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Does your state require teachers to be licensed and certified to teach kids? Does that apply only to public schools or to private schools as well?
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In Florida, they are pretty strict about licenses, degrees and certifications. For public and private schools.
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your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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I'm almost certain Texas doesn't require private school teachers to be certified.
But that's good to know about Florida.
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It's pretty strict in Colorado.
You essentially need a 4 year degree plus another year of teacher school to get licensed, plus there is an annual continuing education requirement. Half the teachers in my daughters middle school have masters degrees, and at least one has his doctorate.
You actually need a 4 year degree just to home school in this state.
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After somebody spends 4 years or more learning their specialty in college combined with hands on application along the way and afterwards, they're pretty much qualified to perform in their specialty area, and continue to develop their skills as they work. Some stupid certification exam administered by the State certainly doesn't make them 'better' at what they do...it just gives the government more control and revenue in the forms of licenses and fees.
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Does your state require teachers to be licensed and certified to teach kids? Does that apply only to public schools or to private schools as well?
You do in NC and don't even get me started on what a BS bureaucratic dog and pony show the licensing is in this state. It is strictly a money and government make work program for the education "professionals"
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You actually need a 4 year degree just to home school in this state. That's crazy.
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A person can be an expert in a field but not be able to teach it. Often times they can't pass on their knowledge in a manner that the students can absorb. Certified teachers have expertise in how to teach what they know. (Needless to say, not all of them really have the expertise that they were trained to have. )
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You do in NC and don't even get me started on what a BS bureaucratic dog and pony show the licensing is in this state.
It is strictly a money and government make work program for the education "professionals"
You can plug any number of govt institutions into that proclamation.
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You need a cert in Pa in public schools. Its not required in private schools, pretty sure anyway.
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You actually need a 4 year degree just to home school in this state. That's crazy. Yep, you can thank the teachers unions for the little diddy.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Wonder how many home school "teachers" can teach calculus?
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In Florida, they are pretty strict about licenses, degrees and certifications. For public and private schools. Even for substitutes at schools for delinquent youth? TRH? help us out here.
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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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After somebody spends 4 years or more learning their specialty in college combined with hands on application along the way and afterwards, they're pretty much qualified to perform in their specialty area, and continue to develop their skills as they work. Some stupid certification exam administered by the State certainly doesn't make them 'better' at what they do...it just gives the government more control and revenue in the forms of licenses and fees. I have a good friend who has a B.S. in Spanish,a Master Degree in English and a Law Degree. He had to go back to college for another year to take courses to get a "Teaching Certificate".
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A person can be an expert in a field but not be able to teach it. Often times they can't pass on their knowledge in a manner that the students can absorb. Certified teachers have expertise in how to teach what they know. (Needless to say, not all of them really have the expertise that they were trained to have. ) To add to your excellent post, any good teacher is forever a good student, and most will probably learn more in their first couple of years teaching than they learned in formal 'education' schooling.
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Well I am Certified to teach people to fly singe and multi engine airplanes , helicopters, instruments in both airplanes and helicopters and unlike teachers in the schools public or private, the FAA will have a serious chat with me if I have a failure rate of more that two out of ten check rides, same for written exams! Oh and if a student while a student pilot has an accident or breaks an FAR its not him or her the FAA goes after its the Flight Instructor that has his or her signature in his logbook and student pilot certificate, The FAA dose not play games with it or let things slide either, like public school where a kid can go 12 years graduate and be not able to read or even do simple math, I would be accountable were they never are!
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Wonder how many home school "teachers" can teach calculus? Wonder how many public school teachers can teach calculus? If they really care about their students, the answer should be the same for both... Only the people qualified will try to teach it. And if they're not qualified to teach it they'll find someone who is, which is easy enough to do in either setting.
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