 yds... he, Grandpa and single mom were all so proud .....
Great post John.
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